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China6331 Posts
Translated from Chinese by wooyeon: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=378527
Korean original: http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000044872&date=20130901&page=2 (personal reflection)
http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000044875&date=20130901&page=2 (story update)
UPDATE: DES' story about the entire transfer thing:
On 20th August, INnoVation submit his application into the KeSPA posting and required a salary of 100 million Won/year. In foreign teams players can keep their prize money winnings, but in KeSPA teams they can't, the teams will have a share, so he thinks that amount of salary is geniune.
Then news came that KeSPA teams are not in good shape, he realized that no team will be able to match his offer. Back in June when STX was rumored to be disbanding, a lot of teams were already approaching him, including some KeSPA teams. And Acer is among the most active teams, has been actively in touch with STX since July.
On 21st August, before departing to WCS S2 Finals, INnoVation already signed on the KeSPA posting application. Then Coach Kim had a talk with him, told him that judging from various scenarios, Acer might be able to take him during his time in Germany, but he can't sign with them, not until the posting is complete.
Just as Coach Kim predicted, Acer's manager was with INnoVation the entire time in Germany.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YcTo3tn.jpg)
The Acer manager explained that they need to finalized their roster in preparation of GSTL, so it's better this gets settled down asap. After a lot of talks and negotiations INnoVation gave the nod.
But Acer was too eager with the announcement, it would be perfectly fine if they announce it after the posting, but the early news caught the Korean side off guard and everything breaks loose. Not only INnoVation's "dual contract" violates the Korean contract law, Acer contacting the player individually without the team's consent is also a violation to the general rule in the scene. STX contacted Acer immediately but no calls were answered. It was a journalist who was in Germany that contacted Acer and informed them about this, then Acer delayed their annoucement till 1st September.
After INnoVation returned to Korea he immediately apologized, in the end KeSPA gave the greenlight considering the player's will.
INnoVation's personal reflections:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1SlHcj5.jpg)
INnoVation has joined Acer. Even both parties has settled down agreements very early in the day, since his contract didn't end until 31st August, Acer postponed the announcement till 1st Septemeber. INnoVation is the first KeSPA player who won an premier individual tournament to join a foreign team.
But the process isn't without any obstacle. Acer initially thought INnoVation's contract ends on 25th August, so they spread the word way too early. But INnoVation didn't enter the KeSPA posting/drafting process then, and his contract with SouL is still valid, which results in a awkward situation.
"First of all, I want to say sorry. I told the manager of Acer, I think it's better for me to join a foreign team, but the entire thing isn't sorted out very well. I told KeSPA that I will attend the posting, and my contract with STX didn't end, but I act too carelessly, I feel very sorry about this."
He didn't realize that Acer will misread his contract ending time. At least everything went well, but these twists gave him a lesson, to think more before acting in the future.
But why INnoVation decides to join Acer just before the posting? During his times at STX, he realized under what kind of environment he could get better results. STX used to run on strict training schedules, INnoVation had good skills back then but had no good results. Then the team switched to a more free training environment, INnoVation's skill and results sky rocketed.
"It's quite a coincidence but I feel it's better for me to achieve good results under a free training environment. KeSPA teams are sponsor teams, they can't keep that kind of freedom. It's more that having a better environment rather than money that makes me this decision."
Though KeSPA teams offer better salary, INnoVation still hopes he can fulfull fans' expectations as soon as possible, he thinks a much more familiar training environment is more important. This is the biggest reason he chose a foreign team.
And being able to attend foreign tournaments freely is also attracting him.
But his transfer gains so much heat makes him feel sorry, "I will work harder for my success after joining a foreign team."
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awesome stuff thanks for the translation!
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Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
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Thanks for the translation. The training environment makes sense for why he wanted a foreign team.
Excited to see him play under the Acer team name.
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On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
A lot of players feel like this. I remember when SC2 first started up, ST had a really lax and free practice schedule, because the coach (ex-WMF coach) felt that too strenuous a schedule would actually interfere with the players' results, and he didn't want to run a sweatshop. The players who want to practice more strictly can practice more strictly, the ones who didn't could take it at a slower pace. Different strokes and all.
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It's impossible to compare training regimes during a transitional period.
Yes, the strict training regime in BW made a lot of people unhappy (to say the least), and almost any player will say they prefer a more relaxed training. But in the end, actual results made a very brutal point - there was no gain without pain. There was simply no other way, no alternative method that worked better for different type of a player.
Some players being rejuvenated at the start of their SC2 careers (whether in 2010 or after the Kespa switch) likely has more to do with the actual transition than the relaxed training. Some players feel invigorated and motivated by the fresh start, and perhaps adapt to the game better initially. Others just didn't enjoy the game as much, got lazier, and declined very quickly no matter the training schedule.
Point being, it's much more likely that switching to a new game is the key factor for a drastic improvement (or decline in other players), rather than switching to a more relaxed training schedule.
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Hopefully that will show people, both those wanting to become a pro and those complaining about non-Korean pros, that a very strict training regime is not necesarily a good thing.
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Well, we already know some players, even korean one, can strive more in a more relaxed practice regime.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.
An example of a player working better when free lancing his own laid back practice is violet, in the strict training of team MVP he was an awful zerg that lucked into code S by ending up in an up and downs group with kyrix and thewind. When he went solo and chilled in Texas he became one of the best and consistent zergs in the world. Some people just benefit from other training set ups.
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I think he is correct, sc2 is not a game you can grind, it must balanced well with other lifestyles.
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Perhaps strict training environments are good for any player needing to improve their skills to a top-tier pro level, and after that, once you are good enough to be competitive internationally with other top pros, then more or less freedom of training should be adopted depending on the individual's personality/affinities so they can be able to continue to improve (instead of stagnate and not reach their full potential).
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I wonder which Kespa team (if anybody) would have picked up Innovation, had he not decide to go with Acer
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TLADT24920 Posts
On September 01 2013 04:39 Jinky wrote:
Perhaps strict training environments are good for any player needing to improve their skills to a top-tier pro level, and after that, once you are good enough to be competitive internationally with other top pros, then more or less freedom of training should be adopted depending on the individual's personality/affinities so they can be able to continue to improve (instead of stagnate and not reach their full potential).
I dunno if I agree with this. I think it's highly dependent on the game that you are playing. SCII doesn't require as much practice as BW did due to the mechanical requirements difference so image training after getting some good mechanics done can be as useful as actual training.
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On September 01 2013 04:36 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back. An example of a player working better when free lancing his own laid back practice is violet, in the strict training of team MVP he was an awful zerg that lucked into code S by ending up in an up and downs group with kyrix and thewind. When he went solo and chilled in Texas he became one of the best and consistent zergs in the world. Some people just benefit from other training set ups.
Polt is another big example. He got really good since coming to America.
Taeja and HerO as well to some extent, or at least the same in form.
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@Zenbrez KTRolster? imagine Flash and Innovation on a team together :D or LGIM bolster an already impressive lineup :D
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Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on.
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So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good
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On September 01 2013 04:52 Lorch wrote:
Oh god he thinks free training schedule is the source of his results, well hf sucking from now on.
Yes, you obviously know him better than he knows himself. :D
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EPT
