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INnoVation's reflection on joining Acer - Page 4

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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
September 01 2013 00:39 GMT
#61
As expected pretty dirty work done by Acer but happy that Innovation found a home that he's satisfied with.
The curse is real
mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
September 01 2013 00:44 GMT
#62
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
September 01 2013 00:47 GMT
#63
On September 01 2013 09:44 mostwanted wrote:
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much



Axiom house in Korea.
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mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
September 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#64
On September 01 2013 09:47 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 09:44 mostwanted wrote:
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much



Axiom house in Korea.


Wait a minute,
I thought MMA is staying in Acer house in Germany? Thus INnoVation would stay with MMA in Germany too?
Or they both went to KR
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 00:53:17
September 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#65
MMA goes back and forth because he plays in GSTL and WCS EU. If INnoVation stays in WCS KR there is no reason for him to go to Germany unless he is preparing to play in a foreign tournament and is trying to get acclimated or something to the time zone.
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
September 01 2013 01:00 GMT
#66
Hey this means Innovation can stream freely now, right? :D
FetusThrower
Profile Joined August 2013
United States50 Posts
September 01 2013 02:59 GMT
#67
On September 01 2013 04:08 Zealos wrote:
Interesting that he feels like that strict Korean training regime held him back.

It's no surprise to me, I think when he has to do things when he doesn't feel up for it causes a lot of stress and failure. Removing that stress and the worry of expectations/requirements probably will help him when he does practice. Being relaxed when you're trying to spend almost all your free time on a video game is so important, especially when it's your livelihood like these players.
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FetusThrower
Profile Joined August 2013
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 03:01:05
September 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#68
On September 01 2013 10:00 Kommander wrote:
Hey this means Innovation can stream freely now, right? :D

I don't remember seeing any Acer streams in the past 4 months ish, but it's highly probable that they can. I don't think he would unless he wanted the extra money though.
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Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
September 01 2013 03:03 GMT
#69
But will he stream??
Inno pls...
mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
September 01 2013 03:05 GMT
#70
I thought I read somewhere that STX coach said he let INnoVation go with his own pace
sort of implying that INnoVation was free from schedule
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 01 2013 03:36 GMT
#71
On September 01 2013 09:35 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 06:50 Lonyo wrote:
On September 01 2013 04:56 WigglingSquid wrote:
I understand that his salary with Acer is lower than it was with STX, then? Or just lower than the offers from other KeSPA teams? Well, that's kind of surprising to me.

He wanted a salary of $90k USD if he was going to sign for a Kespa team because he wouldn't get much of his prize money winnings.
He joined Acer almost certainly for a lower salary on the basis he will get to keep more prize money, as foreign teams seem to more typically let players keep winnings.

His assumption is that he will get enough prize money to make up the difference between Acer and Kespa salary, but obviously it requires him to perform well.

No SC2 player should make 90k USD salary right now. It would be stupid to do so, and thus I feel negative vibes towards this whole issue.
I also think that his prize earnings won't make up for much of anything.

Just my personal, individual opinion.


What? Innovation already won $70K+ in prize money this year with season 3 and blizzcon still to go. Not to mentioned that he carried STX to a PL title. How is he not worth $90K assuming he has to share his prize money with the team?

If he can keep his form up and goes to more foreign events due to being of Acer, he would make a lot more. And I am sure Flash, Rain etc are probably a lot above the $90K range.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 01 2013 04:28 GMT
#72
I can see how you definitely get better at something when the practice is fun compared to practice feeling like something you are forced to do. Its like when you put pressure on yourself and cram for a week for something only to completely bomb because you were focused to hard on it.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
September 01 2013 04:37 GMT
#73
Sigh, why does everybody always need to add the it's not about money sentence? Obviously as a high achieving player and would make more in a team that allows him to keep his prize monies. Furthermore that's also a greater incentive to win more!

Honestly it's good for him if he really does better without strict training schedules, all the best to him with Acer.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
September 01 2013 07:52 GMT
#74
The answers took me by surprise. I thought Innovation would have joined Acer with them giving him a six figure salary a year. It's good to see him have results with a laxer training regime so he won't supposedly decline in skill when joining a foreign team.
Trius
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine273 Posts
September 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#75
Will we see him at Dreamhack?
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
September 01 2013 11:41 GMT
#76
I thought Kespa gave their players bonuses for doing well turns out they take their prize money instead.
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
September 01 2013 13:55 GMT
#77
Well this is pretty much a complete turnaround from the speculation topic. Speculation "they must have given him a lot of money, but his practice regime will be bad, and his teammates will be bad."

Innovation interview: "The salary is lower, but the practice regime will be better for me, and it is a good team. That's why I chose the team."

On September 01 2013 04:52 Nerchio wrote:
So now I am waiting for people to tell me that playing all day long is good


Yes, Nerchio, if you ever want to win a Dreamhack or a Homestory cup, clearly you must practice at least 11 hours a day!

-----


Actually, this reminds me of an interview with [ROOT]Vibe where he talked about how he was practicing hours each day with little results, then got distracted by some other game (World of Tanks or something) didn't play SC2 at all, and when he came back is when he suddenly started achieving much more success (winning WCS America, coming second place in WCS NA, etc).
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
September 01 2013 14:04 GMT
#78
On September 01 2013 09:52 mostwanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 09:47 Aeromi wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:44 mostwanted wrote:
Question!!!
where does INnoVation live?
I am afraid if he trains oversea, he won't have connection to KR ladder much



Axiom house in Korea.


Wait a minute,
I thought MMA is staying in Acer house in Germany? Thus INnoVation would stay with MMA in Germany too?
Or they both went to KR

It wouldn't make any sense for Innovation to go to Germany since he plays on WCS KR.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 01 2013 14:09 GMT
#79
I don't think he will _not_ slump, sadly
The heart's eternal vow
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
September 01 2013 14:15 GMT
#80
I hope not... WE NEED A banjo !
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