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TL's Nazgul and GomTV's Mr Chae on WCS - Page 3

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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#41
want nazgul's jacket in the store plz
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Kreggar
Profile Joined September 2011
United States83 Posts
August 21 2013 21:00 GMT
#42
Good interviews, and good interesting answers from Nazgul & Mr. Chae. ThankSlasher
StarCraft is the hardest, most beautiful game in the world.
Osiccor
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada128 Posts
August 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#43
Lost 2 big maps? This is Dota not SC2...
Bongy
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark151 Posts
August 21 2013 21:14 GMT
#44
Totally agree with WCS taking prestige/fun away from the GSL/OSL, I personally don't follow WCS Korea as avidly as I did when all the best participated in it.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
August 21 2013 21:16 GMT
#45
On August 22 2013 06:14 Bongy wrote:
Totally agree with WCS taking prestige/fun away from the GSL/OSL, I personally don't follow WCS Korea as avidly as I did when all the best participated in it.

Not only in KR, they made all tournament (DH,MLG,...) worse.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Scareb
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
August 21 2013 21:19 GMT
#46
On August 22 2013 05:38 Noocta wrote:
Blizzard is a multi thousand employees firm on multiple continents with a classic hierarchy.
Valve is a 200/300 ish size firm running a horizontal hierarchy system in a single office.

And people expect them to work the same ?
Do someone here have a single idea how management works ?


If a company has a good management, it should work both ways. That's why you have head of departments etc. Of course it's harder to manage 4.700 employees then 400 but on the other hand, the people responsible for Diablo 3 have nothing to do with the people working for the eSports department.

Good interviews. Hope eSports keeps growing from year to year as it did the last three years!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 21:24:10
August 21 2013 21:23 GMT
#47
On August 22 2013 05:30 Boucot wrote:
Mr Chae is awesome.

I know I say this about every Korean they interview, but his English is really, really good. It seemed like he could articulate his complex opinions somewhat comfortably.

I don't even know why I focus so much on their language skills, but I think that it's because my own language skills aren't very solid.

On August 22 2013 05:54 ComaDose wrote:
want nazgul's jacket in the store plz


Same.
kiss kiss fall in love
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
August 21 2013 21:30 GMT
#48
Blizzard needs some reality check, and it better come fast. Blizzard decided to screw-up at the worst possible time while LoL/Dota2 are rising in popularity. It's too late to change what we have left for WCS 2013, but the changes for 2014 need to be announced ASAP. Although I don't believe that the right format alone would bring HotS popularity back to WoL level until Legacy of the Void is released, it would be able to stop the bleeding. To be honest, after seeing what Blizzard has done with WCS, I doubt we have anything good in store for 2014.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
August 21 2013 21:41 GMT
#49
ti3 was a great tournament but if I could pick straight up a ti3 or a WCS for sc2 I would pick WCS without a moment of hesitation. An annual tournament where about half the price poll goes to a single team does in no way shape or form support a scene. Sure Valve also does other things to help teams with in game stuff and shirts but how does that help smaller teams or upcoming teams?

I think it's incredibly silly to compare a year long season format with almost a dozen live events to a single once a year tournament, imo Blizzard's only fault so far is trying to do to much to quickly but the potential of WCS is astronomically bigger then that if TI imo.

I am not trying to say that Blizzard doesn't deserve some criticism but I am personally more critical of Valve and Riot then I am of Blizzard. The size of their streams have NOTHING to do with how "amazingly" they promote esports, I would also argue that simply because more ppl watch one thing over another does no inherently mean it's better. If that was the case why aren't we all just watching football/soccer right now?
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#50
Love that TL jacket =)
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 22:07:53
August 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#51
Great interviews, thanks Slasher And yeah, TL jackets next please!
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KatuStarcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 21 2013 22:16 GMT
#52
since when is Slasher a crack addict? I'd suggest some good hearty soups man.
Video games and whiskey.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 21 2013 22:24 GMT
#53
On August 22 2013 06:19 Scareb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:38 Noocta wrote:
Blizzard is a multi thousand employees firm on multiple continents with a classic hierarchy.
Valve is a 200/300 ish size firm running a horizontal hierarchy system in a single office.

And people expect them to work the same ?
Do someone here have a single idea how management works ?


If a company has a good management, it should work both ways. That's why you have head of departments etc. Of course it's harder to manage 4.700 employees then 400 but on the other hand, the people responsible for Diablo 3 have nothing to do with the people working for the eSports department.

Good interviews. Hope eSports keeps growing from year to year as it did the last three years!


Well, to be honest, I feel like Blizzard is having trouble making their games as good as before because their Lead Designer / Developers aren't as good as before.
And with how their company work, if you don't have a good lead, shit start to stockpile.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Garfailed
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
August 21 2013 22:29 GMT
#54
Is that a new liquid hoodie? I must have it
Korgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7 Posts
August 21 2013 22:38 GMT
#55
On August 22 2013 04:59 Plexa wrote:
That Nazgul jacket.



Exactly I want one much better color scheme than the one for sale i would buy that in a heartbeat.
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his" - Gen. George Patton
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
August 21 2013 22:47 GMT
#56
On August 22 2013 06:41 Krogan wrote:
I would also argue that simply because more ppl watch one thing over another does no inherently mean it's better. If that was the case why aren't we all just watching football/soccer right now?


This is a very true and important statement. There seems to be an unstated assumption here that because SC2 is less popular than LoL or DotA2 in viewership, this MUST mean that this is because Blizzard is screwing something up. It seems much more likely to me that LoL and DotA2 are simply more popular games than SC2 is. And so what if they are? Last I checked, soccer was the most popular sport in the world, but there are plenty of huge fans of other sports that couldn't care less about soccer and plenty of successful leagues for sports much less popular worldwide than soccer. I don't see basketball or hockey fans insisting that their sports are only losing out to soccer or American football in viewership because the structure of the NBA or NHL is somehow inferior.

If you listen to the two interviews in the OP, they criticize Blizzard but don't have any suggestions on what should be changed except Mr. Chae's suggestion of letting organizers run tournaments as they see fit and then having a separate annual Blizzcon event. But... that's exactly what was in place in 2012, and it's not like SC2 was the #1 dominant e-sport then either. That's the year his own company, GOMTV, gave us only five SC2 tournaments the entire year, instead of nine in 2011 (counting the ST and WC).
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
August 21 2013 22:51 GMT
#57
On August 22 2013 03:56 Condor Hero wrote:
love the interviews

gamespot video player is ghetto, fix plz



Works fine for me
duckTemplar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States200 Posts
August 21 2013 22:51 GMT
#58
Nazgul has a sick TL jacket...
The first word Kerrigan said to Raynor was "...You Pig!", to Raynor's response "What? ... oh you're a psychic"
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
August 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#59
On August 22 2013 07:47 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:41 Krogan wrote:
I would also argue that simply because more ppl watch one thing over another does no inherently mean it's better. If that was the case why aren't we all just watching football/soccer right now?


This is a very true and important statement. There seems to be an unstated assumption here that because SC2 is less popular than LoL or DotA2 in viewership, this MUST mean that this is because Blizzard is screwing something up. It seems much more likely to me that LoL and DotA2 are simply more popular games than SC2 is. And so what if they are? Last I checked, soccer was the most popular sport in the world, but there are plenty of huge fans of other sports that couldn't care less about soccer and plenty of successful leagues for sports much less popular worldwide than soccer. I don't see basketball or hockey fans insisting that their sports are only losing out to soccer or American football in viewership because the structure of the NBA or NHL is somehow inferior.

If you listen to the two interviews in the OP, they criticize Blizzard but don't have any suggestions on what should be changed except Mr. Chae's suggestion of letting organizers run tournaments as they see fit and then having a separate annual Blizzcon event. But... that's exactly what was in place in 2012, and it's not like SC2 was the #1 dominant e-sport then either. That's the year his own company, GOMTV, gave us only five SC2 tournaments the entire year, instead of nine in 2011 (counting the ST and WC).


my interpretation of what mr chae was saying is that he feels blizzard should make wcs more like the TI3. as in allow tournament organizers the autonomy that they had in 2012, however incorporate the wcs point system within all those tournaments. then id assume like once a year all the points are tallied and the players are invited to the blizzcon wcs global final parade of doom destiny power saiyan

im not sure it was hard to understand exactly what his train of thought was.

as for nazguls interview, i want the jacket! but i sort of feel like he was skirting around saying blizzard was incompetent, at least thats what i got from his face and the fact the video had something edited from it.

my interpretations at least.
Forever ZeNEX.
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
August 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#60
On August 22 2013 04:59 Plexa wrote:
That Nazgul jacket.

Where can i get ? :3
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