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TL's Nazgul and GomTV's Mr Chae on WCS

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Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
August 21 2013 17:23 GMT
#1
I conducted two interviews at Valve's The International with Team Liquid Owner Nazgul and GomTV's Mr Chae regarding their thoughts on the current status of WCS, and how Blizzard is handling the league. Also some comparisons to TI3 (since that's the event I was at), and some thoughts on StarCraft as a whole right now. First half of each interview is focused on Dota, while the second half is on SC2.

Mr Chae: "Blizzard is very supportive of Esports...but I think their support is not effective"



Nazgul:


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URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
August 21 2013 17:26 GMT
#2
I really liked the Nazgul interview
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 21 2013 17:27 GMT
#3
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 21 2013 17:40 GMT
#4
On August 22 2013 02:27 xsnac wrote:
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews


since people have been talking about those interviews everywhere, the chance should be insanely high.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 21 2013 17:41 GMT
#5
These are awesome! Thanks for sharing.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
August 21 2013 17:44 GMT
#6
Mr.Chae <3
What did he at TI3?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 21 2013 17:46 GMT
#7
On August 22 2013 02:44 Dingodile wrote:
Mr.Chae <3
What did he at TI3?


GomTV is getting (has gotten) into DotA2 as well.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 21 2013 17:47 GMT
#8
On August 22 2013 02:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 02:44 Dingodile wrote:
Mr.Chae <3
What did he at TI3?


GomTV is getting (has gotten) into DotA2 as well.

GomTV is in the business of broadcasting games that are good and people like.
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jackdr
Profile Joined June 2012
Philippines85 Posts
August 21 2013 18:05 GMT
#9
both these guys really had juicy stuff to say in these interviews.

Nazgul from the Team/Player/Management side and Mr. Chae from the Organizer side. Really nice to hear all those stuff, both positive and negative comments, we need 'em all!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 18:08:46
August 21 2013 18:05 GMT
#10
Mr. Chae: Blizzard spends a lot money, but it isn't effective.

What a surprise.

These guys were openly critical of Blizzard despite their positions. Hopefully Blizzard will listen.
URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
August 21 2013 18:11 GMT
#11
On August 22 2013 02:27 xsnac wrote:
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews

Yeah thats a really good point
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 18:30:45
August 21 2013 18:30 GMT
#12
I really like that Chae brought up the lack of leagues in Korea. 1 league isn't enough for all the progamers over there. More leagues in Korea = less Koreans abroad in WCS AM/EU.
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JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
August 21 2013 18:35 GMT
#13
+ Show Spoiler +
shitty player, slow 720p, can't track to the mid part of the video


I liked the nazgul one better
I'd be proud to be 7-8th on TI
do you guys think he might wanna try and hire Fear? lol
TeflonArena
Profile Joined August 2013
Finland18 Posts
August 21 2013 18:48 GMT
#14
Fingers crossed that Blizzard actually reacts. Good thing to finally see the higher-ups commenting on Blizzard's effectiveness.
"Enemy team leads 21 - 5? We got this." - derafrhe
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 21 2013 18:56 GMT
#15
love the interviews

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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 21 2013 19:01 GMT
#16
On August 22 2013 02:27 xsnac wrote:
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews

I don't think it's fair to call that of Blizzard. They care a lot but for whatever reason, they manage to Charlie Brown everything. I liken them more to a kindly, out of touch grandfather -.-.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 21 2013 19:03 GMT
#17
On August 22 2013 02:27 xsnac wrote:
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews



Know why Valve doesn't release HL3? Because the moment they do, people are going to shit all over them for the smallest, insignificant things. That's exactly what's happened to Blizz.
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
August 21 2013 19:08 GMT
#18
On August 22 2013 04:01 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 02:27 xsnac wrote:
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews

I don't think it's fair to call that of Blizzard. They care a lot but for whatever reason, they manage to Charlie Brown everything. I liken them more to a kindly, out of touch grandfather -.-.


LOL. That Charlie Brown characterization is so apt its down right scary.

Excellent interviews.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
August 21 2013 19:26 GMT
#19
On August 22 2013 02:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 02:44 Dingodile wrote:
Mr.Chae <3
What did he at TI3?


GomTV is getting (has gotten) into DotA2 as well.


So can we expect Tastosis to drop WoT anytime soon (yes please) and switch to dota2 (YES PLEASE) ?
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 21 2013 19:30 GMT
#20
On August 22 2013 04:03 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 02:27 xsnac wrote:
i agree with nazgul
blizzard : robots that act only by the rules
valve : humans

i wonder if blizzard will ever see those interviews



Know why Valve doesn't release HL3? Because the moment they do, people are going to shit all over them for the smallest, insignificant things. That's exactly what's happened to Blizz.

Valve does not have the same pressure as blizzard had before releasing SC2. Until SC2 and D3, blizzard had an history of revolutionary great games at each release. Now people don't expect much from them.
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