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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 14 2013 08:25 GWdeathscythe wrote: Calling him Jaekong is so disrespectful. But calling Stork a kong isn't, correct? If you end up with a lot of second places but no gold medals in Starcraft, you're a kong. That description fits Jaedong perfectly. | ||
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GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
On August 14 2013 08:28 Zealously wrote: But calling Stork a kong isn't, correct? If you end up with a lot of second places but no gold medals in Starcraft, you're a kong. That description fits Jaedong perfectly. It is the way you say it, mocking his name. Just like "Storkong" would sound disrespectful to me, but that is my way to see things. "Jaedong enters the Kong line" or something similiar without the moking would sound better. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On August 14 2013 05:49 figq wrote: elephant in the room?China is on the rise, new websites and big money being raised there recently and their players already doing decently in WCS. Soon, if things are really developing now in China, there could be a whole new force coming from there and for now it seems such force would join NA too. So indeed the NA competition seems to be outgrowing EU for now. Although in a completely no-KR no-CN foreigner battle between NA and EU, from NA only Scarlett would measure well with the top of EU - she is undoubtedly the best right now, even long before Stephano retired actually. | ||
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Incubus1993
Canada140 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 14 2013 08:44 Incubus1993 wrote: It's a shame this isn't region locked by now, you should be forced to play on where you actually live. It's not WCS America it's WCS "Little Korea" lol If they region lock it, they might as well make a East vs West, as NA scene would be hard to justify skillwise. | ||
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Inimic
Canada153 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
gogo huk scarlett grubby nani polt | ||
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synd
Bulgaria586 Posts
gg Scarlett though | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Xahhk
Canada540 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
WCS's current system is going to give us one HELL of a Global Final. Already the Season 2 final roster is stacked full of so many ridiculously good and popular players that I personally have a very hard time knowing who I even want to cheer for. Are they mostly Korean pros? Yes. Does that matter? Absolutely not. WCS's intended goal is to make a global tournament that tries to fairly grant one player the title of global champion. Region Locked all it does is keep all of the real competition locked away in Korea only to stomp all over the foreigners when we finally get to the finals. It takes all of the excitement out of the finals and leaves everyone with a horrible aftertaste. What the American Scene needs is what the European scene already has, an independent and self serving local scene. Smaller region locked lans and online cups that give the NA players and teams a chance to compete among themselves. Shoutcraft America and Redbull Battlegrounds are nice starts, but there needs to be more events like them, and more events that aren't invite only to give the smaller less known NA teams out there a chance to compete. We shouldn't be throwing ourselves at Blizzard's feet to build something for us, that isn't what Europe did. We need to solve this problem ourselves. | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On August 14 2013 08:53 synd wrote: Well, what I learned is that WCS America is a tournament and not a social enterprise. They need some rules in EU/NA so you can limit the amount of Better Players that can qualify. It makes no sense to have every WCS won by Better Players and money given to the players who deserve it. gg Scarlett though we all have our opinions, my opinion causes me to see your post as edited. should we restrict tennis players from entering the US open ?Rol garos? Aus Open ? Wimbleton? only limited number of players from other regions are allowed? we should ban federer,joker and nadal from entering tournaments outside where they live. its only fair! we need to grow our local scenes! no. because that's retarded. why is this mentality existent in the 'esports' community? | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
Whereas with the elephant in the room, we did know for sure that there was an elephant present from the start. China looks very promising, but that's about it. We can't place any sure bets on China yet. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On August 14 2013 09:57 TyrantPotato wrote: we all have our opinions, my opinion causes me to see your post as edited. should we restrict tennis players from entering the US open ?Rol garos? Aus Open ? Wimbleton? only limited number of players from other regions are allowed? we should ban federer,joker and nadal from entering tournaments outside where they live. its only fair! we need to grow our local scenes! no. because that's retarded. why is this mentality existent in the 'esports' community? What bothers me most about that mentality is that it is so quintessentially "UnAmerican." We're supposed to be the culture that thrives on competition not the ones that hide away from it. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
lol just shows how stupid the kong label was, is and always will be. my 2 cents | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 14 2013 08:53 synd wrote: Well, what I learned is that WCS America does nothing for the american scene. They need some rules in EU/NA so you can limit the amount of koreans that can qualify. It makes no sense to have every WCS won by koreans and money given back in Korea. gg Scarlett though I should have an automated response for people like you. I've said it so many times I've lost track. I'll keep it simple: don't look at the tag in front of it because they're only prelims. Country has nothing to do with it and it never has. | ||
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synd
Bulgaria586 Posts
On August 14 2013 09:57 TyrantPotato wrote: we all have our opinions, my opinion causes me to see your post as edited. should we restrict tennis players from entering the US open ?Rol garos? Aus Open ? Wimbleton? only limited number of players from other regions are allowed? we should ban federer,joker and nadal from entering tournaments outside where they live. its only fair! we need to grow our local scenes! no. because that's retarded. why is this mentality existent in the 'esports' community? If you look at WCS like that than not only you failed to understand what WCS was supposed to be but also Blizzard horribly failed at making it do what it was supposed to. So in my opinion WCS should've been a kind of long-ish tournament for every region where players push themselves to win it. But by playing lots of games and good opponents from their respective regions + some small number of koreans (not as many koreans as foreigners, lol wtf), they're going to be in shape to compete at the highest lvl of SC2 - WCS Global Finals. So neither do the koreans who chose to participate in WCS EU/NA should have an easy time. They should go through a region-change qualifier. Something that should control the flow so in order for you to change regions, you should be in the for example 6-8 spots that are eligable to change regions. I think this is waaaaaaay better. On August 14 2013 10:12 StarStruck wrote: What if we already knew all these things? o_O I should have an automated response for people like you. I've said it so many times I've lost track. I'll keep it simple: don't look at the tag in front of it because they're only prelims. Country has nothing to do with it and it never has. Well, if we also forget about the country 'tag', we should also forget about traveling. Like - you have to travel to Korea to be competing in tournament as it was in BW. But it won't be even half as glorious as BW days were for Korea since alslo the sponsorships is much lower and SC2 isn't that good according to viewers as BW was. We'll go back to BW and it won't be even half as glorious as it was. | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
On August 14 2013 09:57 TyrantPotato wrote: we all have our opinions, my opinion causes me to see your post as edited. should we restrict tennis players from entering the US open ?Rol garos? Aus Open ? Wimbleton? only limited number of players from other regions are allowed? we should ban federer,joker and nadal from entering tournaments outside where they live. its only fair! we need to grow our local scenes! no. because that's retarded. why is this mentality existent in the 'esports' community? Well... I've never been to Australia (yet), but... Don't you have ANY Australian tourneys? If I take football, we have city tourneys, we have district tourneys, we have state tourneys, we have federal tourneys, we have european tourneys - AND then we have the world cup. Every level has, and needs, his own tourneys. It's pretty logical, as not every team is equally big, strong, has the same finanical capability, etc etc. A small team of a 5000 pop town will never be able to compete with Barcelona, Manchester or Munich. But that's just fine, they have their own league and their own championships. So, back to SC2, we need an American Championship, and then we have a World Championship. Like in real sports. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On August 14 2013 10:28 Caladan wrote: Well... I've never been to Australia (yet), but... Don't you have ANY Australian tourneys? If I take football, we have city tourneys, we have district tourneys, we have state tourneys, we have federal tourneys, we have european tourneys - AND then we have the world cup. Every level has, and needs, his own tourneys. It's pretty logical, as not every team is equally big, strong, has the same finanical capability, etc etc. A small team of a 5000 pop town will never be able to compete with Barcelona, Manchester or Munich. But that's just fine, they have their own league and their own championships. So, back to SC2, we need a American Championship, and then we have a World Championship. Like in real sports. That's a cool idea, but that doesn't mean that's what WCS needs to be. That's a cool niche for someone else to come along and fill. If the NA scene wants it badly enough then it'll create it for itself. | ||
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