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On August 13 2013 00:04 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:46 tshi wrote:On August 12 2013 23:42 Nymzee wrote:On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Soe said it best: "the international is just better than every other tournament." Exactly, it's made by a professional company who knows what they're doing. They've hyped it up for a long time, and it's on a big stage. Also, it's once a year, so that automatically gives it more meaning. Here is a picture of their numbers: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IqzAkpy.jpg) the "once a year" part in the main thing here. You can't compare TI to those season finals. Blizzcon numbers will tale the story here. Because TI is the absolute highlight of the Dota2 year (as far as I understood) while this were regular season games. Considering the huge satuation of SC2 content this weekend, the number are pretty fine. We'll just have to wait for the 2013 WCS finals at Blizzcon to make a real comparison.
You can never compare Sc2 numbers to Dota or LoL.Dota 2/LoL are free to play team games with cosmetic rewards to hook people. Sc2 is a pay to play single player game with no real reward for playing other than bettering yourself. Only ignorant people think comparing the numbers between the two means anything without proper context.
That being said, Tennis isn't dying because the superbowl is popular.
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On August 12 2013 23:46 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:42 Nymzee wrote:On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Soe said it best: "the international is just better than every other tournament." Exactly, it's made by a professional company who knows what they're doing. They've hyped it up for a long time, and it's on a big stage. Also, it's once a year, so that automatically gives it more meaning. Here is a picture of their numbers:
where do you get those chinese streamnumbers?
i like how 5,5k people are watching badminton. would love to see that actually 
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That's FYZB, Chinese stream platform.
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On August 12 2013 23:03 Random_0 wrote:
What about the WCS Korea stream? I'd be interested in seeing how those numbers compare to these?
Unfortunately the beginning of the stream was missed due to an ill-timed crash, but the numbers seem comparable to EU day 1. Of course this is only Twitch viewers, the real number should be way higher if you take people watching via the GOM player or on Korean TV into account.
On August 12 2013 23:34 Crytash wrote:
... pls stop using peak numbers and use average viewer numbers. I already made a post in the EU thread, but to sum it up, every day of WCS EU/NA but NA day 2 had over 34% less viewers than in season 1. I would refrain from calling it "strong" numbers.
I only used the peak number in the topic title, apart from that I mentioned averages
On August 12 2013 23:40 coverpunch wrote:
OP needs to label the horizontal axis please.
Fair point. Unfortunately the software package I use (Highcharts) makes this hard to do accurately with the way I'm gathering the numbers (intervals are not all equal length), so I'm still trying to figure out how to do this.
On August 12 2013 23:45 Crytash wrote:
As for OP btw. love your site, would you consider doing that for other games (lol, dota2,WoT) as well?
Would certainly be possible, in theory you could track everything on Twitch and if TL lists events you could track events as well (or if some other site does so, the scripts could be adapted). For now I'm focusing on Starcraft 2 only though, as it's the only game I have a personal interest in and I'd like to create a stable software platform and see how people respond to what I currently have before considering expansion.
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To be honest this tool is perfect i already love it the way it is. Trust me, if you go into other esports this will be huge and could basically be a groundbreaking website.
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On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_-
Wcs eu finals 2012: Once a year
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: Once a season
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: Once a season and against TI3.
So no, it not dropping.
SC2 seems fine. The finals will be pretty good in two weeks and I am sure Blizzcon will be a blow out.
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Why doesn't the X axis have a label on any of those charts?
Those look like they were made in MS Paint.
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no korean Eu finals...... no pvp and finale will top 120 k and more easily..... was good games but still ... this is not eu finale this is korean finale in eu ....
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Got a question. Probably a stupid one. Are these numbers just for the official main stream or also for the divided parts in several languages?
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On August 13 2013 00:58 Sc2Invader wrote:
Got a question. Probably a stupid one. Are these numbers just for the official main stream or also for the divided parts in several languages?
All non-English streams are included as well! See here for example for a detailed breakdown.
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Everything looks fine to me. Had Grubby won the semi-final I'm pretty sure it would have reached 100k. You can see the drop of when Grubby looses.
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On August 12 2013 23:46 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:42 Nymzee wrote:On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Soe said it best: "the international is just better than every other tournament." Exactly, it's made by a professional company who knows what they're doing. They've hyped it up for a long time, and it's on a big stage. Also, it's once a year, so that automatically gives it more meaning. Here is a picture of their numbers:
I think you forgot the russian streams :D .
But btt :
Hey isnt it great that so many people like to watch e-sports ?!
I think the numbers are great for both events (wcs / ti3). Lets just celebrate the greatness of esports.
Yeah SC2 is not the most watched esport anymore. But so what .. ?
As long as esports grows as a whole, everyone will profit in the end.
Its was a great weekend, with great games, from great athletes, and with nearly no sleep for me, but i am happy.
And i hope you all will be, too.
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On August 13 2013 00:43 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Wcs eu finals 2012: Once a year Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: Once a season Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: Once a season and against TI3. So no, it not dropping. SC2 seems fine. The finals will be pretty good in two weeks and I am sure Blizzcon will be a blow out.
This are peak viewers and The International 3 had not much to do with the WCS EU finals. The last match started 6PM german time, TI3 started at 9PM iirc.
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On August 13 2013 01:02 wingless666 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 23:46 tshi wrote:On August 12 2013 23:42 Nymzee wrote:On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Soe said it best: "the international is just better than every other tournament." Exactly, it's made by a professional company who knows what they're doing. They've hyped it up for a long time, and it's on a big stage. Also, it's once a year, so that automatically gives it more meaning. Here is a picture of their numbers: I think you forgot the russian streams :D . But btt : Hey isnt it great that so many people like to watch e-sports ?! I think the numbers are great for both events (wcs / ti3). Lets just celebrate the greatness of esports. Yeah SC2 is not the most watched esport anymore. But so what .. ? As long as esports grows as a whole, everyone will profit in the end. Its was a great weekend, with great games, from great athletes, and with nearly no sleep for me, but i am happy. And i hope you all will be, too.
Yeah, once a year event that has been hyped for 6 months with tons of build up and in game hype compaired to the second season of a year league. Guess what? Dota 2 isn't putting up those numbers again for another 12 months.
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On August 13 2013 01:05 Gr33d wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:43 Plansix wrote:On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Wcs eu finals 2012: Once a year Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: Once a season Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: Once a season and against TI3. So no, it not dropping. SC2 seems fine. The finals will be pretty good in two weeks and I am sure Blizzcon will be a blow out. This are peak viewers and The International 3 had not much to do with the WCS EU finals. The last match started 6PM german time, TI3 started at 9PM iirc.
TI3 doesn't matter that much in the long term for any of the regions, just for that weekend. It will be 12 months before any Dota 2 event gets anything near those numbers again. WCS finals as Blizzcon will also be huge. This is a non-issue.
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On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_-
WCS EU 2012 was a once per year affair.
Also your WCS EU 2013 S1 numbers are way low (it was definitely over 100k for Steph vs MVP finals).
These numbers were way, way better than the doomsayers predicted - I mean with Korean vs Korean finals and TI3 (yes, TI3 matters, normal people don't stay awake for 48 hours, if they watch TI3 they're sleeping during WCS) these were pretty great numbers.
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People should stop focusing so much on moba games and what numbers they are getting, and instead worry about our own community and game. If I run a 3 star restaurant I don't look at what the guys over at McDonalds are doing even though they are much popular.
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I like how everyone just passed over NovstOrm's link that showed GOMtv once had 774k viewers on Gomplayer at once
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On August 13 2013 01:05 Gr33d wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 00:43 Plansix wrote:On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k
Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k
Dropping? ... -_- Wcs eu finals 2012: Once a year Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: Once a season Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: Once a season and against TI3. So no, it not dropping. SC2 seems fine. The finals will be pretty good in two weeks and I am sure Blizzcon will be a blow out. This are peak viewers and The International 3 had not much to do with the WCS EU finals. The last match started 6PM german time, TI3 started at 9PM iirc.
some people dont want to spend 10+ hours in front of a pc and watching esports. so they are choosing one event to watch.
would they have been on same time the effect would have been much bigger though.
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On August 13 2013 01:09 Eury wrote:
People should stop focusing so much on moba games and what numbers they are getting, and instead worry about our own community and game. If I run a 3 star restaurant I don't look at what the guys over at McDonalds are doing even though they are much popular.
shots fired <3
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