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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Some reasons why it didn't reach a higher viewer peak: - Too much stuff going on that weekend. - Lots of unavoidable PvP matches, which luckily weren't as bad as their reputation. - Lack of a powerful foreigner, but then again Grubby being so strong should've evened that out. Specially as he's so likeable for most people. | ||
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Crytash
Germany251 Posts
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:09 USvBleakill wrote: Another example of Foreigners > Highest level of play in terms of viewership. I think if SC2 wants to genereate as much viewers as possible they have to make EU foreigner exclusive. Maybe, because Korean WCS is way harder they could just cut WCS NA (besides 1 or 2 players the NA scene is just loughable) and put this money to korea to balance the higher skill requirments. You know you need to account for the season finals too, right? It's ridiculous to try to create a temporary bump in the EU numbers just to watch the season finals plummet because nobody wants to watch foreigners get roflstomped by Koreans. Similar to the balance discussions, I think a lot of this just requires some patience and continued exposure to Korean competition. The distance is narrowing between Koreans and foreigners as they compete more, with more foreigners going to the season 2 finals than season 1. | ||
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habeck
1120 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k Dropping? ... -_- Nobody wants to watch a PvP | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:37 Chronald wrote: Numbers dropping for everyone across the board. Not surprising given Blizzard's support of their own leagues. Look at Valve and Riot dumping lots of money into their leagues, anyone see Blizzard doing the same? Nope. Either a change is coming, or SC2 is going, no other options for eSports companies at this point when such big name games pull much much larger numbers and money. Dude you realize we're talking about wcs? Way to be an ignorant shit stirring whore. | ||
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pmp10
3399 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:38 Crytash wrote: No they are not. A drop of 34% average viewership is NOT excellent even with all the factors considered. Maybe not but we don't know how much of that is due to TI3. It's unlikely Blizzard will try to pull another scheduling like this so a good portion of viewer lost to event-exhaustion may return. | ||
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Nymzee
3929 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Wcs eu finals 2012: 125k Wcs eu finals 2013 season 1: 80k Wcs eu finals 2013 season 2: 78k Dropping? ... -_- ti3 was on, and it was the finals. You don't compete vs that and win. Soe said it best: "the international is just better than every other tournament." | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:38 Crytash wrote: I expected much much worse, to be honest, maybe that's why I'm pleasantly surprised.No they are not. A drop of 34% average viewership is NOT excellent even with all the factors considered. | ||
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Crytash
Germany251 Posts
As for OP btw. love your site, would you consider doing that for other games (lol, dota2,WoT) as well? | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:42 Nymzee wrote: Soe said it best: "the international is just better than every other tournament." Exactly, it's made by a professional company who knows what they're doing. They've hyped it up for a long time, and it's on a big stage. Also, it's once a year, so that automatically gives it more meaning. Here is a picture of their numbers: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IqzAkpy.jpg) | ||
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
Viewers numbers were fine, games were fun etc if you hate Sc2 so much there's the door and all that. | ||
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Chloroplaste
France281 Posts
But for the few times I could have watch WCS EU or AM, the production was quite good (congratz to NASL after this terrible MLG production you did very well), and the viewers numbers are for me really high. I didn't expect so much viewers considering TI3 was going on AND the 3 finals was on same days (really tiring to catch all even if you see only WCS tournaments). If production and players are decent I expect 90k viewers at WCS season finals. | ||
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
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Metak
296 Posts
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:48 Esoterikk wrote: Oh look the daily Sc2 is dying thread, don't even know why I come to this subforum anymore. Viewers numbers were fine, games were fun etc if you hate Sc2 so much there's the door and all that. I don't see anyone saying that SC2 is dying in this thread? It's just a summary of numbers for the WCS event streams over the weekend. In all honesty I thought the numbers were pretty good considering TI3 was the same weekend and the viewership for all 3 WCS events was likely somewhat diminished because I doubt anyone watched all three WCS events. For instance, if I got up super early to watch the European event you can bet I'm not going to also be watching the AM event. Obviously SC2 numbers for WCS are going to be smaller than Dota 2's yearly massive competition, I don't think anyone is translating that into SC2 is dying here though. Don't be so negative mate. | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:48 Esoterikk wrote: Oh look the daily Sc2 is dying thread, don't even know why I come to this subforum anymore. Viewers numbers were fine, games were fun etc if you hate Sc2 so much there's the door and all that. Well said | ||
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:58 Achaia wrote: I don't see anyone saying that SC2 is dying in this thread? It's just a summary of numbers for the WCS event streams over the weekend. In all honesty I thought the numbers were pretty good considering TI3 was the same weekend and the viewership for all 3 WCS events was likely somewhat diminished because I doubt anyone watched all three WCS events. For instance, if I got up super early to watch the European event you can bet I'm not going to also be watching the AM event. Obviously SC2 numbers for WCS are going to be smaller than Dota 2's yearly massive competition, I don't think anyone is translating that into SC2 is dying here though. Don't be so negative mate. I fully agree numbers were fine even said it in my post. The OP itself was good but I don't know if we are reading the same thread but there is already a lot of "sc2 ded gaem" being posted and it's only going to get much worse as this thread gets bigger. Prove me wrong TLers. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On August 12 2013 23:46 tshi wrote: Exactly, it's made by a professional company who knows what they're doing. They've hyped it up for a long time, and it's on a big stage. Also, it's once a year, so that automatically gives it more meaning. Here is a picture of their numbers: the "once a year" part in the main thing here. You can't compare TI to those season finals. Blizzcon numbers will tale the story here. Because TI is the absolute highlight of the Dota2 year (as far as I understood) while this were regular season games. Considering the huge satuation of SC2 content this weekend, the number are pretty fine. We'll just have to wait for the 2013 WCS finals at Blizzcon to make a real comparison. | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
 Only 1 power of 10 behind TI3! | ||
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