WCS Finals stream viewer numbers (peak: 78k) - Page 6

On August 13 2013 03:14 dooshplayer wrote:



well dota 2 aint gonna get 1 mil concurrent viewers again but most dota 2 lans get 100k + viewers.

On August 13 2013 03:14 Tobblish wrote:
As expected the numbers are good considering all the different circumstances.
That WCS America Finals actually went above 50k for it's finals are just mindboggling to me.

SC2 have it's place even if a event have shit hype behind it and people being crazy depressed about the whole scene.
The region finals were a success no doubt about it.

Now for the Season finals!

On August 13 2013 01:09 Eury wrote:
People should stop focusing so much on moba games and what numbers they are getting, and instead worry about our own community and game. If I run a 3 star restaurant I don't look at what the guys over at McDonalds are doing even though they are much popular.

On August 12 2013 23:25 Apolo wrote:


I remember the HDH Beta Invitationals (Wings of Liberty Beta, grand finals between White-Ra and Idra) had around 180k on the stream.

On August 13 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
We need to end the era of everyone looking at the LoL numbers and TI3 numbers with envy and crying about how far behind SC2 is. It is counter productive and only puts the negative, fun sucking shadow over all of SC2. It won’t make the numbers bigger and won’t change anything. If we want to see SC2’s number rise, the best thing the community can do is to stop claiming or attempting to prove it is dying(I don’t know why people think this would do anything good). The endless balance discussions and viewership discussions need to end and we need to just be focused on the next event and how awesome it is.

On August 13 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
We need to end the era of everyone looking at the LoL numbers and TI3 numbers with envy and crying about how far behind SC2 is. It is counter productive and only puts the negative, fun sucking shadow over all of SC2. It won’t make the numbers bigger and won’t change anything. If we want to see SC2’s number rise, the best thing the community can do is to stop claiming or attempting to prove it is dying(I don’t know why people think this would do anything good). The endless balance discussions and viewership discussions need to end and we need to just be focused on the next event and how awesome it is.

On August 12 2013 23:03 Random_0 wrote:
What about the WCS Korea stream? I'd be interested in seeing how those numbers compare to these?

On August 13 2013 04:22 blinken wrote:
I watched DOTA 2 for almost half an hour and had never been so bored in my life.

On August 13 2013 04:43 Canucklehead wrote:


I agree. I watched 1 1/2 games of it and I didn't find it that exciting or special. I've never played any moba game in my life. I think unless you play the game yourself, it's too complicated of a game to follow and know what's going on. I don't think it has any intrinsic entertainment value from the perspective of a non player. There's just too much you need to know in order to enjoy watching it.

On August 13 2013 04:49 Esoterikk wrote:


I play it (2000 hours on steam and X amount in Wc3) and even I find it boring to watch. Some people don't understand that opinions are subjective I guess.

We need to end the era of everyone looking at the LoL numbers and TI3 numbers with envy and crying about how far behind SC2 is. It is counter productive and only puts the negative, fun sucking shadow over all of SC2. It won’t make the numbers bigger and won’t change anything. If we want to see SC2’s number rise, the best thing the community can do is to stop claiming or attempting to prove it is dying(I don’t know why people think this would do anything good). The endless balance discussions and viewership discussions need to end and we need to just be focused on the next event and how awesome it is.

On August 13 2013 04:17 evaniss wrote:

Speaking number of TV viewers,OGN's average of rating is around of 0.2% and usually peak of rating is around 0.7%
in the Final events and big evnets
Korean Cable TV subscribers are about 15 million households, i'd let you go to calculate the number of TV viewers.

and it is difficult to aggregate how many korea stream viewers have
but i can say it usually far more than 100k viewers in the interent stream
you know there are so many streaming services to watch OGN and GOMTV (included mobile)
nowdays, 40% of Korean young generation ppl they watch TV,vod and stream via mobile also so many ppl watch gsl,LOL leagues and OGN broadcast with their mobile devices, so it is hard to aggregate the total numbers.

On August 12 2013 22:51 Stijn wrote:
For the past few weeks I've been working on a site that tracks viewer numbers for starcraft 2 Twitch streams and turns them into graphs, rankings, et cetera. I got it more or less finished just in time for the WCS Season 2 finals weekend, and since there's been some discussion about how many viewers these events would get I though that's be a nice opportunity to announce the site and give an example of the kind of things it does at the same time ^^

Furthermore the site also tracks player streams (example) and teams (example) and gives a comprehensive overview of how stream viewership is doing in comparison to earlier weeks and such, so hopefully it can be useful for individual streamers as well.

Anyway! The full overview for the entire weekend can be found at http://fuzic.nl/sets/wcs-season-2-grand-finals/. Some observations:

• The EU stream had the most viewers by far, topping out at 78k during the grand final but reaching 65k earlier during the duckdeok vs Grubby game.
  
• While the EU stream viewership climbed relatively slowly to reach strong numbers during the last few games of the day, the NA stream was more consistent, quickly reaching a relatively high level and staying at that for the remainder of the day.
  
• As expected, averages were lower than for previous season's WCS finals, which can probably be attributed to The International 3's finals being on at the same time. Averages for the NA and streams were about 10k lower than for previous season's finals.
  
• EU had it worse with 45k average on day 2 compared to 80k for season 1's final day. This could perhaps be attributed to the fact that this season, the final two were Korean, while in Season 1 fan favourite Stephano fought for the title.
  
• Of course, the Korean championship is broadcast on other platforms than Twitch and as such it is impossible to obtain accurate viewer numbers for it.
  

I hope these numbers are of use to some of you and contribute to having better discussions about these things. Feel free to let me know if you have any feedback on the site or would like to see some specific graphs or overviews!