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Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
September 08 2013 10:55 GMT
#81
On September 08 2013 19:27 Pimmeh wrote:
Can we have Maddelisk provide the english voice then, in gears 2.0?

Absolutely, if she's willing to do that. Have her contact me or someone give me her email and I can contact her.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
September 08 2013 11:05 GMT
#82
Sounds cool. I didn't even know Blizzard made that s2protocol python thing.
Only thing I know is that I know nothing.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
September 08 2013 11:10 GMT
#83
Excited for this.
Julyzerg ftw
pradeek
Profile Joined March 2012
India3 Posts
September 08 2013 11:12 GMT
#84
I've been thinking of working on something like this as well. PM me if need any help with development. Good luck!
LoveTool
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 12:39:29
September 08 2013 12:37 GMT
#85
I'm a software developer contractor and a current paying customer and I approve of this message Great decision!

Take risks, experiment, make more than one prototype! Let things evolve before committing. Stay high quality, release based on release criterias not based on wishful date. Consider consulting a Ux expert to verify UI ideas.

GOOD LUCK !

(and have fun)
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
September 08 2013 12:53 GMT
#86
Great initiative. It hurts my Python heart a bit to see Java used here tho ^^. Best of Luck!
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 08 2013 13:01 GMT
#87
On September 08 2013 19:55 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:27 Pimmeh wrote:
Can we have Maddelisk provide the english voice then, in gears 2.0?

Absolutely, if she's willing to do that. Have her contact me or someone give me her email and I can contact her.


Can we have a TLO version, too, if we make him contact you?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
gvb
Profile Joined March 2010
United States30 Posts
September 08 2013 13:53 GMT
#88
Good luck!

My $0.02 is:

1. Ensure that you iterate very frequently to avoid running into the same problems as before. Here's http://theleanstartup.com/principlesthe main site for the book, but you can google around and avoid reading the whole thing. Still, the takeaway is that you have to get lots of user feedback at each stage of development to avoid creating something that has unwanted features or clunky UI.

2. If you want help identifying viable names for the new product, let me know. I am an attorney and I work on trademark matters so I could help you "clear" a new name to avoid picking something that will only earn you a C&D letter down the line. Gratis, because I love SC2, and I would not disclose the suggested names to anyone.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
September 08 2013 14:03 GMT
#89
Good luck with the succesor! I've always loved the utilities SC2gears provided.

As someone who is still refactoring someone elses framework ( of course, it was completely undocumented ), count your blessings on being able to start anew.
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
September 08 2013 14:55 GMT
#90
On September 08 2013 22:01 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:55 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On September 08 2013 19:27 Pimmeh wrote:
Can we have Maddelisk provide the english voice then, in gears 2.0?

Absolutely, if she's willing to do that. Have her contact me or someone give me her email and I can contact her.


Can we have a TLO version, too, if we make him contact you?

Sure. Go ahead and arrange it.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 15:02:49
September 08 2013 15:01 GMT
#91
On September 08 2013 22:53 gvb wrote:
Good luck!

My $0.02 is:

1. Ensure that you iterate very frequently to avoid running into the same problems as before. Here's http://theleanstartup.com/principlesthe main site for the book, but you can google around and avoid reading the whole thing. Still, the takeaway is that you have to get lots of user feedback at each stage of development to avoid creating something that has unwanted features or clunky UI.

2. If you want help identifying viable names for the new product, let me know. I am an attorney and I work on trademark matters so I could help you "clear" a new name to avoid picking something that will only earn you a C&D letter down the line. Gratis, because I love SC2, and I would not disclose the suggested names to anyone.

Yes, iterative development is something close to my heart.

About the name: I've already chosen it. I always choose a name in a very early stage, just like in this case. And I always choose a new, unique name/word. This was verified by Google which only list like 130 total pages for this word in the world (if you try any English word, you most likely get millions if not hundreds of millions of pages).
https://repmastered.icza.net
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
September 08 2013 15:05 GMT
#92
well good luck and I'm looking forward to this
SC2Gears is something I've used since it's very first release, and something I always have open whenever I'm on SC2
absolutely love it and can't wait for this new thing
Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
September 08 2013 15:05 GMT
#93
Awesome! DF, you're my favorite TL user.
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
September 08 2013 15:09 GMT
#94
Wow, exciting stuff. If the UI is more user friendly I will be using this from now on.
En Taro Adun, Executor!
rexar
Profile Joined February 2011
France103 Posts
September 08 2013 15:40 GMT
#95
Are you using Swing again ?
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
September 08 2013 15:42 GMT
#96
I personally love the current UI but I guess this will be even more awesome. Also plz keep the avg injection gap/ indication of macro mechanics! Very helpful and overlooked by a lot of players who are new to the tool.
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 08 2013 16:03 GMT
#97
new smix lines? :D
:)
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
September 08 2013 16:32 GMT
#98
I'm very excited for this, I'm a huge fan of Sc2gears and would love a more streamlined / user friendly version.
In Somnis Veritas
jorlz
Profile Joined September 2013
1 Post
September 08 2013 18:12 GMT
#99
Doing a full rewrite is almost always a bad idea. Check out for some reasons why: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

Java is actually one of the easiest languages to refactor and to replace one chunk of the code at a time. Java IDEs have amazing code refactoring tools which make it easy to quickly move things around, rename things, etc. You can then start replacing parts of the program piece by piece. Since the UI is the part you like the least, maybe start by making a completely new interface and then connect it to the old code. You can then delete all the bits of the old UI. You can repeat such a process until things start looking completely new. And every step of the way you'll have a working product. And you can always start using Java 7 features any time you'd like--even on the old codebase.

One thing I'd highly suggest with the new interface: do user tests on it. Write up a script that prompts people to do the types of tasks you'd expect a normal user to do. Have people try to follow the script while you watch and optionally video tape (with your phone is fine) without saying a single word or helping them. You can get amazing feedback on what's working and what isn't user interface wise that way.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 18:54:05
September 08 2013 18:39 GMT
#100
I ♥ netscape

good luck

java ides? they are all cheap gimmicks compared to vs and resharper.

Thats like saying c&c3 is a good rts

sure it is ... till you play a real rts.

Please take that a s challenge .. you find another ide that can challenge vs and resharper .. pls tell me. kinda want to get out of the .net world with microsofts lack of commitment to a front end tech. (ps the answer is not eclipse).

What the guy above is saying makes a lot of sense.
Look at it from a perspective of use cases - build acceptance tests. I really don't like this new fad of lean ... i mean it makes sense but allt hese suckers are buying into snake oil of commoditisation by buying into profitibality. You have already dont more than most people on here.

sc2 gears is good. Sure it has evolved and it is showing signs of it, but you are one dude who has managed to kick some ass frankly. Be *really* careful about chucking stuff away. I have worked on and with people who have made that mistake WAY too many times.

I guess you od have the luxury of not actually having someone dictating what to do or else they dont pay but still, getting code that works is really hard - when it does work it will be a lot more perverse and twisted than when you started.

although when he starts talking about taping people ... dont do that ... if you really want that data ... add hooks for logging. Get people to install a version that implements usage feedback. Its cheaper, more realistic and gets stuff you would never really notice on vide.

Also if someone says minimum viable product ... punch them. You ahve proved you can produce ... fucking own this thing.


PS that risk thing is bs you may as well come up with INVEST and a play on innovation.


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