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RealBear
Estonia1 Post
Also graphs that use the same variables like "Time" should be able to be merged together into one chart. The user should have some sort of control over the data presentation. Bar charts, lines, etc. I would like to see a simple build order viewer in similar of SC2 style where it's a simple list with a timeline. | ||
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carlfish
Australia57 Posts
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[Tieria]
United States4 Posts
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Qntc.YuMe
United States792 Posts
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kingNothing42
United States42 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On September 09 2013 08:25 kingNothing42 wrote: Sadly, it sounds like this is still based on Java and thus I will still not be installing it. I had it prior to the point that I hardened my anti-java stance and it was great. I miss it, but good lord do I not miss Java. Can you explain why no java? :D | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Installing java is like saying 'plz backdoor me' to some people. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:40 rexar wrote: Are you using Swing again ? Swing, yes, as the base. But I wrote my own components or extended/improved the ones that come as default. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On September 09 2013 03:12 jorlz wrote: Doing a full rewrite is almost always a bad idea. Check out for some reasons why: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html Java is actually one of the easiest languages to refactor and to replace one chunk of the code at a time. Java IDEs have amazing code refactoring tools which make it easy to quickly move things around, rename things, etc. You can then start replacing parts of the program piece by piece. Since the UI is the part you like the least, maybe start by making a completely new interface and then connect it to the old code. You can then delete all the bits of the old UI. You can repeat such a process until things start looking completely new. And every step of the way you'll have a working product. And you can always start using Java 7 features any time you'd like--even on the old codebase. One thing I'd highly suggest with the new interface: do user tests on it. Write up a script that prompts people to do the types of tasks you'd expect a normal user to do. Have people try to follow the script while you watch and optionally video tape (with your phone is fine) without saying a single word or helping them. You can get amazing feedback on what's working and what isn't user interface wise that way. Nice read. Doesn't really apply in this case though for several reasons. Sc2gears wasn't a team job but a one-man job. So is the successor. The same "team" is used to develop the successor than the old which completely understands the old code, and there are facts backing up that the same functions will be written better. The only difference between the "old" and "new" team is that the new team has all the experience and knowledge of the old plus a big extra. Also the old code is not thrown away completely, many of them are reused, refactored, integrated in or influences the new code big time. I know about refactoring Java, but the changes involve so many components and concepts that in the long run I think this was the better idea. And on the other hand the old code contained parts based on hundreds of hours of reverse engineering and "guessing" which - due to the official replay parsing support from Blizzard - are really outdated or have been proved unnecessary or have been proved being wrong. Also Java 7 contains some new features which I implemented on my own in the past (when they were not available) but are not needed anymore because Oracle finally decided to write them on their own and include them in Java 7. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On September 09 2013 04:28 RealBear wrote: When using SC2 Gears then I have felt the most need for tools that are capable of analyzing replays in a longer perspective. In otherwords make stats out of my previous replays so I can track my skill progress like ggtracker does. Also graphs that use the same variables like "Time" should be able to be merged together into one chart. The user should have some sort of control over the data presentation. Bar charts, lines, etc. I would like to see a simple build order viewer in similar of SC2 style where it's a simple list with a timeline. That simple build order extraction and display was not possible accurately in old relay versions (because they did not contain enough information), although Sc2gears has a feature which does its best to calculate it accurately. Right click on a replay and choose "Show build orders table". Starting from replay version 2.0.8 more info is included in replays which is enough to show accurate build orders. So accurate build order will surely be implemented (sooner or later). | ||
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ECA.BruTATroN
United States282 Posts
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On September 09 2013 08:55 HornyHerring wrote: Installing java is like saying 'plz backdoor me' to some people. Unfortunately there are some serious mis-communication regarding Java security. Yes, from time to time security holes are discovered in Java due to its sandboxing model. But these security issues only apply to Java applets that are run inside browsers, and these issues are completely irrelevant to desktop java applications! (And of course Sc2gears and the successor are desktop applications not applets.) Java does not pose any bigger security risk if you disable Java applets in your browser than any other programming technology. If you use the Chrome browser for example, it doesn't even run Java applets without your confirmation. And you can disable Java applets in any browser. Once you do this, you have been successfully and completely sealed yourself from all Java vulnerabilities that you might read about in the news. | ||
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aike
United States1629 Posts
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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chuky500
France473 Posts
I have a suggestion, it would be nice to be able to leave notes about players and see them in the loading screen. So for bar codes over time you can know who is who for sure, and also you can leave notes in lower leagues about this guy is a cheeser, this guy went nexus first or things like that. Sometimes you see the name of players and you're not sure if you've already played them or not so your program could help. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
I think the result will be awesone. Will you Open source the project ? | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On September 10 2013 18:53 graNite wrote: How far are you with your new project? Any percentage of the completion? Making good progress but no completion percent available. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On September 10 2013 20:07 Marou wrote: Really nice I think the result will be awesone. Will you Open source the project ? At the release date certainly not. | ||
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jarod
Romania766 Posts
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On September 10 2013 21:06 jarod wrote: Nice, when will we have it? Look at his signature. We won't get closer than that | ||
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