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RealBear
Profile Joined September 2013
Estonia1 Post
September 08 2013 19:28 GMT
#101
When using SC2 Gears then I have felt the most need for tools that are capable of analyzing replays in a longer perspective. In otherwords make stats out of my previous replays so I can track my skill progress like ggtracker does.

Also graphs that use the same variables like "Time" should be able to be merged together into one chart. The user should have some sort of control over the data presentation. Bar charts, lines, etc.

I would like to see a simple build order viewer in similar of SC2 style where it's a simple list with a timeline.
carlfish
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia57 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 22:10:35
September 08 2013 22:04 GMT
#102
[nothing to see here, didn't see how old the OP was]
I am a fish.
[Tieria]
Profile Joined May 2013
United States4 Posts
September 08 2013 22:28 GMT
#103
Sounds awesome! I would like to request that you keep XAPM and allow for it to be tracked over a multi-rep analysis. I find it very useful to keep track of how much I am utilizing the minimap and camera keys. Additionally adding in just a raw button mashing number that doesn't filter any actions might me useful for some people.
When there is evil in this world that justice cannot defeat.Would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast & righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
September 08 2013 22:57 GMT
#104
i wish there were screen shots to see how it looks like!
kingNothing42
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
September 08 2013 23:25 GMT
#105
Sadly, it sounds like this is still based on Java and thus I will still not be installing it. I had it prior to the point that I hardened my anti-java stance and it was great. I miss it, but good lord do I not miss Java.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 08 2013 23:26 GMT
#106
On September 09 2013 08:25 kingNothing42 wrote:
Sadly, it sounds like this is still based on Java and thus I will still not be installing it. I had it prior to the point that I hardened my anti-java stance and it was great. I miss it, but good lord do I not miss Java.

Can you explain why no java? :D
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
September 08 2013 23:55 GMT
#107
On September 09 2013 08:26 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 08:25 kingNothing42 wrote:
Sadly, it sounds like this is still based on Java and thus I will still not be installing it. I had it prior to the point that I hardened my anti-java stance and it was great. I miss it, but good lord do I not miss Java.

Can you explain why no java? :D

Installing java is like saying 'plz backdoor me' to some people.
oh, hai
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2348 Posts
September 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#108
On September 09 2013 00:40 rexar wrote:
Are you using Swing again ?

Swing, yes, as the base. But I wrote my own components or extended/improved the ones that come as default.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 09:39:16
September 09 2013 04:44 GMT
#109
On September 09 2013 03:12 jorlz wrote:
Doing a full rewrite is almost always a bad idea. Check out for some reasons why: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

Java is actually one of the easiest languages to refactor and to replace one chunk of the code at a time. Java IDEs have amazing code refactoring tools which make it easy to quickly move things around, rename things, etc. You can then start replacing parts of the program piece by piece. Since the UI is the part you like the least, maybe start by making a completely new interface and then connect it to the old code. You can then delete all the bits of the old UI. You can repeat such a process until things start looking completely new. And every step of the way you'll have a working product. And you can always start using Java 7 features any time you'd like--even on the old codebase.

One thing I'd highly suggest with the new interface: do user tests on it. Write up a script that prompts people to do the types of tasks you'd expect a normal user to do. Have people try to follow the script while you watch and optionally video tape (with your phone is fine) without saying a single word or helping them. You can get amazing feedback on what's working and what isn't user interface wise that way.

Nice read.

Doesn't really apply in this case though for several reasons.

Sc2gears wasn't a team job but a one-man job. So is the successor. The same "team" is used to develop the successor than the old which completely understands the old code, and there are facts backing up that the same functions will be written better. The only difference between the "old" and "new" team is that the new team has all the experience and knowledge of the old plus a big extra.

Also the old code is not thrown away completely, many of them are reused, refactored, integrated in or influences the new code big time.
I know about refactoring Java, but the changes involve so many components and concepts that in the long run I think this was the better idea.
And on the other hand the old code contained parts based on hundreds of hours of reverse engineering and "guessing" which - due to the official replay parsing support from Blizzard - are really outdated or have been proved unnecessary or have been proved being wrong.
Also Java 7 contains some new features which I implemented on my own in the past (when they were not available) but are not needed anymore because Oracle finally decided to write them on their own and include them in Java 7.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2348 Posts
September 09 2013 04:50 GMT
#110
On September 09 2013 04:28 RealBear wrote:
When using SC2 Gears then I have felt the most need for tools that are capable of analyzing replays in a longer perspective. In otherwords make stats out of my previous replays so I can track my skill progress like ggtracker does.

Also graphs that use the same variables like "Time" should be able to be merged together into one chart. The user should have some sort of control over the data presentation. Bar charts, lines, etc.

I would like to see a simple build order viewer in similar of SC2 style where it's a simple list with a timeline.

That simple build order extraction and display was not possible accurately in old relay versions (because they did not contain enough information), although Sc2gears has a feature which does its best to calculate it accurately. Right click on a replay and choose "Show build orders table".

Starting from replay version 2.0.8 more info is included in replays which is enough to show accurate build orders. So accurate build order will surely be implemented (sooner or later).
https://repmastered.icza.net
ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
September 09 2013 04:54 GMT
#111
i would add more voices the replay save voice. Maybe even a custom recording each individual could record and use
http://www.twitch.tv/brutatron
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 05:10:16
September 09 2013 05:00 GMT
#112
On September 09 2013 08:55 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 08:26 ZenithM wrote:
On September 09 2013 08:25 kingNothing42 wrote:
Sadly, it sounds like this is still based on Java and thus I will still not be installing it. I had it prior to the point that I hardened my anti-java stance and it was great. I miss it, but good lord do I not miss Java.

Can you explain why no java? :D

Installing java is like saying 'plz backdoor me' to some people.

Unfortunately there are some serious mis-communication regarding Java security.

Yes, from time to time security holes are discovered in Java due to its sandboxing model. But these security issues only apply to Java applets that are run inside browsers, and these issues are completely irrelevant to desktop java applications!
(And of course Sc2gears and the successor are desktop applications not applets.)

Java does not pose any bigger security risk if you disable Java applets in your browser than any other programming technology. If you use the Chrome browser for example, it doesn't even run Java applets without your confirmation. And you can disable Java applets in any browser. Once you do this, you have been successfully and completely sealed yourself from all Java vulnerabilities that you might read about in the news.
https://repmastered.icza.net
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
September 10 2013 09:27 GMT
#113
lulz at all the people trying to give Dakota_Fanning programming advice
Wahaha
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 10 2013 09:53 GMT
#114
How far are you with your new project? Any percentage of the completion?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 10:56:26
September 10 2013 10:31 GMT
#115
I'm not aware of all the features Sc2Gears have as I've only used a few times when trying new builds to see the stats about what's working better.

I have a suggestion, it would be nice to be able to leave notes about players and see them in the loading screen. So for bar codes over time you can know who is who for sure, and also you can leave notes in lower leagues about this guy is a cheeser, this guy went nexus first or things like that. Sometimes you see the name of players and you're not sure if you've already played them or not so your program could help.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
September 10 2013 11:07 GMT
#116
Really nice

I think the result will be awesone. Will you Open source the project ?
twitter@RickyMarou
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2348 Posts
September 10 2013 11:43 GMT
#117
On September 10 2013 18:53 graNite wrote:
How far are you with your new project? Any percentage of the completion?

Making good progress but no completion percent available.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2348 Posts
September 10 2013 11:44 GMT
#118
On September 10 2013 20:07 Marou wrote:
Really nice

I think the result will be awesone. Will you Open source the project ?

At the release date certainly not.
https://repmastered.icza.net
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
September 10 2013 12:06 GMT
#119
Nice, when will we have it?
Maru | Life | herO
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 10 2013 12:23 GMT
#120
On September 10 2013 21:06 jarod wrote:
Nice, when will we have it?

Look at his signature. We won't get closer than that
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
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