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On July 29 2013 12:49 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran , i am never changing it so u cant tell me i ply other things when my oppnents goes hatch first or pool first , i sometimes go forge opening when i play against opponents like Bly , its not possible to hold his hatch first , gas pool with gate opening so i decided to go for a forge , and what knowme said that i went for 5 canons .. i know when somebody cnaon rush the expand of bly then he goes normally roaches and i also saw the roaches cuz they attacked my canons , so its not unnormal that i go for 5 canons, and also to mention that my micro is not good enough for my top16 gm , thats nothing u can talk about , in a hacker thread , what a joke , u can also be a high level player when ur micro sux ,the game vs nerchio he called me maphacker , cuz i hold his early pool and knew he went for mass speedlings cuz he had no expand what i scouted? is that maphacking? i dont think so , also the games vs strelok like mentioned , i know he is a mech plyer so he won't play bio at any time , so its easy to say when he will go for drops , to know the timings etc. thats important , and when u know ur opponent wel enough than u can hardcounter him ,also i culd bly call "maphacker" or other people cuz they hardcountered me , its a joke to say somebody is maphacking when he just know what his opponent is going for .. and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. Anyone who writes like this is a hacker.
I assume this guy is German so it's a bit harsh to say this about someone communicating in their second language. Maybe writing a clear well worded response in their original language might reveal a more eloquent individual - the text above looks more like a SMS than proper English though.
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On July 29 2013 02:34 SearchEU wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran , i am never changing it so u cant tell me i ply other things when my oppnents goes hatch first or pool first , i sometimes go forge opening when i play against opponents like Bly , its not possible to hold his hatch first , gas pool with gate opening so i decided to go for a forge , and what knowme said that i went for 5 canons .. i know when somebody cnaon rush the expand of bly then he goes normally roaches and i also saw the roaches cuz they attacked my canons , so its not unnormal that i go for 5 canons, and also to mention that my micro is not good enough for my top16 gm , thats nothing u can talk about , in a hacker thread , what a joke , u can also be a high level player when ur micro sux ,the game vs nerchio he called me maphacker , cuz i hold his early pool and knew he went for mass speedlings cuz he had no expand what i scouted? is that maphacking? i dont think so , also the games vs strelok like mentioned , i know he is a mech plyer so he won't play bio at any time , so its easy to say when he will go for drops , to know the timings etc. thats important , and when u know ur opponent wel enough than u can hardcounter him ,also i culd bly call "maphacker" or other people cuz they hardcountered me , its a joke to say somebody is maphacking when he just know what his opponent is going for .. and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. Worst formatting ever.
Every time someone tries to defend themselves from MH accusations this is what it looks like. They just write one long paragraph of terrible English. It's almost as if people who MH are stupid.
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the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament
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they could make people submit first person views possibly.
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I usually put around 2-3 cannons in the mineral lines of my bases when I'm playing against a Zerg in the mid-late game (I do this to try to prevent myself from losing because of unexpected muta switches). In some cases, my opponent does fly in surprise-mutas to my bases after a minute or to two the cannons were finished. Now, if he accuses me of maphacking because of this, I really can't say much other than the fact that I was playing really safe, which isn't always the most trustworthy answer. At least it seems to me that the best way to make innocent people innocent would be having an anti-hack program in the client, but what do I know about programming;;
Hate maphackers T.T
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On July 29 2013 04:05 2v2 NexuS wrote:
iAmJeffReY u kiding right? ye there are only 1 german guy in this country that plays 2vs2.... gj *facepalm*
hope TL checks your IP, thats always hilarious.
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On July 29 2013 12:55 Trojanoz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 12:49 Manifesto7 wrote:On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran , i am never changing it so u cant tell me i ply other things when my oppnents goes hatch first or pool first , i sometimes go forge opening when i play against opponents like Bly , its not possible to hold his hatch first , gas pool with gate opening so i decided to go for a forge , and what knowme said that i went for 5 canons .. i know when somebody cnaon rush the expand of bly then he goes normally roaches and i also saw the roaches cuz they attacked my canons , so its not unnormal that i go for 5 canons, and also to mention that my micro is not good enough for my top16 gm , thats nothing u can talk about , in a hacker thread , what a joke , u can also be a high level player when ur micro sux ,the game vs nerchio he called me maphacker , cuz i hold his early pool and knew he went for mass speedlings cuz he had no expand what i scouted? is that maphacking? i dont think so , also the games vs strelok like mentioned , i know he is a mech plyer so he won't play bio at any time , so its easy to say when he will go for drops , to know the timings etc. thats important , and when u know ur opponent wel enough than u can hardcounter him ,also i culd bly call "maphacker" or other people cuz they hardcountered me , its a joke to say somebody is maphacking when he just know what his opponent is going for .. and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. Anyone who writes like this is a hacker. I assume this guy is German so it's a bit harsh to say this about someone communicating in their second language. Maybe writing a clear well worded response in their original language might reveal a more eloquent individual - the text above looks more like a SMS than proper English though.
hmmmmm no hes actually right about that
On December 28 2012 14:25 TT1 wrote:
ROFL FUCKING ZERG IS SO BROKEN IN HOTS THIS SHIT IS SO FUCKING RIDICULOUS. I TRIED EVERY ARMY COMP AND I KEPT GETTING ROLLED BY 200 200 LING ULTRA, FUCKING MELEE UNITS KEPT RAPING MY COLLOSUS/HT/IMMORTAL/ARCHON/ZEAL ARMYS. I WAS RAPING THIS MOTHERFUCKING SCRUB ZERG WITH DROPS ALL GAME LONG UNTIL HE HAD NO ECO, I TOLD MYSELF THAT ID DEFINETLY RAPE HIM BY ADDING SOME VOIDRAYS TO MY COMP CUS HE WAS COMMITING TO MASS GROUND AND WAS BROKE BUT NOP MOTHERFUCKER SCORPION HOOKED MY VOIDS W/ HIS PIECE OF SHIT VIPERS AND RAPED THEM WITH QUEENS. SHIT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE, A FUCKING TIER 1 UNIT RAPED MY 200 200 8K ARMY VALUE. FUCKING MUTALISKS ARE UNCATCHABLE AND THEY REGEN THEIR HP FAST AS FUCK, IF U TRY TO COUNTER THEM WITH PHOENIXS THEY SWITCH TO HYDRAS W/ SPEED WHILE HAVING 100X UR ECON CUS PROTOSS IS A TRASHASS TECH HEAVY LOW ECON RACE WHEREAS ZERG CAN MAKE 30 DRONES IN A SECOND CUS THEYRE COOL LIKE THAT. OH YEA AND THEN THEY HAVE VIPERS, THESE MOTHERFUCKERS BASICALLY TURN EVERY ARMY COMPOSITION THAT THEY HAVE INTO AN UNSTOPPABLE A MOVING MACHINE. FUCKING RETARDED GAME GO SUCK A FUCKING DICK PIECE OF SHIT HOTS
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On July 29 2013 12:58 TT1 wrote:
the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament
I think an antihack launcher would break the terms of use as much as the hacks themselves.
Tournament organizers could probably make a tool that buffers a few frames then takes a screenshot at random. The buffer being necessary since a hack developer could probably intercept the screenshot request, disable for an instant, then re-enable afterwards. This way though, if somebody is accused or suspected they have screenshots they can examine. Though this is tedious. Shouldnt break any rules though I dont think.
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On July 29 2013 13:48 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 12:58 TT1 wrote:
the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament I think an antihack launcher would break the terms of use as much as the hacks themselves. Tournament organizers could probably make a tool that buffers a few frames then takes a screenshot at random. The buffer being necessary since a hack developer could probably intercept the screenshot request, disable for an instant, then re-enable afterwards. This way though, if somebody is accused or suspected they have screenshots they can examine. Though this is tedious. Shouldnt break any rules though I dont think.
Not sure how it would break any terms if it was made by Blizzard themselves. I already mentioned the possibility of this with their upcoming Blizzard Desktop Launcher on page 2 in this thread, but I guess most ignored it or missed it.
EDIT: The other suggestion make it seems so complicated. If a MH have something to intercept the screenshot being taken, then it should be fairly obvious that he can't deliver a screenshot to tournament admins, which makes guilty. (If we assume that the program works every time). This also sounds difficult to do for online tournament, but for offline, is it really necessary? What about the FPVOD-times of BW? Why is that never being done? It's the same as standing behind players and checking their screens.
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On July 29 2013 12:58 TT1 wrote:
the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament
That would not do anything because the way the MH are coded and used by pass the blizzard launcher, and the way Anti warden protection works on these map hacks negates anything a launcher would do.
And blizzard tried launcher based detection systems back in start of warcraft 3 when they were perfecting warden and it failed hard.
Also even 3rd party versions platforms for games aka garena, the Hack devs just cracked/ re done their protection for their hack.
And in sc2 the main coder for a certain mh that is being abused mostly by semi pro chinese players using it on GM Korea, is making profit off his hack and has a entire team keeping it updated and safe from Blizzard. He is a software dev himself which can be very costly for blizzard to combat.
Also people who are not so tech savvy or understand real world laws......There is only so much a company can do to detect 3rd party software on other peoples computers before they start breaking some laws.
Blizzards warden is pretty much what they are allowed to do as far as finding hacks via software detection. And there are a few ways blizzard can stop some of these hacks but again it requires a vast amount of money and the correct anti cheat dev to pull it off...
There is NEVER going to be a 100% perm solution, there will always be flaws in software and always be people willing to exploit it.
Internet hacking is a cat and mouse game that most gaming companies don't want to spend a fortune playing.
I'm sure Blizzard is trying their best, But its 2013 and reverse engineering has became so much more advanced making hacking 10x harder to stop.
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On July 29 2013 13:39 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 12:55 Trojanoz wrote:On July 29 2013 12:49 Manifesto7 wrote:On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran , i am never changing it so u cant tell me i ply other things when my oppnents goes hatch first or pool first , i sometimes go forge opening when i play against opponents like Bly , its not possible to hold his hatch first , gas pool with gate opening so i decided to go for a forge , and what knowme said that i went for 5 canons .. i know when somebody cnaon rush the expand of bly then he goes normally roaches and i also saw the roaches cuz they attacked my canons , so its not unnormal that i go for 5 canons, and also to mention that my micro is not good enough for my top16 gm , thats nothing u can talk about , in a hacker thread , what a joke , u can also be a high level player when ur micro sux ,the game vs nerchio he called me maphacker , cuz i hold his early pool and knew he went for mass speedlings cuz he had no expand what i scouted? is that maphacking? i dont think so , also the games vs strelok like mentioned , i know he is a mech plyer so he won't play bio at any time , so its easy to say when he will go for drops , to know the timings etc. thats important , and when u know ur opponent wel enough than u can hardcounter him ,also i culd bly call "maphacker" or other people cuz they hardcountered me , its a joke to say somebody is maphacking when he just know what his opponent is going for .. and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. Anyone who writes like this is a hacker. I assume this guy is German so it's a bit harsh to say this about someone communicating in their second language. Maybe writing a clear well worded response in their original language might reveal a more eloquent individual - the text above looks more like a SMS than proper English though. hmmmmm no hes actually right about that Show nested quote +On December 28 2012 14:25 TT1 wrote:
ROFL FUCKING ZERG IS SO BROKEN IN HOTS THIS SHIT IS SO FUCKING RIDICULOUS. I TRIED EVERY ARMY COMP AND I KEPT GETTING ROLLED BY 200 200 LING ULTRA, FUCKING MELEE UNITS KEPT RAPING MY COLLOSUS/HT/IMMORTAL/ARCHON/ZEAL ARMYS. I WAS RAPING THIS MOTHERFUCKING SCRUB ZERG WITH DROPS ALL GAME LONG UNTIL HE HAD NO ECO, I TOLD MYSELF THAT ID DEFINETLY RAPE HIM BY ADDING SOME VOIDRAYS TO MY COMP CUS HE WAS COMMITING TO MASS GROUND AND WAS BROKE BUT NOP MOTHERFUCKER SCORPION HOOKED MY VOIDS W/ HIS PIECE OF SHIT VIPERS AND RAPED THEM WITH QUEENS. SHIT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE, A FUCKING TIER 1 UNIT RAPED MY 200 200 8K ARMY VALUE. FUCKING MUTALISKS ARE UNCATCHABLE AND THEY REGEN THEIR HP FAST AS FUCK, IF U TRY TO COUNTER THEM WITH PHOENIXS THEY SWITCH TO HYDRAS W/ SPEED WHILE HAVING 100X UR ECON CUS PROTOSS IS A TRASHASS TECH HEAVY LOW ECON RACE WHEREAS ZERG CAN MAKE 30 DRONES IN A SECOND CUS THEYRE COOL LIKE THAT. OH YEA AND THEN THEY HAVE VIPERS, THESE MOTHERFUCKERS BASICALLY TURN EVERY ARMY COMPOSITION THAT THEY HAVE INTO AN UNSTOPPABLE A MOVING MACHINE. FUCKING RETARDED GAME GO SUCK A FUCKING DICK PIECE OF SHIT HOTS
This post needs to go down in TL history. This is beautiful TT1.
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On July 29 2013 14:27 Varuuna wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 13:48 TheRabidDeer wrote:On July 29 2013 12:58 TT1 wrote:
the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament I think an antihack launcher would break the terms of use as much as the hacks themselves. Tournament organizers could probably make a tool that buffers a few frames then takes a screenshot at random. The buffer being necessary since a hack developer could probably intercept the screenshot request, disable for an instant, then re-enable afterwards. This way though, if somebody is accused or suspected they have screenshots they can examine. Though this is tedious. Shouldnt break any rules though I dont think. Not sure how it would break any terms if it was made by Blizzard themselves. I already mentioned the possibility of this with their upcoming Blizzard Desktop Launcher on page 2 in this thread, but I guess most ignored it or missed it. EDIT: The other suggestion make it seems so complicated. If a MH have something to intercept the screenshot being taken, then it should be fairly obvious that he can't deliver a screenshot to tournament admins, which makes guilty. (If we assume that the program works every time). This also sounds difficult to do for online tournament, but for offline, is it really necessary? What about the FPVOD-times of BW? Why is that never being done? It's the same as standing behind players and checking their screens.
Blizzard already has warden. Automatic hack detection is really really hard. Which is why I mentioned my manual labor intensive solution. Let me explain it a bit more clearly, since I think you may have missed what I am saying:
You can have a hack that turns itself off, then back on. You can have it do this automatically if a call is heard to take a screenshot. So it turns itself off before the screenshot takes, then turns itself back on afterwards.
If you have a 20 frame buffer (that is to say, 20 frames from the past always stored and being overwritten, fraps has the option to use this for video recording in case you do something awesome, though I think it is like 20 seconds and not 20 frames) then these are things that have already passed. It cant be turned off, then back on after the screenshot happened.
Any hacks that are always on will always be seen. I imagine hacks would then be toggled instead of always on, but some will still get caught by chance with this.
To me, it is the best non-invasive, legal (AFAIK) method of seeing if somebody is hacking. Problem being, you have to use a person to look at each screenshot from every suspected person.
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On July 29 2013 14:55 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 14:27 Varuuna wrote:On July 29 2013 13:48 TheRabidDeer wrote:On July 29 2013 12:58 TT1 wrote:
the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament I think an antihack launcher would break the terms of use as much as the hacks themselves. Tournament organizers could probably make a tool that buffers a few frames then takes a screenshot at random. The buffer being necessary since a hack developer could probably intercept the screenshot request, disable for an instant, then re-enable afterwards. This way though, if somebody is accused or suspected they have screenshots they can examine. Though this is tedious. Shouldnt break any rules though I dont think. Not sure how it would break any terms if it was made by Blizzard themselves. I already mentioned the possibility of this with their upcoming Blizzard Desktop Launcher on page 2 in this thread, but I guess most ignored it or missed it. EDIT: The other suggestion make it seems so complicated. If a MH have something to intercept the screenshot being taken, then it should be fairly obvious that he can't deliver a screenshot to tournament admins, which makes guilty. (If we assume that the program works every time). This also sounds difficult to do for online tournament, but for offline, is it really necessary? What about the FPVOD-times of BW? Why is that never being done? It's the same as standing behind players and checking their screens. Blizzard already has warden. Automatic hack detection is really really hard. Which is why I mentioned my manual labor intensive solution. Let me explain it a bit more clearly, since I think you may have missed what I am saying: You can have a hack that turns itself off, then back on. You can have it do this automatically if a call is heard to take a screenshot. So it turns itself off before the screenshot takes, then turns itself back on afterwards. If you have a 20 frame buffer (that is to say, 20 frames from the past always stored and being overwritten, fraps has the option to use this for video recording in case you do something awesome, though I think it is like 20 seconds and not 20 frames) then these are things that have already passed. It cant be turned off, then back on after the screenshot happened. Any hacks that are always on will always be seen. I imagine hacks would then be toggled instead of always on, but some will still get caught by chance with this. To me, it is the best non-invasive, legal (AFAIK) method of seeing if somebody is hacking. Problem being, you have to use a person to look at each screenshot from every suspected person. I think I understand now what you mean. Your previous post, however, suggested that it would deny the screenshot being taken rather than the hack turning itself off.
On a different note, I'm more confused about something else I noticed in this thread; Hacks can be run on a remote computer to a different one? How does that work? I always thought hacks needed to hook onto the process on the comp itself.
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I feel like it's only a matter of time before everyone map hacks in online tournaments and nobody can say anything about it.
Who knows if this is prevalent now?
Anyone with brain can get away with suspicions with fake scouting
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On July 28 2013 22:41 Nerchio wrote:I played imbatoss in one of the cups and i thought the same, i think i even wrote to him he was streamcheating, but let's not jump to conclusions 
not to be a dick or anything, but werent people sure that you maphacked for quite a long time?
Turned out you didnt.
Im just saying, lets not jump to conclusions 
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On July 29 2013 15:20 Varuuna wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 14:55 TheRabidDeer wrote:On July 29 2013 14:27 Varuuna wrote:On July 29 2013 13:48 TheRabidDeer wrote:On July 29 2013 12:58 TT1 wrote:
the real question should be why hasnt anyone made an antihack launcher yet? ;;
its odd that blizzard hasnt dealt with this issue yet, especially when WCS is primarely an online tournament I think an antihack launcher would break the terms of use as much as the hacks themselves. Tournament organizers could probably make a tool that buffers a few frames then takes a screenshot at random. The buffer being necessary since a hack developer could probably intercept the screenshot request, disable for an instant, then re-enable afterwards. This way though, if somebody is accused or suspected they have screenshots they can examine. Though this is tedious. Shouldnt break any rules though I dont think. Not sure how it would break any terms if it was made by Blizzard themselves. I already mentioned the possibility of this with their upcoming Blizzard Desktop Launcher on page 2 in this thread, but I guess most ignored it or missed it. EDIT: The other suggestion make it seems so complicated. If a MH have something to intercept the screenshot being taken, then it should be fairly obvious that he can't deliver a screenshot to tournament admins, which makes guilty. (If we assume that the program works every time). This also sounds difficult to do for online tournament, but for offline, is it really necessary? What about the FPVOD-times of BW? Why is that never being done? It's the same as standing behind players and checking their screens. Blizzard already has warden. Automatic hack detection is really really hard. Which is why I mentioned my manual labor intensive solution. Let me explain it a bit more clearly, since I think you may have missed what I am saying: You can have a hack that turns itself off, then back on. You can have it do this automatically if a call is heard to take a screenshot. So it turns itself off before the screenshot takes, then turns itself back on afterwards. If you have a 20 frame buffer (that is to say, 20 frames from the past always stored and being overwritten, fraps has the option to use this for video recording in case you do something awesome, though I think it is like 20 seconds and not 20 frames) then these are things that have already passed. It cant be turned off, then back on after the screenshot happened. Any hacks that are always on will always be seen. I imagine hacks would then be toggled instead of always on, but some will still get caught by chance with this. To me, it is the best non-invasive, legal (AFAIK) method of seeing if somebody is hacking. Problem being, you have to use a person to look at each screenshot from every suspected person. I think I understand now what you mean. Your previous post, however, suggested that it would deny the screenshot being taken rather than the hack turning itself off. On a different note, I'm more confused about something else I noticed in this thread; Hacks can be run on a remote computer to a different one? How does that work? I always thought hacks needed to hook onto the process on the comp itself.
One time i saw on one CS 1.6 server something like that Admin forced screnshots that were automatically taken and saved to players pc after player get ban until he upload all screnshots that was taken on page... and admin checks .. if clear unban.
In this is force to player to do something and if he hacks he can try something like photoshop etc but it is clear everytime he use it.
Very effective and preventive way tho. No one need to analyze replays when he can do this to catch cheater of guard.
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Wouldn't it be normal to prove he is hacking from replays instead of asking him to prove he is not?
On July 29 2013 12:55 Trojanoz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 12:49 Manifesto7 wrote:On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran , i am never changing it so u cant tell me i ply other things when my oppnents goes hatch first or pool first , i sometimes go forge opening when i play against opponents like Bly , its not possible to hold his hatch first , gas pool with gate opening so i decided to go for a forge , and what knowme said that i went for 5 canons .. i know when somebody cnaon rush the expand of bly then he goes normally roaches and i also saw the roaches cuz they attacked my canons , so its not unnormal that i go for 5 canons, and also to mention that my micro is not good enough for my top16 gm , thats nothing u can talk about , in a hacker thread , what a joke , u can also be a high level player when ur micro sux ,the game vs nerchio he called me maphacker , cuz i hold his early pool and knew he went for mass speedlings cuz he had no expand what i scouted? is that maphacking? i dont think so , also the games vs strelok like mentioned , i know he is a mech plyer so he won't play bio at any time , so its easy to say when he will go for drops , to know the timings etc. thats important , and when u know ur opponent wel enough than u can hardcounter him ,also i culd bly call "maphacker" or other people cuz they hardcountered me , its a joke to say somebody is maphacking when he just know what his opponent is going for .. and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. Anyone who writes like this is a hacker. I assume this guy is German so it's a bit harsh to say this about someone communicating in their second language. Maybe writing a clear well worded response in their original language might reveal a more eloquent individual - the text above looks more like a SMS than proper English though.
Really? We don't all write in retard-style.
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No need to waste time making a program to detect maphacks. The authors of maphacks will find a way around it. It starts this back and forth that just leads to frustration. Tournaments need to train their admins to look for the type of behavior listed in the OP during the match. A set of eyes actually watching the match is far superior to any program.
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Should we write a petition to blizzard?
Should we write to Browder, Kim, other SCII team members?
Should we ask progamers to ask questions to blizz stuff on events?
Should we mass tweet/mail to blizz SCII team members?
No reaction from blizz is so frustrating.
At least ladder abusers should be banned. Ban waves are not so effective. Rare ban waves - not effective at all.
Played with this JuicyPeach, btw. (aka Farbauti).
There were some other MH's during my career. Not a lot, but pretty annoying quantity.
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On July 29 2013 17:25 Baarn wrote:
No need to waste time making a program to detect maphacks. The authors of maphacks will find a way around it. It starts this back and forth that just leads to frustration. Tournaments need to train their admins to look for the type of behavior listed in the OP during the match. A set of eyes actually watching the match is far superior to any program.
yes but it takes time to come up with a maphack that can bypass an antihack program, it takes alot of coding etc. in tsl2 tl had us play on some antihack program that i assume r1ch made so he would know alot more on this topic. im sure blizzard has the resources to hire 1 person to make them a new AH launcher for every new WCS season/tournament phase (i.e qualis/group stages/ro32 etc), that would put everyones mind at ease
but yes it would probably be extremely hard to have a general-based antihack program because it would require constant updating etc.. again this is only an assumption, i have no idea how much coding is required in order to have an updated AH on bnet. that being said the least that they can do is to implement one for bigger tourneys
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