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On July 29 2013 02:34 SearchEU wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran , i am never changing it so u cant tell me i ply other things when my oppnents goes hatch first or pool first , i sometimes go forge opening when i play against opponents like Bly , its not possible to hold his hatch first , gas pool with gate opening so i decided to go for a forge , and what knowme said that i went for 5 canons .. i know when somebody cnaon rush the expand of bly then he goes normally roaches and i also saw the roaches cuz they attacked my canons , so its not unnormal that i go for 5 canons, and also to mention that my micro is not good enough for my top16 gm , thats nothing u can talk about , in a hacker thread , what a joke , u can also be a high level player when ur micro sux ,the game vs nerchio he called me maphacker , cuz i hold his early pool and knew he went for mass speedlings cuz he had no expand what i scouted? is that maphacking? i dont think so , also the games vs strelok like mentioned , i know he is a mech plyer so he won't play bio at any time , so its easy to say when he will go for drops , to know the timings etc. thats important , and when u know ur opponent wel enough than u can hardcounter him ,also i culd bly call "maphacker" or other people cuz they hardcountered me , its a joke to say somebody is maphacking when he just know what his opponent is going for .. and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. Worst formatting ever.
Yeah. I just couldn't read it.
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Reminds me of themista. When streaming, no weird blind counters or odd builds. Not streaming, weird build counters, perfect drop stops lol.
On July 29 2013 03:26 2v2 NexuS wrote:
why you dont prove what you say? i mean everybody can say that somebody hacks...
Nice first post defending a hacker....also from germany...also 1 post...
2on2 imbatoss
2v2 nexus
...lol really?
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I also lost to a maphacker in WCS qualifiers, blizzard arent doing too much about it sadly
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+1 for imbatoss maphacking.
rallied his observer to his mineral line vs an unscouted proxy dt tech. very suspicious warp ins at key places.
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iAmJeffReY u kiding right? ye there are only 1 german guy in this country that plays 2vs2.... gj *facepalm*
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Map hack is one of the big reasons that SC2 is dying.
Blizzard isn't just spending the right amount of resources to improve their customer satisfaction and esports possibility of SC2
They are blind-sighted, spending millions dollars on WCS which is a huge failure compared to amount of money they put on
Instead, why don't they work on the FUNDAMENTALS? Like.. actually having a legitimate game that is fair for everyone?
This is why failure of SC2 is inevitable, blizzard is just DUMB. I don't want it to be dumb. But truth of the matter is, blizzard is ran by hopeless people that don't prioritize what's important and what's not.
SAD SAD SAD
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On July 29 2013 04:05 2v2 NexuS wrote:
iAmJeffReY u kiding right? ye there are only 1 german guy in this country that plays 2vs2.... gj *facepalm*
lol similar names, similar post count, similar grammar and word usage.
Obvious 2v2 partner, or same user. Good try though, defending your hacking friend!
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On July 29 2013 03:53 TargA wrote:
I also lost to a maphacker in WCS qualifiers, blizzard arent doing too much about it sadly
Who? I heard alastor might also be maphacking
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iAmJeffReY ure not the smartest guy he? pls look in my matchhistory (NexuS#1611) i didnt play with him any time... i just obsed some games from him cause i heard he the same ...
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if u guys wanna prove or achieve something u should be more objective (like posting reps + explanation or w/e)
i cannot jugde how obvious a hacker can be determined by playing him and thereby getting the feeling that it must be the only solution.
but if u dont want to let it look like a witch hunt u have to get more concrete myb?
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If you dont hack, Imbatoss, why don't you just upload your last 50 games as replays - unfiltered. That way you could kind of proof, that you are not maphacking - not 100% of course, but it would show, that you are willing to proof yourself, instead of just promoting your twitch channel.
If you hack, pls get of SC2. If you do not, I whish all the best 
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On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
ok first of all i have to tell u , that i have a very strange playstyle and my own style , but is that something u can judge me for ? no u cant , and also i am playing everygame the same opening , vs every race a special opening , its my own bo and i am not changing it , 2 zealots and a mothership core vs zerg , 3 stalker opening vs toss , 1gate expand with chrono boost on the stalker vs terran ,
I just had a look at your twitch channel which u can find a single VOD so far.DIdn't u say that you're playing the same builds every game ? Doesn't seem like it for me tbh. Ah,and what kind of build is it u played there? Seemed just kinda random,but it worked out in that game,what a surprise :O
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Such noobs, need to maphack to win and feel better about themselves.
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Hm. Can't people who've played vs him upload all the suspicious vods, post them here and then the community can go through them and see if the case is strengthened or weakened by them? Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but if Blizzard isn't doing anything about it then certainly they'll get banned by leagues.
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On July 29 2013 04:23 Heartland wrote:
Hm. Can't people who've played vs him upload all the suspicious vods, post them here and then the community can go through them and see if the case is strengthened or weakened by them? Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but if Blizzard isn't doing anything about it then certainly they'll get banned by leagues.
Yeah, that would be good first step imho Isn't there a thread dedicated to it?
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not quite sure what i should think about imbatoss... he was a low gm player in WoL, who only all-inned 1 base or 2 base. never thought he would maphack... now he is top 16 and has a 72% winrate in PvP although his mechanics didnt really improve.
so either he gained an INSANE gameknowledge or hes maphacking.
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I also think that ImbaToss is hacking. He always wins PvP (very coinflippy matchup with luck involved). A lots of blind countering and I agree his micro is crap. I turned off replay saving but I will search for games vs him to upload here.
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maphack is fog of war removal right?
i think in old BW custom map, a way to kick maphackers, was to put a cannon owned by players on the low ground, and then a hostile computer controlled building on the high ground
so if a player has a maphack, their cannon will automatically attack the hostile computer building (which normal players should not see)
then the custom map kicks that player for maphacking
Have maphacks become more advanced to bypass that?
I mean it was quite simple back in the day...to do that in that custom map
All Blizzard has to do is put something like that in every ladder map, and auto kicks if detects maphack from a player
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Good night everyone,
someone asked if Imbatoss ever went to an offlinetournament. And I can say definetly no.
As it seems Imbatoss is from munich , because he played for Munich in the BCON-Clash. there were explicit rules , that only munich players or munich barcraft visitors are allowed to participate at the BCON-Clash. As I am from munich myself I really can't say that he has ever been to such an event.
And something I should mention ist the MST- Munich Starcraft Tournament. It's a pretty big LAN in Munich and players like AcRo regurlarly participate at it. Someone like Imbatoss should actually participate at such an event, because he is TOP 20 GM right?
So it's pretty suspicious non the less..
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