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AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
August 11 2013 07:59 GMT
#381
On August 11 2013 16:29 SpecialistSc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 16:14 intense555 wrote:
I really hope this imbatoss guy dies a horrible death.


wow


Lol.... Personally I hope someone puts "imbatoss" behind bars, because if its true that he hacks in tournaments like everyone says and wins money with it he is doing a scam. That cant be legal..
i balance whine all the time.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
August 11 2013 09:10 GMT
#382
On August 11 2013 16:59 AyaaLa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 16:29 SpecialistSc wrote:
On August 11 2013 16:14 intense555 wrote:
I really hope this imbatoss guy dies a horrible death.


wow


Lol.... Personally I hope someone puts "imbatoss" behind bars, because if its true that he hacks in tournaments like everyone says and wins money with it he is doing a scam. That cant be legal..

behind bars for cheating in a video game tournament? never ever ever happen

depending on what type of contract/agreement players are required to consent to upon joining the tournament, they may be able to sue for the prize money. a good lawyer might also be able to get a small sum of damages for wrecking the credibility of the tournament, which could hurt tournaments' viewerships and sponsorships.

but jail? i don't see how that is even remotely possible
RnR_TeSLa
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden7 Posts
August 11 2013 10:19 GMT
#383
It might be considered embezzlement
Never fight a battle you can't win...
nAnO!
Profile Joined February 2013
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 13:03:20
August 12 2013 12:36 GMT
#384
there is also no point in streaming imbatoss. maphacks can be hidden on stream so that doesnt prove anything

hacker on #1 ladder eu and blizz isnt doing anything
Atleast i hope for some kind of justification from the blizz team

i hope you die a in a hole retard imbatoss
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
August 12 2013 12:43 GMT
#385
On August 11 2013 05:57 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
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On August 11 2013 05:38 crappyleft wrote:
On August 11 2013 03:31 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote:
This is just for u guys , u were my inspiring

[image loading]




You somehow forgot to mention the 15+ free wins you got from kas on the ladder. For obvious reasons he decided not to play against you. It's weird that you come here bragging about your ladder rank without mentioning the fact that you got ~200 points for free.



It was EmpireHappy not Kas , and it was just 11 wins man next time use some true informations

It's funny cause you are like acting total badass but you arent worth anything :D
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 18:42:19
August 13 2013 11:44 GMT
#386
So, instead of posting shit with no meat in it here, start collecting replays and thoroughly analyze them. I am not able to do that because i don't have that much game knowledge, but some gm/pro players should be able to do it.
Start with the replays which got him 75€: http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/go4sc2/august2013_premium1/match/28780068/http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/go4sc2/august2013_premium1/match/28780068/

With no real evidence/proof (= a collection of current replays) it is very hard to punish someone. But besides that, it is very sad that blizzard doesn't even post something along the lines "we are investigating" or something like that.

edit: okay talked to monty, replays are no evidence for maphacking.
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
Kyselin
Profile Joined December 2011
France35 Posts
August 17 2013 08:21 GMT
#387
Hey by the way,
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_BCON_Clash
200€ for Imbatoss.
How come he is not banned from ESL and is still able to compete in it ?
ImBaTosS.SC2
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 18:36:12
August 17 2013 18:35 GMT
#388
On August 17 2013 17:21 Kyselin wrote:
Hey by the way,
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_BCON_Clash
200€ for Imbatoss.
How come he is not banned from ESL and is still able to compete in it ?


wow great reaction time man , i am proud of u.
And about esl , they are just smarter then u guys and they dont believe every rumor thats going around.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
August 17 2013 18:55 GMT
#389
TO be fair, and he may well be cheating, but everyone said they thought Nerchio might be map hacking back in the day, but then he put out solid non-online results as well which eventually shut people up.

While it's not specific to this Imbatoss guy, there have been rumours about people who could be hacking but are just good.
HOLY CHECK!
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 17 2013 18:56 GMT
#390
On July 28 2013 23:02 nGBeast wrote:
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On July 28 2013 22:49 grs wrote:
On July 28 2013 22:47 krazykoz wrote:
IMO, the best way to combat this in online competitions is to have blizzard/tournament organizers create a simple program that players must run on their machine when they choose to compete in those tournaments and it would allow an admin to view any active programs. Given it is the player's choice to enter those tournaments, it wouldn't be a privacy situation as those players could choose to not enter the tournaments.

By limiting it to the tournament scene, there would not be as much incentive for hackers to find a way around that program as most hacks are developed for general use on ladder where they reach a broader audience.

Legally and technically impractical. Also the assumption, that hacks are developed for ladder only, is not right. There are players using this for money.



ESEA does it

Bringing ESEA as an exemplary standard for legal software is a joke at best.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Durmaz21
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden52 Posts
August 17 2013 19:03 GMT
#391
On August 18 2013 03:35 ImBaTosS.SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 17:21 Kyselin wrote:
Hey by the way,
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_BCON_Clash
200€ for Imbatoss.
How come he is not banned from ESL and is still able to compete in it ?


wow great reaction time man , i am proud of u.
And about esl , they are just smarter then u guys and they dont believe every rumor thats going around.

How did it feel to get kicked of your team?

You shouldn't be upset though. You're such a talented player, I'm sure you have so many offers you don't even know which one to accept
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:13:55
August 17 2013 19:13 GMT
#392
On August 18 2013 03:55 Lonyo wrote:
TO be fair, and he may well be cheating, but everyone said they thought Nerchio might be map hacking back in the day, but then he put out solid non-online results as well which eventually shut people up.

While it's not specific to this Imbatoss guy, there have been rumours about people who could be hacking but are just good.


Im not saying Nerchio did hack, but having offline results means nothing in those situations. Maphack wont make you 10 times better (or total trash without using it) unless you are so blatant that everyone knows you are hacking (like Gerudo / FnaticTricky who had platinum mechanics and played on GM for a long time).
oo
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 19:47:57
August 17 2013 19:46 GMT
#393
On August 18 2013 04:13 ( bush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:55 Lonyo wrote:
TO be fair, and he may well be cheating, but everyone said they thought Nerchio might be map hacking back in the day, but then he put out solid non-online results as well which eventually shut people up.

While it's not specific to this Imbatoss guy, there have been rumours about people who could be hacking but are just good.


Im not saying Nerchio did hack, but having offline results means nothing in those situations. Maphack wont make you 10 times better (or total trash without using it) unless you are so blatant that everyone knows you are hacking (like Gerudo / FnaticTricky who had platinum mechanics and played on GM for a long time).

This entirely. It's how people boost names at a high level most times. Maphack, or production tab, and already high masters/gm skills. A lot comes in the surprises of certain attacks, if you can stop a lot of the all ins, and always have build advantages with already decently high skills, you'll be able to hide it well and crush face fast for your $s/wins
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
August 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#394
so how do we get this moron banned? he's blatantly hacking and brags about it here on TL. Can't believe he's not received life-time ban yet.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
August 17 2013 21:56 GMT
#395
actually i have proof, where he admits hacking and laughs about ESL and stuff
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
August 18 2013 08:57 GMT
#396
On August 18 2013 06:56 myRZeth wrote:
actually i have proof, where he admits hacking and laughs about ESL and stuff


can you post it?
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
August 18 2013 10:44 GMT
#397
This is another unfortunate reason barely anyone watches/cares about online tournaments, they're as illegitimate as an NA player in WCS KR. There are definitely a lot more that aren't obvious enough to get caught.
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
Diderick
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands298 Posts
August 18 2013 10:47 GMT
#398
At first I did believe he might be playing fair, but the posts Imbatoss made here prove for 100% he is a maphacker, only a real maphacker would talk like that. Hope you get caught and banned soon!
eNjiin
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany27 Posts
August 18 2013 14:55 GMT
#399
On August 18 2013 19:47 Diderick wrote:
At first I did believe he might be playing fair, but the posts Imbatoss made here prove for 100% he is a maphacker, only a real maphacker would talk like that. Hope you get caught and banned soon!


The funny fact is that he is still participating at tournaments like todays go4sc2.... He played vs a team mate in round 4 and sometimes he just was "afk" during the game, where the camera just didnt move. For #1 GM he has so low Apm and such a bad macro. He just makes really good decisions based on nearly zero scout with a mid-high master ability to macro I would say...
FetusThrower
Profile Joined August 2013
United States50 Posts
August 18 2013 15:33 GMT
#400
Well he'll be fighting Nerchio soon in the current Go4sc2 cup. If he beats him 2-0, we can also ask for some replays from desrow if he gets that far.

People are saying he uses auto hotkeys when he plays as well (not really sure if that's true at all), but easily accessible stuff.

Rooting for desRow to punish him, I don't believe some rando is going to put him down legitimately.
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