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Hey again, all.
I've played imbatoss in a ladder today and went for the tactic that would expose him the most.
I will post the replay in my comment below.
So first look at the early game, how he wont scout my main with his probe because there are 2 lings standing up the ramp.
After he holds my nydus at about 18:00 min, a queen is running to the left side of the map, completley far away from his army and vision, and yet he moves his army to the left and snipes it.
He also did blind counter to my nydus swarm host build teching straight to colossus and cutting probes, some of you may think he was going for colossus allin, but that's why I did a fake roach attack before nydus/swarm host to force out immortal, but maphack owns 
So here's the replay, very obvious maphack from him, that was my plan when i met him in ladder, to go the tactic that he would counter very obvious and we would have more proof.
So here's the replay. http://drop.sc/353103
P.S: Blizzard, please ban hackers like ImBaTosS and actually care about this game just A LITTLE BIT.
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I guess everyone should just find ImbaToss on the GM ladder and report him. One hundred reports will definately look suspicious to Blizzard. Does he ladder under the same name?
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On August 05 2013 23:15 Starbuck- wrote:Hey again, all. I've played imbatoss in a ladder today and went for the tactic that would expose him the most. I will post the replay in my comment below. So first look at the early game, how he wont scout my main with his probe because there are 2 lings standing up the ramp. After he holds my nydus at about 18:00 min, a queen is running to the left side of the map, completley far away from his army and vision, and yet he moves his army to the left and snipes it. He also did blind counter to my nydus swarm host build teching straight to colossus and cutting probes, some of you may think he was going for colossus allin, but that's why I did a fake roach attack before nydus/swarm host to force out immortal, but maphack owns So here's the replay, very obvious maphack from him, that was my plan when i met him in ladder, to go the tactic that he would counter very obvious and we would have more proof. So here's the replay. http://drop.sc/353103P.S: Blizzard, please ban hackers like ImBaTosS and actually care about this game just A LITTLE BIT.
The problem is the cycle always repeats itself and Blizzard doesn't want to put the resources into it. It's a band-aid approach and it's always been that way. It comes with the territory. So even if Blizzard does a little something it comes right back. :/ I hope there comes a day when we don't have online competition anymore and everything is done from a booth for the big time players anyway. You want to qualify for a league? You come out to qualifiers and let's see what you got in person.
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After he holds my nydus at about 18:00 min, a queen is running to the left side of the map, completley far away from his army and vision, and yet he moves his army to the left and snipes it. So here's the replay. http://drop.sc/353103
Another "lucky" scout by imbatoss when he moves his probe at 22:20 min :D
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played some match vs imbatoss and got blind counter in pvp - but this is the way pvp sometimes works so i guess it's not the best "example"
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On August 05 2013 23:15 Starbuck- wrote:Hey again, all. I've played imbatoss in a ladder today and went for the tactic that would expose him the most. I will post the replay in my comment below. So first look at the early game, how he wont scout my main with his probe because there are 2 lings standing up the ramp. After he holds my nydus at about 18:00 min, a queen is running to the left side of the map, completley far away from his army and vision, and yet he moves his army to the left and snipes it. He also did blind counter to my nydus swarm host build teching straight to colossus and cutting probes, some of you may think he was going for colossus allin, but that's why I did a fake roach attack before nydus/swarm host to force out immortal, but maphack owns So here's the replay, very obvious maphack from him, that was my plan when i met him in ladder, to go the tactic that he would counter very obvious and we would have more proof. So here's the replay. http://drop.sc/353103P.S: Blizzard, please ban hackers like ImBaTosS and actually care about this game just A LITTLE BIT.
To be perfectly honest, I find that there's not a single proof for a maphack in that replay. I've watched it twice and your "key points" even more times.
EDIT: nevermind, I forgot that I'm new on the forums and from Germany, hence I'm probably Imbatoss himself.
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now imbatoss and juicypeach created a team "EEP" "Elite European Players" sounds interesting !
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Blizzard are always slow with everything that doesn't loose them money, Bans probably wont happen that often.
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On August 06 2013 04:49 kaup wrote:
now imbatoss and juicypeach created a team "EEP" "Elite European Players" sounds interesting !
Yep, look here for all: http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/go4sc2/august2013_premium1/rankings/
Interesting. Can we assume every other player that is in the team / joins the team hacks aswell, and they are just mass trolling blizzard?
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Apparently he is in the general chat ingame and saying:
[EEP] ImBaTosS: if someone likes to get a better league in his profile then u can just write me and i play ur account in every league u want
![[image loading]](http://www.raceinfo.no/temp/imbatoss.jpg)
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On August 02 2013 21:08 Everlong wrote:
Please, don't ban ImbaToss, his desperate endeavor to save his ass keeps me off coffee in work. I might lose my addiction in a week.
not sure if troll or serius lol.
on topic: i would like to see maby a system where people who are reported a X amount of time for maphacking an amount of replays would be released to see for further proof for events. maby that would solve some stuff.
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If I were Imbatoss I would be laughing at the helplessness of this community, and rightfully so.
I even think threads like this might be counterproductive because the only thing that people might take away from it is that maphacking etc. has no (serious) consequences whatsoever and if you smart about it people will circlejerk forever if there is “definitive proof” followed by pages of philosophical discussion what “definitive proof” really is and if there actually can be something like that.
It’s ridiculous and would be very amusing (for a maphacker it certainly is) if it wasn’t so sad.
I honestly don’t know what to do, obviously neither making threads, nor reports to blizzard have any real impact at all. Demands for effective “anti-cheating” software have died away unheard for 3 years, so obviously these concerns are taken very seriously by blizzard…
So what's really left to do?
- Stop playing and boycott Blizzard? If enough people do it maybe then something gets done (since the only language a company understands is money).
- Try to get the attention of some people who actually have some influence in the community and connections to blizzard. (/summon Totalbiscuit) Maybe it would already help if the topic is brought up in interviews or streams once in a while.
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On July 29 2013 01:51 [F_]aths wrote:
Online tournaments could require to run a program which takes screenshots in a random pattern and sends them to the admins. There is no need to run a program which scans the tasklist for suspicious programs. Screenshots, automatically taken and sent to the admins, should be enough.
Sounds like a PERFECT solution to me!
Somebody please explain why not use it?
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They will just run the maphack on a 2nd monitor then?
They should just run a punkbuster like program looking for the background activities.
Its complete bs that this is not possible for privacy reasons, they can just make everyone who joins a tourney give permission to do so and if they dont want give permission then they cant play in the tourney.
Or else remove the fog completely lol, it would be a different game then but still a verry interesting one, lots more about strategic decissions and army control instead of depending on "luck" by getting an unscouted killing blow or techswitch.
Scouting itself already depends so much on luck, like terran scan doesnt see all and probe looking across the map but never able to check every spot.
Map vission is verry unfair distributed amongst the races btw.
Zerg seeing a quarter to halve+ of the map with their cloaked tumors and overlords, while toss and specially terran play completely in the dark in the early midgame, but i guess that rant is more suited for another thread
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On August 07 2013 17:49 dr.fahrenheit wrote:
[*]Try to get the attention of some people who actually have some influence in the community and connections to blizzard. (/summon Totalbiscuit) Maybe it would already help if the topic is brought up in interviews or streams once in a while.
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thats the way to go, constant talk about hackers on ladder in each interview of each tournament, will force blizzard to do something
btw hackertoss now top 5 gm !!! :D
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Check imbatoss match history. he got a lot of free wins .seems legit :D
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On August 07 2013 18:38 Alex1Sun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:51 [F_]aths wrote:
Online tournaments could require to run a program which takes screenshots in a random pattern and sends them to the admins. There is no need to run a program which scans the tasklist for suspicious programs. Screenshots, automatically taken and sent to the admins, should be enough. Sounds like a PERFECT solution to me! Somebody please explain why not use it?
coders will rewrite the hack so it turns itself off for a moment when the screenshot is taken. this has been done in counterstrike already. it's a nice idea, but can be worked around.
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Oh hey another map hack thread?
Whats the point?
Not like Blizzard will do anything about it.
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just quit sc2 while you can... faster the better
blizzard is simply hopeless
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