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On July 29 2013 04:05 2v2 NexuS wrote:
iAmJeffReY u kiding right? ye there are only 1 german guy in this country that plays 2vs2.... gj *facepalm*
I know, that this post is quite a few days old, but I just searched through ImbaToss' streaming sessions and found this:
![[image loading]](http://image-upload.de/image/7Espn1/d7ed9c4100.png)
The picture was taken from ImBaTosS' first streaming session 4 days ago, you can also see the time in the bottom of it.
I highly doubt this guy is not a close mate of ImBaTosS.
Just wanted to clarify this and thanks for reading.
Greets! 
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I like how this dumbass said that i was paranoid as i just explained him you people would believe that he was in fact imbatoss
Anyway Strelok, did you try to reach blizzard again about this issue ?
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Just Another thing:
Im following this thread from the beginning now. Iin Wol times i met Imbatoss severall times in 2v2 and was wondering how lucky he was by countering my builds.
anyway i didnt want to say he hacks without real proofs. Then i saw that jogginghose found that AHK icon in Imbatoss stream, but Imbatoss said this doesnt have anything to do with a hack.
So i decided to search for that hack and check myself what kind of icon it shows and so on. But now the strange thing. A new Update of the Hack was released today with following Patchnotes :D :
• The below features are NOT required to be safe from Warden or Blizzard!!!
They were simply requested by a user and I was bored.
The program's ICON can be changed to a user selected .ico file
+ The program's/process name can set by the user
- This may prevent updates being downloaded correctly (haven't tested)
+ The icon used in the embedded AHK executable has been changed to a standard application icon
- This embedded AHK runs only during a voice announcement.
- Its process name will still be listed as AutoHotkey.exe during the announcement (I see no reason to alter this).
fucking funny huh? just think about that and what jogginghose found out.
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I really hope blizz adds something similar this, while this doesn't catch all the cheaters, it does filter out alot of them.
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Something similar to overwatch in sc2 would be very cool. The issue comes up however if the player being watches is high on the ladder. It might allow for bias to come into play but maybe not. Would be cool to see time bans as a result in addition to the warden sweeps every so often.
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On August 01 2013 00:50 -IeZaeL- wrote:
I caught Imbatoss maphacking 1 year ago when we played for the same team ( Img ) was in a go4sc2 vs HyuN. HyuN started with a 8pool+banelings and ImbaToss ( withouth any scout) made a perfect wall with gate+forge+canons at his ramp xD.
Proof: After 30-50 secs of game he had his nexus selected and then he had NOTHING selected. U can do this only if the unit u have selected dies. At this time HyuN was doing the 8pool........ gg. BUG? I dont think so.
hey, this is actually big deal. Now that I think about it there is pretty much no way to have a friendly unit/building unselected (I guess the enemy unit gets unselected if it leaves your vision?) unless it dies or you change the selection. It could actually be a useful tip for a warden. Not that it won't get patched by hacks but it will do their job much harder, and potentially there may be no way to mask enemy unit selection through FoW and hackers will need to refrain from clicking enemy units/buildings through it or they will get busted. Does anyone around here communicate with blizzard employees on the antihacks issue to pass the idea over?
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On August 02 2013 17:13 Plagiator wrote:Just Another thing: Im following this thread from the beginning now. Iin Wol times i met Imbatoss severall times in 2v2 and was wondering how lucky he was by countering my builds. anyway i didnt want to say he hacks without real proofs. Then i saw that jogginghose found that AHK icon in Imbatoss stream, but Imbatoss said this doesnt have anything to do with a hack. So i decided to search for that hack and check myself what kind of icon it shows and so on. But now the strange thing. A new Update of the Hack was released today with following Patchnotes :D : Show nested quote +
• The below features are NOT required to be safe from Warden or Blizzard!!!
They were simply requested by a user and I was bored.
The program's ICON can be changed to a user selected .ico file
+ The program's/process name can set by the user
- This may prevent updates being downloaded correctly (haven't tested)
+ The icon used in the embedded AHK executable has been changed to a standard application icon
- This embedded AHK runs only during a voice announcement.
- Its process name will still be listed as AutoHotkey.exe during the announcement (I see no reason to alter this).
fucking funny huh? just think about that and what jogginghose found out.
That's indeed very funny, lol.
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Please, don't ban ImbaToss, his desperate endeavor to save his ass keeps me off coffee in work. I might lose my addiction in a week.
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On August 02 2013 20:57 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 00:50 -IeZaeL- wrote:
I caught Imbatoss maphacking 1 year ago when we played for the same team ( Img ) was in a go4sc2 vs HyuN. HyuN started with a 8pool+banelings and ImbaToss ( withouth any scout) made a perfect wall with gate+forge+canons at his ramp xD.
Proof: After 30-50 secs of game he had his nexus selected and then he had NOTHING selected. U can do this only if the unit u have selected dies. At this time HyuN was doing the 8pool........ gg. BUG? I dont think so. hey, this is actually big deal. Now that I think about it there is pretty much no way to have a friendly unit/building unselected (I guess the enemy unit gets unselected if it leaves your vision?) unless it dies or you change the selection. It could actually be a useful tip for a warden. Not that it won't get patched by hacks but it will do their job much harder, and potentially there may be no way to mask enemy unit selection through FoW and hackers will need to refrain from clicking enemy units/buildings through it or they will get busted. Does anyone around here communicate with blizzard employees on the antihacks issue to pass the idea over?
Actually you can deselect the unit by shift-clicking on it... It happened today to me at the begin while setting nexus hotkey, I went
click
shift(hold)
click(misslick)
5
and I stood 5 seconds at the screen wondering what just happened
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Bliz need to do something, also about the drop hacks
More then 50% of the games i win i get drop hacked and the game wont show up in my score, it is getting realy annoying and i definatly wont buy the next expansion because of this.
Like this game i played the other day, went 7 pool (this is 4x4) and both of their sides went full wall with cannons without scouting it. Then next is midgame and one of their guys blinked all his stalkers perfectly (wich is impossible for the level of my opponents) so blink micro hack.
Somehow we still managed to win, even though they had perfect counters all the time (prob because they expoed realy late due to their wall ins) and then in the end "droppped" can only choose "surrender" to get out of the lock up
So extremely annyoing
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On August 03 2013 01:09 Rassy wrote:
Bliz need to do something, also about the drop hacks
More then 50% of the games i win i get drop hacked and the game wont show up in my score, it is getting realy annoying and i definatly wont buy the next expansion because of this.
If you drop more than 50% of games it's more realistic that it's because of your internet connection.... I dropped 5-6 games in hundreds of them...
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On August 03 2013 01:09 Rassy wrote:Bliz need to do something, also about the drop hacks More then 50% of the games i win i get drop hacked and the game wont show up in my score, it is getting realy annoying and i definatly wont buy the next expansion because of this. Like this game i played the other day, went 7 pool (this is 4x4) and both of their sides went full wall with cannons without scouting it. Then next is midgame and one of their guys blinked all his stalkers perfectly (wich is impossible for the level of my opponents) so blink micro hack. Somehow we still managed to win, even though they had perfect counters all the time (prob because they expoed realy late due to their wall ins) and then in the end "droppped" can only choose "surrender" to get out of the lock up So extremely annyoing
Sure man, 50% of the player use drophack! Seems logic!
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On August 03 2013 01:09 Rassy wrote:Bliz need to do something, also about the drop hacks More then 50% of the games i win i get drop hacked and the game wont show up in my score, it is getting realy annoying and i definatly wont buy the next expansion because of this. Like this game i played the other day, went 7 pool (this is 4x4) and both of their sides went full wall with cannons without scouting it. Then next is midgame and one of their guys blinked all his stalkers perfectly (wich is impossible for the level of my opponents) so blink micro hack. Somehow we still managed to win, even though they had perfect counters all the time (prob because they expoed realy late due to their wall ins) and then in the end "droppped" can only choose "surrender" to get out of the lock up So extremely annyoing
If you're playing 4v4, you know currently it's bugged and both teams get a loss every game, right? Has been confirmed by blizzard, and nothing to do with drophack:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1jj5zo/psa_all_4v4_matches_are_ending_in_losses_for_both/
I don't get when people say drophack is so prevalent; I've played thousands of ladder games, both 1v1 and team games, and have never been dropped/drophacked; maybe dropped a couple times, but it always turned out to be my own internet connection. I know there have been drophacks that have come into existence on and off, but it's always been fairly isolated from what I can tell, and blizzard has been pretty quick about banning both the users and the specific exploits (e.g. a private hacker uses a non-public drophack it to get to the top of GM, then is banned a couple days later, then the drophack is fixed in the next patch).
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Hmm maybe you are right and its a bug, it still is verry annoying though.
Sure man, 50% of the player use drophack! Seems logic!
Only one on the team does need to hack, so it would be 12.5%. Dont understand why people would drophack or cheat in 4x4 since there is nothing to win there. Will check bliz forum next time about bugs before posting about them.
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On August 03 2013 02:18 Rassy wrote:
Hmm maybe you are right and its a bug, it still is verry annoying though.
Sure man, 50% of the player use drophack! Seems logic!
Only one on the team does need to hack, so it would be 12.5%. Dont understand why people would drophack or cheat in 4x4 since there is nothing to win there. Will check bliz forum next time about bugs before posting about them.
I still don't buy that anywhere near 12.5% of players are using a drophack. I literally have never been drophacked in three years and quite a few thousand games of ladder, and I play quite often. Like I said above, I know drophacks have existed, but they usually get patched very soon after they're revealed, and they're usually revealed in very public ways because top pros start getting drophacked by the same guy on stream when it happens and it often makes it onto teamliquid.
I'm no programmer, but from what I understand, maphacks are so prevalent because it's very easy to update them for every new patch; new patches "break" maphacks in very superficial ways that are easily fixed. Drophacks are much more difficult to even create because there needs to be a new exploit/method every time. That's why we only hear of drophacks every few months (or even years), because for long stretches of time there are no drophacks in existence until someone figures out a new method. And given that a new patch just came out, the odds that are you have gotten drophacked I would say are just about 0.
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Maphacking in an online tournament that rewards you money is just pathetic and sad. It should even be a crime imo.
You're stripping other people from their rightful money.
Truly a sad human being you are imbatoss.
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to be honest a good percantage of mackhackers/past negative players are protoss(and terran)
wonder why that trend. I guess P benefits most form hacks because of hardcounters
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I've played a lot of games that have left me feeling very suspicious and demoralized. Getting hard-countered with minimal scouting, and perfect enemy interceptions at all times will do that to you... I think the problem is a lot more widespread, and definitely more present (platinum+) then people care to admit. The very fact that macro can be automated through undetectable hacks makes me feel like this game should be more automated. Maybe everyone should get auto-casting for queen injects, much easier scouting, and automatic unit queues to even the playing field. Maybe they could add more interesting micro to the game/sim city to make micro more important to fill in the gap. I think this is a good reason to get WC 4 rolling out, focusing more on micro will take a lot of the advantages away from the hackers. It's frustrating when you lose, and you can't even be sure that they're hacking. I can't imagine how people who are investing all their time to compete must feel when online tournaments are not even safe and Blizzard does nothing about it.
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Guys this isn't a place to report your hacks, there is another thread for that. Also, how is Strelok's blizz communication going?
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