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Only TeamLeague -> ProLeague
Only Individual Leage -> GSL
WCS -> I dont really care as long as there is MLG, Dreamhack ..
My 2 cents and what i'd want to see :/
Since CS has been introduced my interest for SC2 dropped immensly .. i followed every GSL since SC2 came out until that point. Right now it's just way too much going on ... the weird OSL format was the last nail on the coffin for me...
I watch the Premier tournament occasinally atm. and my dimishing interest in SC2 might be connected to the better weather over summer but hell ... it just feels to much, to cluttered ..
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On July 23 2013 06:19 forumtext wrote:
The bigger the exposure, the bigger the sponsorship.
The problem is not with sponsor's bankroll, the issue is that most company no longer thinks SC2 is worth investing on a large scale.
I think this is especially true for proleague, since it's kind of restricted to Korea and they really do not take good care of foreign fans. Kespa has pushed brood war players to near perfection and will do the same for sc2, but skill is not what sponsors are really interested in.
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I don't think that any eSF team right now would move over to Kespa. From my point of view, there are huge bounds connecting those teams, still stronger than Kespa's call.
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On July 23 2013 06:27 TeeTS wrote:
I don't think that any eSF team right now would move over to Kespa. From my point of view, there are huge bounds connecting those teams, still stronger than Kespa's call.
There are barely any eSF teams left though. Like what is left? Startale, LG-IM, Prime, MVP and FXO. eSF as an organization seems to be pretty much useless right now, to be perfectly honest. They don't seem to do anything. When Kespa teams disbanded, they salvaged them as T8 and found a sponsor after several years. NSHS is disbanding next month, and basically nobody gives a fuck. Kespa has their own qualifiers for tournaments, they have the more prestigious brand names in terms of Korean Starcraft, they have much more television exposure then eSF/GomTV could ever provide. Frankly, at this point it seems (from an outside perspective) that eSF is doing nothing and it is a sinking ship.
Of course, we know nothing about what is really going on, but really, when did we hear about eSF as an organization last time?
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If Kespa is integrating more with LoL, then MVP will probably join Kespa given MVP currently fields the best LoL team in Korea
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It seems absurd to ask this but what is the bar graph measuring? Thousands of {currency here}?
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On July 23 2013 06:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
It seems absurd to ask this but what is the bar graph measuring? Thousands of {currency here}?
Millions of US dollars--huge oversight
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I just wish all the good teams would compete in one SPL/GSTL hybrid.
SPL is the best teamleague by far, mostly because it features proleague format throughout most games (which is better than winner's league because of preparation imo) and just has regular matches.
GSTL is too much of a joke, just 7 matches for the 'season' and then just a winner's league playoffs where anything can happen and some teams don;t even have all their best players like Genius not playing because he is trying to qualify for WCS...
SPL with EG/TL dropped (the team is nice because it's affiliated to this site but the quality of players is subpar just jaedong and hero that are relatively good with taeja being injured too much) leaves 7 teams. I'd love to see 3 GSTL teams enter SPL: startale, azubu and lgim. These are the only teams big enough and good enough to compete in SPL imo and i'd love to see them compete there, just a shame that the top scene for sc2 is a bit fragmented now.
We have SPL where all the top players except about 10ish players compete and we have WCS korea where the top except 5 or so players compete. I just wish the best players would naturally be able to compete in the highest competition so we get to see the best games, not have the top players smeared out so we only have the chance to see the ultimate competition at seasonal finals etc.
As for the OP, I don;t think the size of the sponsor company matters much at all. You can;t gauge at all how much sponsoring the team actually gets. As far as quality players go only a few teams have serious oppurtunities to compete in SPL i think, acer or mvp don't stand much of a chance with their current roster I think gauging their individual successes.
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To be honest, this thread seems kind of pointless. Speculation is fine, until the revelation comes out it doesn't mean anything. Discussion of who makes enough money is relevant I suppose, but I really think this is a creation of a conversation for nothing.
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You can make all the pie charts you want but in the end none of these companies spend large amounts of their marketing budgets on Esports and i would imagine even less on starcraft nowadays when there are 2 more popular games .
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On July 23 2013 07:01 nickbalev wrote:
You can make all the pie charts you want but in the end none of these companies spend large amounts of their marketing budgets on Esports and i would imagine even less on starcraft nowadays when there are 2 more popular games .
Those are not pie charts, but bar charts.
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On July 23 2013 06:48 DamageControL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 06:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
It seems absurd to ask this but what is the bar graph measuring? Thousands of {currency here}? Millions of US dollars--huge oversight
Ah okay, thanks!
And yeah I guess that the Samsung one would tilt the balance.
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IIRC Samsung Khan isn't actually sponsored by the big big Samsung, but just a smaller branch. I can be totally wrong though.
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Those graphs aren't too useful tbh, because they don't reflect the actual level of commitment with regards to sponsorship. Kespa teams are practically OWNED by their sponsors, while the sponsors for most eSF teams function much like sponsors in western sc2 teams.
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Showing how much revenue a given company generates has absolutely nothing to do with how much money they're willing to spend on a sponsorship.
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Unless you're making some kind of snide comment, I think you mean "venerated" not "veneered" in the first sentence of the article.
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Axiom Acer doesn't have enough players. They have 6 players, and no offense, but Heart is almost like a free win, Crank and Scarlett have injuries, etc. Acer may be a big company, but they have 2 players in Korea. Not enough.
The last thing we want in PL are fodder teams. I love Axiom Acer, but even I'm not delusional.
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By revenue alone, Samsung should have 200 sc2 players and 10 LoL teams minimal. You can't compare company revenue to judge how much they willing to sponsor their team. I mean, Samsung Khan is like very poor compared to T1, KT or CJ which are fucking dwarves judging by their revenue.
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Terrible post OP. Corporate revenues are not correlated with how much they'd be willing to invest in advertising in E-Sports. Also, just because Coach Park left does not mean EG-TL is dead and leaving SPL. EG just made a huge deal with Papa Johns which might make staying in Korea more financially viable.
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