EPTHm, I can't find anything on Liquipedia on this, was I only hallucinating or misremembering?
Filling the EG-TL Gap - Page 3
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Hm, I can't find anything on Liquipedia on this, was I only hallucinating or misremembering? | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:18 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Maybe you should wait until they have made their decision. Maybe Papa john sponsors the training house in Korea. + Show Spoiler + We could call it Pizza Hut EG-TL is not out of Proleague yet. Yes, Alex Garfield specifically said that EG-TL in Prolegaue still hasn't been decided yet. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:54 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'm just going to ignore this; goes to show you don't even research yourself. Those revenues/net incomes haven't been updated in years. SK - Revenue Increase USD 13.601 billion (2010) Acer - Revenue Decrease US$16.18 billion (2011) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull - Doesn't even have the revenue or net income. I never said they were updated numbers. I linked you to where he got most of his information(with a simple google search), don't blame me if the numbers are old. I provided sources for the numbers he showed on his graph. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
and the fact that they still are LG-IM long after obtaining the sponsorship more than a year ago, combined with several other noteworthy sponsors I'd wager a guess that they could afford the 100k deposit. LG still likely isn't as deeply invested with IM as most, if not all, Kespa team sponsors are, but I think the potential for them to be is there though. IM certainly has demonstrated they have the skill, most of their players are competing in WCS Korea, they don't attend many foreign tournaments and I would think that surely LG would want to represented in proleague at some point. I mean are they really going to let Samsung steal all the glory >_> | ||
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Walnuts
United States770 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:09 y0su wrote: Considering Nestea has been one of ESF's strongest player figures it would be highly unlikely for LG-IM to switch from GSTL to PL. I do agree that I would love to see LG-IM vs whoever wins PL... But it's not going to happen in PL. hahahaha | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
Too much stuff over there is decided based on money and not based on who deserves to decide. In other sports the guys cheated into office deserve that office somewhat at least. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Why are you laughing? He is right you know, Nestea is the player representative at ESF and IM is a founding member. IM switching to PL would require either serious change in the relations of ESF and Kespa or straight out dissolving ESF. | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
- Even if your sponsor is a rich company, how much are they willing to shell out? Hypothetically, ST might get more from an enthusiastic RedBull sponsorship than IM might get from a lukewarm LG. - Secondly, we don't know exactly how much it actually costs to participate in Proleauge, when you're talking opportunity cost (ie. If EG and TL had already decided they wanted a Korean pro house, then also joining Proleague is much less daunting than if they were originally planning on having their players stay "abroad"). It also depends on how much the teams want to put in - maybe Proleague on its own is not too expensive, but hiring/keeping a dedicated coach so your team doesn't bomb out every match boosts the price tag enough to give them second thoughts. I don't expect either of those pieces of information to become public anytime soon, and indeed they shouldn't as they are essential parts of a team's internal financial strategy. So, I don't think it's very valuable to speculate on who might join Proleague simply based on the limited financial information we have. If anything, I would consider the "personal connections" across teams, players, and organizations to point to the answer. (Which eSF or non-KESPA non-eSF team/s has/have the best working relationship with KESPA) | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:19 painkilla wrote: Question is what IM has to gain from participating in PL? PL does not have that many viewers, most of them are hardcore fans. And there is a 100K entry fee? Nobody here knows the TV ratings and numbers for proleague but we can assume it is watched by a lot more Korean viewers than GSTL. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:22 ACrow wrote: Why are you laughing? He is right you know, Nestea is the player representative at ESF and IM is a founding member. IM switching to PL would require either serious change in the relations of ESF and Kespa or straight out dissolving ESF. I don't know how loyal IM is to eSF, but now that GSL doesn't run independent of Blizzard I don't see any good reason why they have to stay in eSF. eSF doesn't seem to really do anything these days anyway, Kespa has qualifiers for their own players but I never see eSF qualifiers. | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
do you remember the name of the guy pulling out all the esf player of the last OSL? | ||
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Kaizen[7]
United States86 Posts
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
MVP however, is doing quite well. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:17 Rhaegal wrote: Combine GSTL and SPL, have Khaldor and Wolf cast it. Bam! Scene becomes more awesome and exciting than ever in the history of SC2. Gnah, not more of them :D But even if they merge, I guess it will be split broadcasting like WCS KR | ||
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Penev
28500 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote: Jjust to clarify something: both LG-IM teams are doing extremely horrible in OGN LoL. They're easily the worst two teams there. Could effect their involvement in SPL. MVP however, is doing quite well. D: didn't know that as I don't watch LoL. I guess sc2 stole all their juice, xD. Can't win it all. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
The problem is not with sponsor's bankroll, the issue is that most company no longer thinks SC2 is worth investing on a large scale. | ||
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Albinoswordfish
United States108 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:41 JustPassingBy wrote: I don't know... Proleague has really become bad in terms of production and viewer numbers, live stage and live crowd. Is investing into a tournament like that so heavily really a sound choice for a sponsor who seeks to spend money in competitive gaming or aren't there better ways? What? Proleague with OGN has superior production with GOM with GSTL. SPOTV production is pretty bad I must say. The only reason people hate Proleague is because of Whiplash and SNM whom I'm pretty sure won't be there next year. Also Proleague is WAY more popular in Korea than GSTL. | ||
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