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On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:
Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know.
Are you Flash's parents? What is your background? Why should a Korean, working in a segment of the entertainment industry, have to live your European cookie cutter way of life? Is spending a couple lazy years in high school really that important? Maybe you see value in that, but some don't. Please understand that not every single person can spur prosperity in the same environment. In other words, what works for you, doesn't always work for everyone else.
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Does anyone who's been to a GSL or SPL match in person mind letting me know how many seats were filled out of wherever the games were played? It seems to me that it's unlikely to have the stadium "look," empty because it IS the SPL, but then again I've been wrong before.
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On July 23 2013 06:31 SonZHi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:
Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know. Are you Flash's parents? What is your background? Why should a Korean, working in a segment of the entertainment industry, have to live your European cookie cutter way of life? Is spending a couple lazy years in high school really that important? Maybe you see value in that, but some don't. Please understand that not every single person can spur prosperity in the same environment. In other words, what works for you, doesn't always work for everyone else.
Also I believe that FlaSh finished high school as well. It's supposedly not uncommon for KeSPA progamers to do part-time studies at a high school when they're pro-gaming.
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On July 22 2013 21:38 mystpoke wrote:OSL finals the next week, imo. It makes perfect sense.
I'm guessing the League Champions finals will be at Gwangali. OSL will probably just be at Kintex.
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On July 21 2013 17:54 endy wrote:
It's a good venue. Also, amazing feat, you can buy hotdogs and nachos between the games :O
:D most important thing!
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On July 22 2013 06:23 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 06:17 Gorilla23 wrote:On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...
I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?
OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait! To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW. No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such. Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case. It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not). And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so. Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s................... Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done? FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash. I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life. Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know. Flash completed high school. Also, he's still young. Very young. Sure, he has ~2 years of military service, but when you're making his wage, why would you go to college? College will still be there when the money stops coming. In all likelihood, he will make less after graduating college, if he goes, than he does now. And besides, who are any of us to criticize what he's doing with his life or even discuss what options he has and "should" take. I love SC2 as much as the next guy (probably not I like it, but I much prefer BW), but a progaming career is always a sinking ship you just need to jump off at the right time before it bombs.
Always a sinking ship? Yeah right.. I mean just look at Boxer. Oh wait...
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Is there a place to sign up for TL-foreigner seats like the WCS finals?
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On July 24 2013 22:17 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 06:23 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 06:17 Gorilla23 wrote:On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...
I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?
OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait! To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW. No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such. Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case. It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not). And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so. Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s................... Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done? FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash. I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life. Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know. Flash completed high school. Also, he's still young. Very young. Sure, he has ~2 years of military service, but when you're making his wage, why would you go to college? College will still be there when the money stops coming. In all likelihood, he will make less after graduating college, if he goes, than he does now. And besides, who are any of us to criticize what he's doing with his life or even discuss what options he has and "should" take. I love SC2 as much as the next guy (probably not I like it, but I much prefer BW), but a progaming career is always a sinking ship you just need to jump off at the right time before it bombs. Always a sinking ship? Yeah right.. I mean just look at Boxer. Oh wait...
That's like saying dropping out of university isn't always a bad choice because Bill Gates made it big.
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On July 29 2013 22:21 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 22:17 c0ldfusion wrote:On July 22 2013 06:23 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 06:17 Gorilla23 wrote:On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
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To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.
No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such. Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case. It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not). And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so. Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s................... Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done? FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash. I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life. Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know. Flash completed high school. Also, he's still young. Very young. Sure, he has ~2 years of military service, but when you're making his wage, why would you go to college? College will still be there when the money stops coming. In all likelihood, he will make less after graduating college, if he goes, than he does now. And besides, who are any of us to criticize what he's doing with his life or even discuss what options he has and "should" take. I love SC2 as much as the next guy (probably not I like it, but I much prefer BW), but a progaming career is always a sinking ship you just need to jump off at the right time before it bombs. Always a sinking ship? Yeah right.. I mean just look at Boxer. Oh wait... That's like saying dropping out of university isn't always a bad choice because Bill Gates made it big.
Your sentence is a contradiction in of itself. Always being the operative word there.
(And actually yes, if you're truly exceptional, college is a waste of time. Bill Gates isn't the only example. You may have heard of Steve Jobs, I'm sure.)
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On July 29 2013 22:27 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 22:21 bo1b wrote:On July 24 2013 22:17 c0ldfusion wrote:On July 22 2013 06:23 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 06:17 Gorilla23 wrote:On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
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No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such. Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case. It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not). And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so. Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s................... Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done? FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash. I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life. Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know. Flash completed high school. Also, he's still young. Very young. Sure, he has ~2 years of military service, but when you're making his wage, why would you go to college? College will still be there when the money stops coming. In all likelihood, he will make less after graduating college, if he goes, than he does now. And besides, who are any of us to criticize what he's doing with his life or even discuss what options he has and "should" take. I love SC2 as much as the next guy (probably not I like it, but I much prefer BW), but a progaming career is always a sinking ship you just need to jump off at the right time before it bombs. Always a sinking ship? Yeah right.. I mean just look at Boxer. Oh wait... That's like saying dropping out of university isn't always a bad choice because Bill Gates made it big. Your sentence is a contradiction in of itself. Always being the operative word there. (And actually yes, if you're truly exceptional, college is a waste of time. Bill Gates isn't the only example. You may have heard of Steve Jobs, I'm sure.)
Steve Jobs was not truly exceptional.
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Anyone has any idea on the procedures to get a ticket? Is it just free entry or do we have to reserve before the actual competition date?
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