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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 17:58:09
July 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#41
Reading this thread is really depressing. Holy cow people stop worrying before it even took place.
I am sure a lot of people will want to witness a PL final without a telekom team.
This is our town, scrub
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
July 21 2013 18:00 GMT
#42
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 18:03:22
July 21 2013 18:02 GMT
#43
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.
Refer to my post.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
July 21 2013 18:03 GMT
#44
If its a final, it will get a crap ton of people in the audience. Championship Sundays always have more viewers in the seats than the saturday, The show always has more than the days before.

Excited and #HYPE(d) for the SPL Finals :D Woongjin Stars, FIGHTING!
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
July 21 2013 18:27 GMT
#45
On July 22 2013 03:03 Master of DalK wrote:
If its a final, it will get a crap ton of people in the audience. Championship Sundays always have more viewers in the seats than the saturday, The show always has more than the days before.

Excited and #HYPE(d) for the SPL Finals :D Woongjin Stars, FIGHTING!


I hope so, WCS S1 finals only managed to fill the bottom level ;;.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
July 21 2013 18:38 GMT
#46
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
July 21 2013 19:07 GMT
#47
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
July 21 2013 19:31 GMT
#48
On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................

Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done?

FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash.

I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life.

Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
July 21 2013 19:35 GMT
#49
On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................

They could also invest into a business, I guess, but a lot of these guys just don't seem like they are ready to do something of the sort.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
July 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#50
On July 22 2013 03:03 Master of DalK wrote:
If its a final, it will get a crap ton of people in the audience. Championship Sundays always have more viewers in the seats than the saturday, The show always has more than the days before.

Excited and #HYPE(d) for the SPL Finals :D Woongjin Stars, FIGHTING!

i take it you didn't watch the last pl finals
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
July 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#51
On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................

Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done?

FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash.

I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life.

Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know.


You do realize that you can go to school at any age, right?
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 21 2013 19:55 GMT
#52
On July 22 2013 04:43 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................

Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done?

FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash.

I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life.

Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know.


You do realize that you can go to school at any age, right?


Why are people arguing about Flash's future? He can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Who cares if he gets a "bad" job? Slavery is slavery, how much green paper you get doesn't make some forms of slavery better than others. If Starcraft makes him happy, so be it.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 21 2013 19:56 GMT
#53
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TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
July 21 2013 20:08 GMT
#54
On July 22 2013 04:55 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 04:43 TheSwamp wrote:
On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................

Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done?

FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash.

I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life.

Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know.


You do realize that you can go to school at any age, right?


Why are people arguing about Flash's future? He can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Who cares if he gets a "bad" job? Slavery is slavery, how much green paper you get doesn't make some forms of slavery better than others. If Starcraft makes him happy, so be it.


Slavery is an interesting choice...
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theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 21:06:34
July 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#55
Honestly given the fact that the kr sc2 teamscene is divided between esf and kepa I would not be surprised to see low attendence.One of the main,if not the only thing that is keeping sc2 behind in korea is the fact that at team level the talent is divided between 2 organizations so when you watch a sc2 team competition you know that you will not see the best players competing against each other.Yeah I know kespa has lots of good players but you want to actually see ALL the good players divided into teams and playing against each other.Hopefully when the esf-kepa ban ends we will have a unified korean team scene and then attendence and viewership will rise exponentially.It aint sc2 itself that is not very popular in korea it is the politics behind the sc2 organizations.

P.S:for those talking about attendence may I remind you that the last major sc2 competitions aka dreamhacks,mlgs,OSLs,GSLs had a packed house and there were no empty seats. .Yeah I know at team level politics is keeping the scene back in korea but when this will be solved you are going to see packed house again at teamlevel.

P.S2:i see a lot of people bitching about wcs finals.I dunno what you guys were watching but when I watched the wcs finals it was a packed house and eveybody who posted pics showed a packed house.I understand the sc2 dying thing is trendy but at least get your facts straight.
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
July 21 2013 21:05 GMT
#56
my 'sources' tells me that not many people will turn up to this event.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
July 21 2013 21:07 GMT
#57
On July 22 2013 04:43 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 04:31 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 04:07 feanor1 wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:38 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 22 2013 03:00 thezanursic wrote:
On July 22 2013 02:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!

To me it seems like its just the old BW fans who want SC2 to fail so the pros go back to playing BW.


No I don't want them to go back to BW. Yes a couple of fresh faces playing in the SSL never hurt, but FlaSh will immediately retire after he is done with SC2. I'm actually surprised that he hasn't done so already. I mean yes it's still profitable for him to keep playing, but considering that he is already banking a couple of millions at his age and has enough time to finish school he could be the definitive winner of BW unlike some of the other ex pros who are stuck as coaches or such.

Progaming is a recognized career over there, you don't just retire "because I have bank". Flash has been pretty successful in sc2 thus far (ro2/4 MLG, going to have the most PL wins, 2nd at the Asian indoor somethingsomething, ro16 twice in a row gsl/osl). While he doesn't have the same drive as he did in BW.. there's little reason for him to quit unless he outright disliked the game, which I don't believe is the case.

It's simply a smart move. Progaming should never be THE final step in your life it should be a transition. FlaSh could possibly make even more money, but I personally wouldn't risk it. I mean yeah if he was 24, right now he might as well stick with whatever he is doing before he is done with college he'll be like a lot (I don't know how the Korean system works and I'm not fully sure if FlaSh finished High School or not).

And no it's not considered a career. It's just that we at TL like to think so.

Its pretty much never a smart move to turn done 200k a year or W/e he makes in you early 20s...................

Even if you will be stuck as a coach or maybe a janitor for the rest of your life once you are done?

FlaSh is 19 he can still do ''anything'' and he already won 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs, a WCG, a GSL (The BW one), everything from the best rookie award to the best player award and obviously loads of cash.

I'm pretty sure that he isn't more than he did probably a little bit less, but still a lot. He will need to pull out eventually and the longer he waits the more likely that he gets stuck with a bad job for the rest of his life.

Stephano is a good example of a player retiring after he has struck gold. In his case it probably wouldn't hurt to wait 1 more year and go to college after, but FlaSh hasn't even finished High School (I think), but being 19 that's not that bad especially with the bank that he has pilled up. He can easily attend High School maybe even continue progaming with a relaxed schedule for the first 1-2 years (I don't know how the system works in SK, but where I live and a lot of Europe the first couple of years don't actually matter - as in they don't affect your college application), but again I really don't know.


You do realize that you can go to school at any age, right?

You do realize that humans don't live forever and going to school just before you drop dead is economically unsound.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 21 2013 21:08 GMT
#58
Yada yada dead game no one will watch sc2 dead yada yada

Come on guys, the WCS Season Finals had pretty good attendance, PL can probably at least match it
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 21 2013 21:09 GMT
#59
On July 22 2013 02:42 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 02:38 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 21 2013 23:16 Lorch wrote:
By reading this thread one may assume people on tl suffer from heavy mental illness...

I'ts gonna be sick, no it's not gonna be 50 people there, you guys need to stop wishing for star 2 to die in korea, it's getting really fucking sad. What kind of a fucked up community are we when most of us wish for our own game to be dead?


OT: Sick that it's gonna be there, can't wait!


Not everyone wants SC2 to become some huge mainstream thing. I'd prefer a smaller, more personal community.


I don't care how big it gets as I only care about the games not all the stupid bs around it, but wishing for your own game to not fill seats when finals are held (of a league that has had teams disbanding for a long time now) you literally wish for the game you care about to get fucked, and that is a level of retardness I fail to comprehend.


Agreed, the negativity on these boards from members of It's own community is disgusting. I can understand seeing posts like this in the dota or league sections but not here.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
July 21 2013 21:10 GMT
#60
On July 22 2013 06:04 theking1 wrote:
Honestly given the fact that the kr sc2 teamscene is divided between esf and kepa I would not be surprised to see low attendence.One of the main,if not the only thing that is keeping sc2 behind in korea is the fact that at team level the talent is divided between 2 organizations so when you watch a sc2 team competition you know that you will not see the best players competing against each other.Yeah I know kespa has lots of good players but you want to actually see ALL the good players divided into teams and playing against each other.Hopefully when the esf-kepa ban ends we will have a unified korean team scene and then attendence and viewership will rise exponentially.It aint sc2 itself that is not very popular in korea it is the politics behind the sc2 organizations.

P.S:for those talking about attendence may I remind you that the last major sc2 competitions aka dreamhacks,mlgs,OSLs,GSLs had a packed house and there were no empty seats. .Yeah I know at team level politics is keeping the scene back in korea but when this will be solved you are going to see packed house again at teamlevel.

P.S2:i see a lot of people bitching about wcs finals.I dunno what you guys were watching but when I watched the wcs finals it was a packed house and eveybody who posted pics showed a packed house.I understand the sc2 dying thing is trendy but at least get your facts straight.

That would be a good argument for bad attendance, but you forget the fact that Brood War was historically driven by marketing (KT pouring loads of money into selling their brand etc etc). It builds hype something that the GSL is just not capable of. Whatever viewership decided to transition from BW to SC2 probably watches OGN. GSL was NEVER popular in Korea. It was always driven by foreign viewership.
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