This thread is dedicated to the worst games in Starcraft 2 History
The most suitable games would be the one with "Epic Fail", "Mental Breakdown", "Ridiculous" sign attached to it. Those games could still be brilliant in other aspects but on some level they should be the worst.
The most boring games are also included to the list. Because this level of Masochism of players to themselves and Sadism to the viewer should be appreciated in some form.
If you know some games where Casters go nuts in some form - post it (Tastosis duo must have done that thousands of times)
Don't forget we are here to enjoy the game and all the players from this list play SC2 better then we can ever dream of.
When mentioning the game try to explain what is so special about it and please post the VOD link.
Thank you. gl hf
Best Worst so far:
InCa vs Nestea - Worst Series Puma vs Sos - Worst Game The Idra wins the Nomination for the most Brain melt downs
PS: I am going to update the list as the time allows.
PPS: all the gomtv links since the end of the 2013 are f$%ed up. And looks like gomtv didn't put all the vods in youtube as promised so if somebody would find appropriate links for at least some of the mentioned games would be cool.
On July 14 2013 09:26 HystericaLaughter wrote: Context is important for a lot of the games. Naniwa/Nestea probe rush was in a meaningless game in group stage that wasn't going to affect results, but they were forced to play it anyway. So Naniwa selected him probes and right-clicked Nestea's base in protest. Caused a mega shit storm about honorable play and how Naniwa insulted the Korean scene and blah blah blah.
Nestea vs InCa (DTs supposed to be surprise. Right?) + Show Spoiler +
On July 14 2013 09:26 HystericaLaughter wrote: Context is important for a lot of the games. The Nestea/Inca series wouldn't have been considered so bad except for when it was played. It was a GSL final. Nestea wiped the floor with an inferior player who never deserved to make it past the round of 32 but somehow made the finals. He then proceded to embarrass himself and bore everyone else by DT rushing every damn game. Context is important.
On July 14 2013 01:30 jubil wrote: Who can forget TheBest banshee control?
TheBest vs MKP GSL Super Tournament, round of 8 as I recall, TheBest basically wasted multiple banshees just flying them straight into turrets and the such, MKP took a super easy 3-0 that series, and I felt awful for being worried.
On July 13 2013 23:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Oh, and if you want to watch the most mind-boggling series, watch Bomber vs ByuN in Code S Ro8 (the only Ro8 Bomber made)
On July 14 2013 01:42 Talionis wrote: That one game Inca played on Terminus against a terran where he had the game lost multiple times over. Then he made a DT which made the terran have a complete meltdown which somehow let Inca come back and win.
On July 13 2013 23:58 slytown wrote: Todd v happy at dream hack. 50 min game with no attacks casted by day9 and bitter. They made it one of the funniest games as well.
On July 14 2013 08:45 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Speaking of bad ThorZaIN games. ThorZaIN vs GuineaPig in GSTL (when he played for F.United). GuineaPig rolled Zerg and went Hydras. Unsurprisingly, they got absolutely obliterated by tanks. ^^
On July 14 2013 12:22 Niteblade_ wrote: Not sure if someone listed it already, but that game of HuK vs Idra were HuK hallucinated void rays and idra just gg'd.
On July 14 2013 17:13 TheSwamp wrote: Nestea vs I can't remember on Antigua shipyard. The game where Nestea went for three hatch before pool and the Terran went for a marine scv all in and move commanded his way into a loss.
On July 14 2013 17:49 Moobla wrote: Do you mean the game with Sparta where he went 4rax marine scv all-in? I was going to mention that one.
On July 15 2013 07:54 Dreamer.T wrote: I remember this game of Steppes of War where this zerg did the most strangest and silly proxy hatch.
Do you mean the one where the zerg made a proxy hatch by the watchtower (or some other completely random place), made a queen out of the proxy hatch, and tried use it to kill the zealot holding the entrance to the main? Sadly, I can't remember the players, but I'm pretty sure it was in the open seasons of the gsl
edit: HAH looked through all the open seasons to find it but I think it's worth it. Set 1 of Golden vs Squirtle in GSL open season 3, RO32 match 3 http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1401 edit2: to describe the game - PvZ, Golden proxies a hatch at the watchtower and then accidentally puts down an evo chamber instead of a pool. lol
On July 25 2013 01:39 Shenghi wrote: BitByBit vs Moon in GSL 2011 January Code A Ro32, set 2. BitByBit tried to not all-in. Moon tried baneling landmines. Both failed horribly.
Tester vs FreeSaGa (Double proxy gate vs 1 Gate zealots) + Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2013 17:54 FrodaN wrote: There was this really old game of Tester/Trickster back in the day where he held off a double proxy gate at the gold base with only 1 gate zealots. Anyone remember by any chance??
On July 13 2013 23:48 Arceus wrote: PuMa proxying 2rax on Caldeum, lifting onto sOs' main and gg. I recall the whole LR thread just died laughing at that rofl the hype around EGTL could never recover after that disaster.
On July 14 2013 09:33 Salivanth wrote: I recommend SuHoSin vs. Leenock, Ro32 Group A, from the GSL Life won. Both games, Suhosin hard-countered Leenock's 15-hatch with a 10-pool, but both games, made awful, awful mistakes by engaging stacked drones or allowing Leenock to build spines, and lost horribly.
On July 14 2013 12:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Nestea vs Alive on Whirlwind in the final WoL season of code A...
my god I wanted to gouge my eyes out watching that. That was among the worst of Nestea's Zergbong moments.
could also throw in Nestea vs Noblesse on Cloud Kingdom.
That was just agonizing as a Nestea fan, especially after his Iron Squid run. If you listen to Artosis during the cast you can feel his soul die as Nestea goes Ultra/Bl....
Some games are so bad, they're good. Some games are so bad, they're f***ing terrible. In the case of Dragon vs. Cytoplasm from DHS 2012, it's really hard to tell where it falls. Some viewers seemed to find the sheer amount of carnage, confusion, and inability of either player to finish the game to be hilariously entertaining. Others found themselves disgusted by the match, but somehow still glued to their screens like they were watching a gruesome car wreck happen in slow motion. For better or for worse, it was a truly unique match from 2012, and one that just had to be mentioned.
On July 25 2013 15:33 T0MORR0W wrote: Symbol vs Roro, game 1 of the finals of the last WoL GSL. There were broodlings fighting broodlings in the middle of the map for a good 10 mins.
Scarlett vs Miya (The Game which broke Incontrol) + Show Spoiler +
RaidCall EG MCSL Season 8
On August 20 2013 11:56 Vaftrudner wrote: I can't believe no one's mentioned the Scarlett ZvZ in the EG Master's Cup Team League in WoL. It was hour long ZvZs with broodling vs broodling action that broke Incontrol. The most boring games and the most hilarious casting I can remember. I'm fairly sure it was against Slayers Miya, unfortunately, I can't find the vods and the Liquipedia link is dead, http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Results_and_VODs/Week6/?match=110/ . Does someone know if there's a vod somewhere? I really want to hear Incontrol in tears again.
On July 14 2013 13:36 F.O.A.D. wrote: DHOpen: Summer, Ro16, GuMiho v. Hyun, g2 - Hyun completely threw the game with potentially the worst Ovie drop ever
First is failed 6 Pool. Second and Third is Fantasy being stubborn like hell. Commentary from Tastosis was very good. http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80738
Sos vs Soulkey (One of the worst series in Hots history) + Show Spoiler +
WCS Korea Season 1 2013 Semifinals So much hype: Soulkey famous for his stellar defense and SOS for his cool builds. At the end the whole serie turned out to be a huge disappointment. Just don't watch it http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/80092
Weeadamins vs State (Canon rushing without Forge) + Show Spoiler +
On July 14 2013 10:12 peragon wrote: Just played, but ridiculously bad, is Scarlett vs Mana on Daybreak in the SC2L team league. An hour long. Ridiculous.
Soo vs Gumiho (Double Fail: failed proxy 2rax into failed baneling bust) + Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2013 13:57 imareaver3 wrote: For those who didn't watch: + Show Spoiler +
soO held off a double proxy rax and decided to just go for a one-base baneling all-in. He had six banelings and a ton of zerglings against just two marines and nothing else. So, for no particular reason, he split his banelings up so that the SCV's could repair the wall in between banelings hits. After another failed bust with more banelings, he lost.
Thorzain vs Killer (New Definition of Term "Passive") + Show Spoiler +
MLG Dallas 2013
On July 25 2013 19:15 Spaceboy wrote: HotS 2013 - Killer vs Thorzain ... is this the most infuriatingly passive game of all time?.. you be the judge, if you've got an hour to waste, and I do mean waste! :D
On July 14 2013 08:09 LlamaNamedOsama wrote: ThorZain vs Killer at MLG Winter was pretty bad - took, what, an hour of turtling to win a game that Tzain had already won at 10mins?
On July 25 2013 06:44 KingAlphard wrote: He thinks the map was cross only and proxies 2 gates at the wrong base. The funniest thing is that he doesn't realize until he has 3 zealots.
Goswser vs Lucifron (agonizing death for 30 mins) + Show Spoiler +
game 3 at ASUS ROG Summer 2013
On August 20 2013 13:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Goswser vs LucifroN game 3 at ASUS ROG Summer 2013 It was a pretty cool game by both players for the most part...THEN it reaches a clear point where Lucifron experiences an agonizing death animation for 30 minutes. I mean it even gets to the low that Khaldra run out of things to even say about the game, and Rick Astley makes an appearances. I mean I see Symbol vs RorO up there, which was very well played by both players but just had an incredibly boring moment. So I'd think this one should certainly qualify, as it was much worse.
GSL Code A Group F Set 2 Match 2 New Magnitude of Sloppiness Khaldor making new term "Casual run by's". And proper wall against your own units http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/c/3562898
I think your OP should kind of include a detailed analysis of why the game was so bad, and then invite all others to post what they think were the worst professional games.
On July 13 2013 23:38 Geo.Rion wrote: BitbyBit's 6th or 7th marine scv allin. Everyone knew it was coming...
Naniwa s proberussh ws funny at least
Hahaha, yeah, but still funny as shit. Man I miss that guy.
For me, it was probably mvp vs life in the gsl finals from a Terran (and guy screaming at his pc screen) pov. MVP just didn`t seem to have the answer. And then after the series twitter was full of comments such as ``nobody told mvp that tanks don`t shoot up.`` :`D
PuMa proxying 2rax on Caldeum, lifting onto sOs' main and gg. I recall the whole LR thread just died laughing at that rofl the hype around EGTL could never recover after that disaster
oh and HerO failing to wall-off and losing to hydra's slow lings on Cloud Kingdom
In one sense it is a great game from MKP, but very poor by SuHoSin as he let MKP land his CC and get mining and a barracks up.
I think there was another SuHoSin game vs Vampire from Round 2 of code A from probably mid 2012 that was pretty rough... Vods here: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls3/vod/67609 It's been a long time since I saw that series, but I remember it being very poor from both players - especially vampire. EDIT: None of the games are good, game 2 is bad and so is game 3, and Wolfdor make it exciting to watch.
It's a shame that SuHoSin stands out with two of the worst GSL games in recent time in my mind, because I'm sure he'd rather be remembered for some of his better games
On July 13 2013 23:33 SorrowShine wrote: I watch the WCS Season 2 Hyvaa vs Fantasy. Hyvaa 6 pooled first game. It was the worst 6 pool eva. Still very funny. http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80738 Tastosis laughed their socks off.
Does anyone has any other games which were sooooo bad
It was really funny to watch.
Tastosis mentioned smth of the game where Toss blockes his expo with a pylon.
On July 13 2013 23:33 SorrowShine wrote: I watch the WCS Season 2 Hyvaa vs Fantasy. Hyvaa 6 pooled first game. It was the worst 6 pool eva. Still very funny. http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs2/vod/80738 Tastosis laughed their socks off.
Does anyone has any other games which were sooooo bad
It was really funny to watch.
Tastosis mentioned smth of the game where Toss blockes his expo with a pylon.
Why was it bad? He just got a build order loss ;
it was bad because he shouldn't of suicided the drones, you can possibly still come back if you kept all the drones mining.
My vote would be a gsl season 1 or 2 match I saw between byong byong and some zerg. The zerg goes 2 hatch baneling bust like 4 times and each time byong byong just makes a wall of empty bunkers in front of his full ones and wins after just a moving the zergs base.
On July 13 2013 23:48 Arceus wrote: PuMa proxying 2rax on Caldeum, lifting onto sOs' main and gg. I recall the whole LR thread just died laughing at that rofl the hype around EGTL could never recover after that disaster
oh and HerO failing to wall-off and losing to hydra's slow lings on Cloud Kingdom
Also HerO failing to wall-off and losing to Targa's slow lings on Cloud Kingdom (at DH Valencia)
To be fair Azubu's games in the GSTL today were pretty bad. Sleep completely forgetting to get both gasses in his main until the 20 minute mark and Symbol just straight up forgetting upgrades all together. When the game ended it was Yoda's 3-3 bio vs Symbols 0-1 ground -_-
HerO vs Byun on Daybreak. The first half of the game is really good, but after that it just gets hillariously bad, with Hero refusing to leave a lost game and Byun refusing to attack even though there was no change for him to lose. It's also the longest pro game I can think of.
On July 13 2013 23:45 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Most games from the first seasons of GSL.
What the hell are you talking about? Those games were great! I mean sure with not your knowledge nowadays, but back then. I mean I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I especially remember GSL Season 2 Foxer (MKP) vs. Nestea final, it was insanely cool.
On July 14 2013 00:10 graNite wrote: last mlg somebody cannonrushed and forgot the forge :D
Oh yea, I remember watching that game on one of the Community streams. It was Weedamin vs State. Weedamin had the full pylon block behind State's mineral line too.
Since you are asking for televised/tournament matches, I can help you out. I just worked my way up from silver to plat. If you want I can give you a replay pack of arguably the WORST 60 games of Starcraft history. Maybe even worse. I mean, what random player gets baneling busted as Terran, after that as Protoss and then as Terran again? Has to be some sort of record right?
Nobody is going to agree with me but MVP vs Squirtle Game 6 Fortunately game 7 (proxy 2rax) was so tense and amazing it completely made up for it, especially hero probe
Goody vs Nerchio on Shakuras where Goody bunker rushed the position where Nerchio didn't spawn. Happy vs RorO and Gumiho vs Scarlett where they lost with 2rax vs 3 hatch before pool. I'm sure there are more games that were pretty ridiculous.
Another game with Scarlett was pretty funny when she 6-pooled vs fraer on Shattered Temple but didn't go into his base far enough with the scouting drone, so she thought he was at a different position. Naturally, the 6-pool failed badly. :D
TheBest vs MKP GSL Super Tournament, round of 8 as I recall, TheBest basically wasted multiple banshees just flying them straight into turrets and the such, MKP took a super easy 3-0 that series, and I felt awful for being worried.
In terms of the game with the absolute least enjoyment value inherent to the game itself, the answer has to be Naniwa's probe rush against Nestea in the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup, although of course it had a juicy backstory and associated drama.
Also, in general the early GSL finals were awful, the only exceptions being the first one (awesome Fruitdealer storyline) and the second (4-3, young upstart MKP vs old comeback Nestea). Of the bad ones, Nestea vs Inca in GSL May was probably the worst. I believe the trend was reversed with GSL 2011 November's jjakji vs Leenock, though I hear 2012 Season 3 Seed vs MC was bad, and some people really hated all the ZvZ at the end of WoL.
Nestea vs. Inca is the game everyone talks about. But the (I believe seminfinal) games against nada were just as bad. I think Inca took an easy 3-0 with dt rushes.
That one game Inca played on Terminus against a terran where he had the game lost multiple times over. Then he made a DT which made the terran have a complete meltdown which somehow let Inca come back and win.
On July 14 2013 01:30 jubil wrote: Who can forget TheBest banshee control?
TheBest vs MKP GSL Super Tournament, round of 8 as I recall, TheBest basically wasted multiple banshees just flying them straight into turrets and the such, MKP took a super easy 3-0 that series, and I felt awful for being worried.
In terms of the game with the absolute least enjoyment value inherent to the game itself, the answer has to be Naniwa's probe rush against Nestea in the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup, although of course it had a juicy backstory and associated drama.
Also, in general the early GSL finals were awful, the only exceptions being the first one (awesome Fruitdealer storyline) and the second (4-3, young upstart MKP vs old comeback Nestea). Of the bad ones, Nestea vs Inca in GSL May was probably the worst. I believe the trend was reversed with GSL 2011 November's jjakji vs Leenock, though I hear 2012 Season 3 Seed vs MC was bad, and some people really hated all the ZvZ at the end of WoL.
You must be burned at the cross for not mentioning DRG vs. MMA as a good GSL finals. Possibly the best one ever, those games were amazing and the crowd at that BlizzCon was RIDICULOUS. John the Translator shed tears for you, man. Respect John the Baptist.
Definitely ToD vs EmpireHappy on tal Darim at one of the dreamhacks a while back. It was absolutely the worst display of pro sc2 I've seen. 1 hour of pure agony only saved by Day9's humour.
Huk vs Nestea on the same map was horrid as well, but it was also very funny. Unless you're a Nestea fan that is.
On July 14 2013 01:30 jubil wrote: Who can forget TheBest banshee control?
TheBest vs MKP GSL Super Tournament, round of 8 as I recall, TheBest basically wasted multiple banshees just flying them straight into turrets and the such, MKP took a super easy 3-0 that series, and I felt awful for being worried.
In terms of the game with the absolute least enjoyment value inherent to the game itself, the answer has to be Naniwa's probe rush against Nestea in the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup, although of course it had a juicy backstory and associated drama.
Also, in general the early GSL finals were awful, the only exceptions being the first one (awesome Fruitdealer storyline) and the second (4-3, young upstart MKP vs old comeback Nestea). Of the bad ones, Nestea vs Inca in GSL May was probably the worst. I believe the trend was reversed with GSL 2011 November's jjakji vs Leenock, though I hear 2012 Season 3 Seed vs MC was bad, and some people really hated all the ZvZ at the end of WoL.
You must be burned at the cross for not mentioning DRG vs. MMA as a good GSL finals. Possibly the best one ever, those games were amazing and the crowd at that BlizzCon was RIDICULOUS. John the Translator shed tears for you, man. Respect John the Baptist.
DRG vs. MMA wasn't at Blizzcon. That was Mvp vs MMA. DRG vs. MMA for the most part was actually a pretty mediocre finals with a really good last game. jjakji vs Leenock is probably the best finals overall He also mentions that the trend of finals changed with jjakji vs Leenock which was before the Blizzard cup finals
mvp vs some other terran a while ago and he basically built an entire base outside mvp's natural and set up a siege contain that failed miserably. this was wol and more than a year ago, can't really remember the other t's name. tempted to say line but not completely sure.
On July 13 2013 23:48 Arceus wrote: PuMa proxying 2rax on Caldeum, lifting onto sOs' main and gg. I recall the whole LR thread just died laughing at that rofl the hype around EGTL could never recover after that disaster
oh and HerO failing to wall-off and losing to hydra's slow lings on Cloud Kingdom
haha I remember those. I think MVP vs Tefel game 1 on Neo Planet S was hilarious. Must watch! XD
On July 14 2013 01:30 jubil wrote: Who can forget TheBest banshee control?
TheBest vs MKP GSL Super Tournament, round of 8 as I recall, TheBest basically wasted multiple banshees just flying them straight into turrets and the such, MKP took a super easy 3-0 that series, and I felt awful for being worried.
In terms of the game with the absolute least enjoyment value inherent to the game itself, the answer has to be Naniwa's probe rush against Nestea in the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup, although of course it had a juicy backstory and associated drama.
Also, in general the early GSL finals were awful, the only exceptions being the first one (awesome Fruitdealer storyline) and the second (4-3, young upstart MKP vs old comeback Nestea). Of the bad ones, Nestea vs Inca in GSL May was probably the worst. I believe the trend was reversed with GSL 2011 November's jjakji vs Leenock, though I hear 2012 Season 3 Seed vs MC was bad, and some people really hated all the ZvZ at the end of WoL.
You must be burned at the cross for not mentioning DRG vs. MMA as a good GSL finals. Possibly the best one ever, those games were amazing and the crowd at that BlizzCon was RIDICULOUS. John the Translator shed tears for you, man. Respect John the Baptist.
DRG vs. MMA wasn't at Blizzcon. That was Mvp vs MMA. DRG vs. MMA for the most part was actually a pretty mediocre finals with a really good last game. jjakji vs Leenock is probably the best finals overall He also mentions that the trend of finals changed with jjakji vs Leenock which was before the Blizzard cup finals
genius vs. drg had the best production and the best banter though.
Last three or four games of last wcs kr gsl semis between sOs and Soulkey(that cannon rush defense by soulkey :d). Game two (daybreak) was also really really bad even if it was pretty quick and straight forward.
On July 14 2013 01:30 jubil wrote: Who can forget TheBest banshee control?
TheBest vs MKP GSL Super Tournament, round of 8 as I recall, TheBest basically wasted multiple banshees just flying them straight into turrets and the such, MKP took a super easy 3-0 that series, and I felt awful for being worried.
In terms of the game with the absolute least enjoyment value inherent to the game itself, the answer has to be Naniwa's probe rush against Nestea in the 2011 GSL Blizzard Cup, although of course it had a juicy backstory and associated drama.
Also, in general the early GSL finals were awful, the only exceptions being the first one (awesome Fruitdealer storyline) and the second (4-3, young upstart MKP vs old comeback Nestea). Of the bad ones, Nestea vs Inca in GSL May was probably the worst. I believe the trend was reversed with GSL 2011 November's jjakji vs Leenock, though I hear 2012 Season 3 Seed vs MC was bad, and some people really hated all the ZvZ at the end of WoL.
You must be burned at the cross for not mentioning DRG vs. MMA as a good GSL finals. Possibly the best one ever, those games were amazing and the crowd at that BlizzCon was RIDICULOUS. John the Translator shed tears for you, man. Respect John the Baptist.
DRG vs. MMA wasn't at Blizzcon. That was Mvp vs MMA. DRG vs. MMA for the most part was actually a pretty mediocre finals with a really good last game. jjakji vs Leenock is probably the best finals overall He also mentions that the trend of finals changed with jjakji vs Leenock which was before the Blizzard cup finals
genius vs. drg had the best production and the best banter though.
talking about banter, nothing surpasses Polt dissing MMA/Intel with the line "Im smarter than your CPU" (and he proved it)
One of the worst games I have ever seeen was a WoL tournament match (I don't know the tournament anymore. maybe it was some homestory cup) between Sheth and Tod on Daybreak. God it was so horrible..... In this game Sheth managed to lose like 13 infestors vs a double immortal drop in his main before he just waited another 10 minutes to move his broodfestor deathball towards Tod. Tod gged upon seeing it despite being nearly maxed and on at least 4 bases.
This game was truly one of the worst jokes in foreigner history. Oh my.
Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
I would consider that one of the worst games ever, and yet one of the most hilarious games ever.
What about that game between Coca and Puzzle(?) that one of them threw on purpose?
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
I would consider that one of the worst games ever, and yet one of the most hilarious games ever.
What about that game between Coca and Puzzle(?) that one of them threw on purpose?
Don't you mean CoCa and ByuN or did I miss something?
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
I would consider that one of the worst games ever, and yet one of the most hilarious games ever.
What about that game between Coca and Puzzle(?) that one of them threw on purpose?
It was CoCa and ByuN... ESV TV Korean Weekly the two were friends and a Code A spot was on the line but because CoCa was already in Code S he let ByuN win.
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
I would consider that one of the worst games ever, and yet one of the most hilarious games ever.
What about that game between Coca and Puzzle(?) that one of them threw on purpose?
It was CoCa and ByuN... ESV TV Korean Weekly the two were friends and a Code A spot was on the line but because CoCa was already in Code S he let ByuN win.
IIRC it wasn't like the Brat_OK Stephano series wherein they did terrible strats in hopes of losing. It was just a standard game which CoCa won convincingly, then instead of gg-ing ByuN asked him to leave and CoCa did.
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
I would consider that one of the worst games ever, and yet one of the most hilarious games ever.
What about that game between Coca and Puzzle(?) that one of them threw on purpose?
It was CoCa and ByuN... ESV TV Korean Weekly the two were friends and a Code A spot was on the line but because CoCa was already in Code S he let ByuN win.
IIRC it wasn't like the Brat_OK Stephano series wherein they did terrible strats in hopes of losing. It was just a standard game which CoCa won convincingly, then instead of gg-ing ByuN asked him to leave and CoCa did.
Pretty much yeah. As I said, he let him win. Definitely different in that way though. Both were pretty fucking bad haha
The worst game I ever saw was actually a ladder game that Suppy played against Scarlett on Cloud Kingdom. It involved a 30 minute brood lord standoff.
As far as tournaments go, it doesn't get a lot worse than Huk vs Nestea on Tal'Darim or basically any game Thorzain has played in the last 6 months or so.
That one HSC game (most recent HSC) where it was Thorzain vs. a Protoss player. It lasted FOREEVEEERR and was really boring to watch. I think it was Hasuobs? Anyway it was the spooniest game that ever spooned.
On July 14 2013 06:34 IntoTheheart wrote: That one HSC game (most recent HSC) where it was Thorzain vs. a Protoss player. It lasted FOREEVEEERR and was really boring to watch. I think it was Hasuobs? Anyway it was the spooniest game that ever spooned.
Was that the one thorzain left without a final engagement, too?
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
On July 14 2013 06:34 IntoTheheart wrote: That one HSC game (most recent HSC) where it was Thorzain vs. a Protoss player. It lasted FOREEVEEERR and was really boring to watch. I think it was Hasuobs? Anyway it was the spooniest game that ever spooned.
Was that the one thorzain left without a final engagement, too?
On July 14 2013 05:25 kukarachaa wrote: Brat_ok vs. Stephano, both players already qualified for the next round, both players knew whoever wins would have to face Sen next round, considered by far the best foreign player in that tournament at a time. Both players were doing their best to lose in a series turned into a really bad and good game at the same time.
Come on, that series was entertaining as fuck, especially with the one-base BC rush. ^^
On July 14 2013 01:42 Talionis wrote: That one game Inca played on Terminus against a terran where he had the game lost multiple times over. Then he made a DT which made the terran have a complete meltdown which somehow let Inca come back and win.
oGs.InCa vs. TSL.Rain on Terminus. Worst played game of all time but fun to watch.
There was a game where Moon had like 8 banelings burrowed in close proximity to a terran army, made them all detonate at the same time and killed NO units. It was pretty random to see.
The game wasn't necessarily bad tho, I'm not sure that belongs here.
On July 14 2013 07:14 pigmanbear wrote: Was it Inca who went DT four games in a row vs Nestea in GSL finals? That was pretty bad. Also that awful game where TheBest gifts his Banshees.
Any SC2 game from the first night of hybrid proleague.
Hey now, Inca's got great metagaming. > DT rush a lot > Enemy knows that I DT a lot. > Enemy won't predict a DT rush because I do it so often. > So I'll just keep DT rushing people
there was a particulary bad tvz in the super tournament i am not sure if it was ensnare vs revival, junwi vs virus or jookto vs keen but i am sure it was on Bel'shir beach i think ensnare vs revival
On July 14 2013 08:09 LlamaNamedOsama wrote: ThorZain vs Killer at MLG Winter was pretty bad - took, what, an hour of turtling to win a game that Tzain had already won at 10mins?
Does that not sum up how TFunk plays? I've heard legends of the guy stretching out games endlessly.
On July 14 2013 08:09 LlamaNamedOsama wrote: ThorZain vs Killer at MLG Winter was pretty bad - took, what, an hour of turtling to win a game that Tzain had already won at 10mins?
Speaking of bad ThorZaIN games.
ThorZaIN vs GuineaPig in GSTL (when he played for F.United). GuineaPig rolled Zerg and went Hydras. Unsurprisingly, they got absolutely obliterated by tanks. ^^
On July 14 2013 08:58 TheFlexN wrote: Can you add description of the games because I personaly cant understand why some of the games are the worst.
Context is important for a lot of the games. Naniwa/Nestea probe rush was in a meaningless game in group stage that wasn't going to affect results, but they were forced to play it anyway. So Naniwa selected him probes and right-clicked Nestea's base in protest. Caused a mega shit storm about honorable play and how Naniwa insulted the Korean scene and blah blah blah.
The Nestea/Inca series wouldn't have been considered so bad except for when it was played. It was a GSL final. Nestea wiped the floor with an inferior player who never deserved to make it past the round of 32 but somehow made the finals. He then proceded to embarrass himself and bore everyone else by DT rushing every damn game. Context is important.
On July 13 2013 23:48 Arceus wrote: PuMa proxying 2rax on Caldeum, lifting onto sOs' main and gg. I recall the whole LR thread just died laughing at that rofl the hype around EGTL could never recover after that disaster
oh and HerO failing to wall-off and losing to hydra's slow lings on Cloud Kingdom
That HerO game wasn't him failing to wall off. I can't remember the circumstances but no one walled off walled off on cloud kingdom at that time, they always left the spot for the zealot and HerO did not see the lings coming and lost. Hydra planned that build though because HerO had streamed that strategy before, and that is why the lings took the path they did. It was still an error on HerO's part though, but it wasn't just like Hydra decided to randomly make lings and got lucky, it was planned after an obvious weakness was found.
I recommend SuHoSin vs. Leenock, Ro32 Group A, from the GSL Life won. Both games, Suhosin hard-countered Leenock's 15-hatch with a 10-pool, but both games, made awful, awful mistakes by engaging stacked drones or allowing Leenock to build spines, and lost horribly.
I don't remember when but early violet games were awful. I remember one in I think gstl when he scouted banshees super early and still died to them with no spores. Was on belshir beach I think. That stuck out as one of the worst games I've seen so far.
On July 14 2013 09:52 BlackPanther wrote: How the hell is MKP vs Suoshin one of the worst games? It was non stop excitement and had a great ending.
Haha yeah this was more epic hold my MKP. I mean I guess it was a fail too but I wouldn't call it the worst game.
I mean there was also a game that I think was MKP vs Killer (or some protoss) way back when Wolf first moved to Korea and had to solo cast during an MLG weekend and MKP held a proxy two gate in his main.
Nestea vs Alive on Whirlwind in the final WoL season of code A...
my god I wanted to gouge my eyes out watching that. That was among the worst of Nestea's Zergbong moments.
could also throw in Nestea vs Noblesse on Cloud Kingdom.
That was just agonizing as a Nestea fan, especially after his Iron Squid run. If you listen to Artosis during the cast you can feel his soul die as Nestea goes Ultra/Bl....
Tbh I don't get how is hyvaa vs fantasy is _very_ bad. Failed 6pool is something common, and then just two all-ins... You can whine as you like about all-ins, but hyvaa is A-team STX Soul player, and he is a very good player overall.
On July 14 2013 14:16 BronzeKnee wrote: July vs San, when San blocked his FFE Nexus with his pylon and then proceeded to pull all his Probes to kill it off.
On July 14 2013 14:16 BronzeKnee wrote: July vs San, when San blocked his FFE Nexus with his pylon and then proceeded to pull all his Probes to kill it off.
I think you combined July vs anypro on Terminus with CheckPrime vs San on Delta Quadrant. Both games resulted in a pylon block of the nexus during a forge fast expand.
On July 14 2013 14:16 BronzeKnee wrote: July vs San, when San blocked his FFE Nexus with his pylon and then proceeded to pull all his Probes to kill it off.
I think you combined July vs anypro on Terminus with CheckPrime vs San on Delta Quadrant. Both games resulted in a pylon block of the nexus during a forge fast expand.
If I had a nickel for every time that happens to pros, I'd have like 4 nickels total . By the same token, can we put down every game by Bisu until his comeback after his contract issue was settled?
On July 14 2013 07:42 annedeman wrote: there was a particulary bad tvz in the super tournament i am not sure if it was ensnare vs revival, junwi vs virus or jookto vs keen but i am sure it was on Bel'shir beach i think ensnare vs revival
Nestea vs I can't remember on Antigua shipyard. The game where Nestea went for three hatch before pool and the Terran went for a marine scv all in and move commanded his way into a loss.
Huk vs Moon on that old Gsl map with the in base natural from Dream Hack. Huk's terrible scouting actually won him the game.
Fuzer vs Gowser Asus qualification games were pretty bad, especially the second one where Fuzer begun to build a proxy barrack and almost the same time overlord appeared and Fuzer said GG. That was just played about a week ago. Maybe somebody can find a vod?
The bratok-stephano game iirc was to decide the group winner in a 4 player round robin group. Although they both qualified, they were trying to avoid playing Sen who finished in second place in another group. So we got BC rush vs hatch in opponents nat.
On July 14 2013 17:13 TheSwamp wrote: Nestea vs I can't remember on Antigua shipyard. The game where Nestea went for three hatch before pool and the Terran went for a marine scv all in and move commanded his way into a loss.
Edit: Spelling
Do you mean the game with Sparta where he went 4rax marine scv all-in? I was going to mention that one.
Why is HyuN and Forsen considered bad? I just watched the game and I've seen a lot of streamed zvzs end like that, I didn't think that game was especially bad. TheBest banshees and San's nexus block have to take it for me. I seem to remember a game in the GSL where Huk accidentley cancelled warpgate right before it would've finished.
Revival v Ensnare during i think original GSTL, possibly on Bel'shir. I've never wanted to end my own life before but i considered it during that match.
On July 14 2013 05:06 Sandwichtoast wrote: One of the worst games I have ever seeen was a WoL tournament match (I don't know the tournament anymore. maybe it was some homestory cup) between Sheth and Tod on Daybreak. God it was so horrible..... In this game Sheth managed to lose like 13 infestors vs a double immortal drop in his main before he just waited another 10 minutes to move his broodfestor deathball towards Tod. Tod gged upon seeing it despite being nearly maxed and on at least 4 bases.
This game was truly one of the worst jokes in foreigner history. Oh my.
The game where Hero is on 5-6 bases and can't beat a 3-base broodlord/infestor Leenock. He then gets neural parasited and loses the game after an amazing 10 second engagement. That game killed WOL for me. Thankfully for everyone, I'm unable to find a VOD.
I don't get why hyvaa vs fantasy was such a thing.. it's purely a BO loss nothing else... It's like seing a 11-11 vs pool first or w/e.. you flipp the coin and sometimes lose. And to those saying that he could have come back with all his 5 drones mining gimme a break.. you don't come back vs a player like that after a 6pool doing no damage.
Tasteless laughing and continueosly saying he doesn't understand the point of that build kinda shows his lack of understanding.... and it didn't even seem like he was listening when Artosis tried to explain it was a vs CC first build... it's not like we don't see TONS of cointoss builds that get praised when they work.. no need to discredit them when they don't they are what they are.
On July 13 2013 23:33 SorrowShine wrote: Tastosis mentioned smth of the game where Toss blockes his expo with a pylon.
San did that... I think it was somewhere in the open seasons on delta quadrant.
There was a series of MVPVampire vs ZeNeXSuHoSin in code a, back when monsieur J was the sponsor. That was a really bad, but hilarious series.
I am almost 95% sure it was Xel Naga Caverns where San blocked his expo
I am 100% sure it was the silly map with the super close airdistance... what's it called.. scrap station!
edit: ok apparently it's been done twice cause that's a game on DQ.. but I am 100% sure I've seen a game on scrapstation in early GSL where this happened.
On July 15 2013 07:54 Dreamer.T wrote: I remember this game of Steppes of War where this zerg did the most strangest and silly proxy hatch.
Do you mean the one where the zerg made a proxy hatch by the watchtower (or some other completely random place), made a queen out of the proxy hatch, and tried use it to kill the zealot holding the entrance to the main? Sadly, I can't remember the players, but I'm pretty sure it was in the open seasons of the gsl
edit: HAH looked through all the open seasons to find it but I think it's worth it. Set 1 of Golden vs Squirtle in GSL open season 3, RO32 match 3 http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1401 edit2: to describe the game - PvZ, Golden proxies a hatch at the watchtower and then accidentally puts down an evo chamber instead of a pool. lol
The worst games I've seen were early-beta games (when warpgate could be done at like 4 minutes, lol) or any game that had BitByBit in it - box all units (inc SCVs) early on and a-move to their base? Check!
On July 15 2013 07:54 Dreamer.T wrote: I remember this game of Steppes of War where this zerg did the most strangest and silly proxy hatch.
Do you mean the one where the zerg made a proxy hatch by the watchtower (or some other completely random place), made a queen out of the proxy hatch, and tried use it to kill the zealot holding the entrance to the main? Sadly, I can't remember the players, but I'm pretty sure it was in the open seasons of the gsl
It was either Golden or Yugioh but I think it was Golden. He hid a proxy hatch for a quick zergling rush, and then he built an evolution chamber instead of a spawning pool
On July 15 2013 07:54 Dreamer.T wrote: I remember this game of Steppes of War where this zerg did the most strangest and silly proxy hatch.
Do you mean the one where the zerg made a proxy hatch by the watchtower (or some other completely random place), made a queen out of the proxy hatch, and tried use it to kill the zealot holding the entrance to the main? Sadly, I can't remember the players, but I'm pretty sure it was in the open seasons of the gsl
edit: HAH looked through all the open seasons to find it but I think it's worth it. Set 1 of Golden vs Squirtle in GSL open season 3, RO32 match 3 http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1401 edit2: to describe the game - PvZ, Golden proxies a hatch at the watchtower and then accidentally puts down an evo chamber instead of a pool. lol
Magnificent.
I don't even know how this is supposed to win. Against nexus first? (Lol, on this map?)
On July 15 2013 07:54 Dreamer.T wrote: I remember this game of Steppes of War where this zerg did the most strangest and silly proxy hatch.
Do you mean the one where the zerg made a proxy hatch by the watchtower (or some other completely random place), made a queen out of the proxy hatch, and tried use it to kill the zealot holding the entrance to the main? Sadly, I can't remember the players, but I'm pretty sure it was in the open seasons of the gsl
edit: HAH looked through all the open seasons to find it but I think it's worth it. Set 1 of Golden vs Squirtle in GSL open season 3, RO32 match 3 http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1401 edit2: to describe the game - PvZ, Golden proxies a hatch at the watchtower and then accidentally puts down an evo chamber instead of a pool. lol
Magnificent.
I don't even know how this is supposed to win. Against nexus first? (Lol, on this map?)
I suppose you get the queen there sooner and you can attack the zealot with the queen and the buildings with the lings.
On July 14 2013 13:32 laegoose wrote: Tbh I don't get how is hyvaa vs fantasy is _very_ bad. Failed 6pool is something common, and then just two all-ins... You can whine as you like about all-ins, but hyvaa is A-team STX Soul player, and he is a very good player overall.
I guess you did't watch the STX vs SKT playoffs. You realize they are forced to play a zerg right?
edit: So in other words overall he is a one dimensional and not a very good player
On July 15 2013 07:54 Dreamer.T wrote: I remember this game of Steppes of War where this zerg did the most strangest and silly proxy hatch.
Do you mean the one where the zerg made a proxy hatch by the watchtower (or some other completely random place), made a queen out of the proxy hatch, and tried use it to kill the zealot holding the entrance to the main? Sadly, I can't remember the players, but I'm pretty sure it was in the open seasons of the gsl
edit: HAH looked through all the open seasons to find it but I think it's worth it. Set 1 of Golden vs Squirtle in GSL open season 3, RO32 match 3 http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1401 edit2: to describe the game - PvZ, Golden proxies a hatch at the watchtower and then accidentally puts down an evo chamber instead of a pool. lol
Seriously, the majority of these games aren't "bad" as much as gigantic build order losses. Sometimes both players even gamble but once gets the high end of it and looks like a genius.
I remember there was a game I think it was Ensare vs a Protss on Crossfire where he was doing a 1/1/1 type of all in and he pulled all of his SCVS and literally sat in the middle of the map for two minutes doing nothing, like he wasn't even sieged in a threatening location or anything, dude just sat there waiting for something I guess and he ended up losing because he gave the other guy to much time
also another game I remember was where I believe it was Choya vs a terran on blistering sands, Choya pretty much 4 gated and never expanded until having almost 100+ units of supply than attacked up into the main base through the back doors and won, If I recall Artosis reaction to this game on State of the Game was "You wana talk about fucking bad decision making?"
How about Innovation vs. Myungsik at the IEM VIII Qualifier? Third set, not exactly bad but Myung went for 2 Proxygates while Inno went CC first. Should have been a secured win, but... Myung somehow messed up. Built his pylon at the wrong spot (I believe?).
I don't think that FantaSy vs Hyvaa was that terrible? Hyvaa did a gamble build and it failed because FantaSy opened rax instead of CC first... However I just watched Revival vs Ensnare... wow
On July 18 2013 19:14 DarkLordOlli wrote: How does this not have Dragon vs Cytoplasm from some Dreamhack sometime ago. God that was horrendous
Was that the one where Dragon forced a draw on Antiga by floating a building?
Yeah, I think I watched a queen waddle across the whole map for 2 minutes to try and shoot the building in the corner or smth because Cytoplasm had brainfarted earlier and forgot to make a single air unit while Dragon was already floating buildings around for minutes
I still cant understand why some games are recalled as bad. When people say that a game is bad they say that they dont want to remeber the game because it was bad, but what is bad about it? Give a short description to each game that you list and say what is bad about it, not just "this game they played sucked, its bad", it doesnt help people who dont understand why its bad, like me.
I don't quite remember what game it was, but I still remember Artosis and Tasteless describing the 2 guys as thought they're taking turns throwing themselves down a flight of stairs.
Well on the topic of "not exactly super bad but very hilarious" how could one forget elfi vs. Life @TSL4. Going from almost 3:0:ng Life to failing with consecutive cannon rushes was certainly amusing but also so mind boggling.
Also, the elfi vs. DRG game from DH with the worst forcefields ever, feat Day9 cracking up
That game where BitByBit expanded and then proceeded to marine SCV all-in off 2 bases, showing us they were literally the only units he knew how to use. I don't remember the details exactly I'm not sure if he expanded after a failed 1 base all-in or planned to all-in off 2 bases from the start, but it was terrible.
On July 18 2013 22:40 JoeCool wrote: LoL Rain vs Hyvaa... a single Pylon would´ve saved Rain and won him the game.
no, he didn't have the money.
he had 500 minerals
no, he had 95.
Rain definetly had money.
dunno wot game you guys were watching, but both wolf and khaldor corrected themselves after saying "he needs to build a pylon!!" several times. they quickly came to the conclusion that rain could not afford a pylon given that he only had 95 minerals left, hence why wolf said "he needs 5 minerals!!" to which khaldor added "he can build an assimilator"
None of this sounds like the worse game ever, it just sounds like a very hectic base race. BitbyBit beats that every single time on the terrible scale.
The fact that Stephano denies the gg is pretty indicative of what went on this one. One doesn't see "gg" responded to with "no" too often. I also like that we have Stephano's camera the whole time. His straight face is excellent.
As for terrible games, what about the one at a recent MLG where Thorzain refused to attack a Zerg or even cross the middle of the map (Goswer?) and the casters spent the last third wondering whether they were going to watch the longest game in the tournament's history? Maybe not the most fun fail to watch, but that in itself points to the level of terrible the game brought to the table. The Goswer game where Bomber nuked his own army maybe deserves honorable mention. (It should be mentioned that Newkirk Precinct, the home of both of these, suxxxxx)
On July 14 2013 08:09 LlamaNamedOsama wrote: ThorZain vs Killer at MLG Winter was pretty bad - took, what, an hour of turtling to win a game that Tzain had already won at 10mins?
On July 18 2013 22:40 JoeCool wrote: LoL Rain vs Hyvaa... a single Pylon would´ve saved Rain and won him the game.
no, he didn't have the money.
he had 500 minerals
no, he had 95.
Rain definetly had money.
dunno wot game you guys were watching, but both wolf and khaldor corrected themselves after saying "he needs to build a pylon!!" several times. they quickly came to the conclusion that rain could not afford a pylon given that he only had 95 minerals left, hence why wolf said "he needs 5 minerals!!" to which khaldor added "he can build an assimilator"
Not having BitByBit up there is an insult to the worst players out there! His last two rushes before dropping off into nothing were so very pathetic. How much army is he gonna build this time before pulling everything and rushing ~ Tastosis
Stephano's spine crawler rush against BRAT_OK's 1-base BC rush at Assembly in 2011, when a loss was better for seeding than a win. IIRC, both players tried to GG and had their opponent refuse. I think BRAT_OK eventually won because BCs are good against spines.
On July 20 2013 08:09 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Stephano's spine crawler rush against BRAT_OK's 1-base BC rush at Assembly in 2011, when a loss was better for seeding than a win. IIRC, both players tried to GG and had their opponent refuse. I think BRAT_OK eventually won because BCs are good against spines.
On July 20 2013 08:09 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Stephano's spine crawler rush against BRAT_OK's 1-base BC rush at Assembly in 2011, when a loss was better for seeding than a win. IIRC, both players tried to GG and had their opponent refuse. I think BRAT_OK eventually won because BCs are good against spines.
soO held off a double proxy rax and decided to just go for a one-base baneling all-in. He had six banelings and a ton of zerglings against just two marines and nothing else. So, for no particular reason, he split his banelings up so that the SCV's could repair the wall in between banelings hits. After another failed bust with more banelings, he lost.
On July 23 2013 13:52 PhoenixVoid wrote: soO vs GuMiho game 3. My goodness, I don't even...
For those who didn't watch: soO held off a double proxy rax and decided to just go for a one-base baneling all-in. He had six banelings and a ton of zerglings against just two marines and nothing else. So, for no particular reason, he split his banelings up so that the SCV's could repair the wall in between banelings hits. After another failed bust with more banelings, he lost.
Even worse was how soO botched the Bane bust by failing to finish the bust with that one remaining Baneling which just hung around in the back and watched the Zerglings get shot at.
On July 23 2013 13:52 PhoenixVoid wrote: soO vs GuMiho game 3. My goodness, I don't even...
For those who didn't watch: soO held off a double proxy rax and decided to just go for a one-base baneling all-in. He had six banelings and a ton of zerglings against just two marines and nothing else. So, for no particular reason, he split his banelings up so that the SCV's could repair the wall in between banelings hits. After another failed bust with more banelings, he lost.
Some games are so bad, they're good. Some games are so bad, they're f***ing terrible. In the case of Dragon vs. Cytoplasm from DHS 2012, it's really hard to tell where it falls. Some viewers seemed to find the sheer amount of carnage, confusion, and inability of either player to finish the game to be hilariously entertaining. Others found themselves disgusted by the match, but somehow still glued to their screens like they were watching a gruesome car wreck happen in slow motion. For better or for worse, it was a truly unique match from 2012, and one that just had to be mentioned.
On July 23 2013 20:30 FFW_Rude wrote: Oh, there is also a game with iDra during ... HDH invitational (i think) in the beta where idra's adversary forgot to build units...
But i don't remember who the other player was
That was Ret vs. Idra, and even Ret said, "ooops. Forgot to build units."
On July 23 2013 20:30 FFW_Rude wrote: Oh, there is also a game with iDra during ... HDH invitational (i think) in the beta where idra's adversary forgot to build units...
But i don't remember who the other player was
That was Ret vs. Idra, and even Ret said, "ooops. Forgot to build units."
And iDra said : "No wonder how easy it is to to this shit" or something Good catch. I knew it was ZvZ but didn't remember who it was :p
On July 23 2013 18:01 Nekovivie wrote: So many bad games in the early WoL open seasons, but my best 'worst' series is probably DAVIT vs Genius in Open Season 1.
Inca vs Nestea in the GSL finals...After watching NaDa get cheesed out of a deserved final spot, and then watching Inca proceed to do the exact same thing four times, and get stomped each time...
On July 24 2013 21:22 Sgany wrote: Inca vs Nestea in the GSL finals...After watching NaDa get cheesed out of a deserved final spot, and then watching Inca proceed to do the exact same thing four times, and get stomped each time...
He feared the body...
But yeah that was a depressing final... And the semi final with Nestea was so good... That last game especially. Who was it against ? TheStc ? Damn i have no memory
The Origin of the term "Jobber" by Tasteless.. I almost peed my pants laughing when I found this again.
which set?
The one on shakuras plateau- I don't think artosis has ever criticized someone more than this guy..even more than bitbybit..he literally calls him a diamond league player
The Origin of the term "Jobber" by Tasteless.. I almost peed my pants laughing when I found this again.
which set?
The one on shakuras plateau- I don't think artosis has ever criticized someone more than this guy..even more than bitbybit..he literally calls him a diamond league player
And of course. He won the game xD. Artosis reverse curse.
On July 24 2013 21:22 Sgany wrote: Inca vs Nestea in the GSL finals...After watching NaDa get cheesed out of a deserved final spot, and then watching Inca proceed to do the exact same thing four times, and get stomped each time...
If NaDa deserved it, he should've played better and not died to DTs all the time.
I'm sure NaDa vs. NesTea would've made a better final though ... ugh, InCa.
On July 24 2013 21:22 Sgany wrote: Inca vs Nestea in the GSL finals...After watching NaDa get cheesed out of a deserved final spot, and then watching Inca proceed to do the exact same thing four times, and get stomped each time...
If NaDa deserved it, he should've played better and not died to DTs all the time.
I'm sure NaDa vs. NesTea would've made a better final though ... ugh, InCa.
ugh that nada inca series was heartbreaking.. I think that is my most hated series in all of Sc2. I bet Nada probably wouldnt have retired if it wasn't for that bad luck that season.
On July 14 2013 08:09 LlamaNamedOsama wrote: ThorZain vs Killer at MLG Winter was pretty bad - took, what, an hour of turtling to win a game that Tzain had already won at 10mins?
On July 25 2013 00:43 partydude89 wrote: didn't SoO and Paralyze play a set of games in code A that were pretty bad?
Yes, Paralyze looked like he had marching orders for soO to win or something. He showed terrible games and then went and banged on soO's booth after the match with this really weird grin on his face. He could have been just high as a kite though.
Bitbybit's 2 base scv all in with a raven and marines. That was such a fail all in and the build made absolutely no sense. It was completely embarrassing.
HAHA Stephano vs the battlecruiser rush: BratOK says 'gg' stephano says 'no'. I love doing that on ladder when people do retarded cheeses that would never work. It could of been a gg, but it wasnt
Gumiho vs Jaedong at dreamhack (starts at 44:50). Gumiho goes for a single proxy rax just outside the natural ramp of jaedong and gets immediately scouted. He pulls all his scvs but loses even before his second marine popped out.
ToD vs PiG at dreamhack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFx_5wzDUHM He thinks the map was cross only and proxies 2 gates at the wrong base. The funniest thing is that he doesn't realize until he has 3 zealots.
On July 25 2013 01:29 Steel wrote: HAHA Stephano vs the battlecruiser rush: BratOK says 'gg' stephano says 'no'. I love doing that on ladder when people do retarded cheeses that would never work. It could of been a gg, but it wasnt
Stephano said 'no' because he didn't want the win, not because it was a bad game. They were both trying to throw the game by doing stupid strats...granted, stupid strats that they still executed to the best of their abilities.
There was this really old game of Tester/Trickster back in the day where he held off a double proxy gate at the gold base with only 1 gate zealots. Anyone remember by any chance??
On July 25 2013 17:54 FrodaN wrote: There was this really old game of Tester/Trickster back in the day where he held off a double proxy gate at the gold base with only 1 gate zealots. Anyone remember by any chance??
WoL 2011 - Mondragon vs Slush... euuuugh How can a game that lasted only till the 18 minute mark manage to seem quite so tedious?... maybe because it was effectively over at 5 minutes :/
HotS 2013 - Killer vs Thorzain ... is this the most infuriatingly passive game of all time?.. you be the judge, if you've got an hour to waste, and I do mean waste! :D
There was a game that lasted more than one hour and a half (the longest game ever) in GSL i think (TvT) but i can't remember the names of the player (again) so i don't know if it was mentionned.
What? First's probe micro against proxy reaper was bad, resulting in 5 kills, putting him massively behind. Bomber snowballed a win from there. That's not a bad game, but a poor effort from First.
On July 25 2013 17:54 FrodaN wrote: There was this really old game of Tester/Trickster back in the day where he held off a double proxy gate at the gold base with only 1 gate zealots. Anyone remember by any chance??
Is this some kind of a running joke on TL? It certainly is well exectued - I spend 30 minutes in suspense wating when the "worst game" part of that game starts, but it never happened. It is actually one of the most fun games of SC2 I have ever seen. Surely, mistakes have been done, but overall the idea of a game with relatively smaller armies in neverending battle everywhere is how I imagine a RTS should look like.
edit: this thread is full of gold, I will probably go on and watch EVERYTHING. I just finished rain vs. hyvaa on Belshir and I already recommended it to friends!
I can't believe no one's mentioned the Scarlett ZvZ in the EG Master's Cup Team League in WoL. It was hour long ZvZs with broodling vs broodling action that broke Incontrol. The most boring games and the most hilarious casting I can remember. I'm fairly sure it was against Slayers Miya, unfortunately, I can't find the vods and the Liquipedia link is dead, http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Results_and_VODs/Week6/?match=110/ . Does someone know if there's a vod somewhere? I really want to hear Incontrol in tears again.
On August 20 2013 11:56 Vaftrudner wrote: I can't believe no one's mentioned the Scarlett ZvZ in the EG Master's Cup Team League in WoL. It was hour long ZvZs with broodling vs broodling action that broke Incontrol. The most boring games and the most hilarious casting I can remember. I'm fairly sure it was against Slayers Miya, unfortunately, I can't find the vods and the Liquipedia link is dead, http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Results_and_VODs/Week6/?match=110/ . Does someone know if there's a vod somewhere? I really want to hear Incontrol in tears again.
IIRC, Scarlett also participated in an infested Terran-broodling war with Suppy in EGMCL in which one of them asked something to the effect of "What do we do now?" as all of the free stuff was at war.
On July 25 2013 22:12 FFW_Rude wrote: There was a game that lasted more than one hour and a half (the longest game ever) in GSL i think (TvT) but i can't remember the names of the player (again) so i don't know if it was mentionned.
It was a pretty cool game by both players for the most part...THEN it reaches a clear point where Lucifron experiences an agonizing death animation for 30 minutes. I mean it even gets to the low that Khaldra run out of things to even say about the game, and Rick Astley makes an appearances.
I mean I see Symbol vs RorO up there, which was very well played by both players but just had an incredibly boring moment. So I'd think this one should certainly qualify, as it was much worse.
On August 20 2013 11:56 Vaftrudner wrote: I can't believe no one's mentioned the Scarlett ZvZ in the EG Master's Cup Team League in WoL. It was hour long ZvZs with broodling vs broodling action that broke Incontrol. The most boring games and the most hilarious casting I can remember. I'm fairly sure it was against Slayers Miya, unfortunately, I can't find the vods and the Liquipedia link is dead, http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Results_and_VODs/Week6/?match=110/ . Does someone know if there's a vod somewhere? I really want to hear Incontrol in tears again.
This is the best worst game ever. I farmed this strategy on this map up until the map is removed from ladder and I got up to 90% winrate on this map from 5%.
One of the worst series in history has to be kkOma (AKA LittleBoy) vs ButterflyEffect in the RO32 of the very first Code A. May very well be the worst TvT series in history. Not even in a boring way, more like in an "attack moving your army into rows of sieged up tanks" way. Towards the end of the game on Xel'Naga Caverns Artosis formally dubbed the series "Jobber vs. Jobber."
Bomber v.s Gowser from MLG Dallas 2013 on newkirk city.
Award for: Best game to turn awful half way through
Last 20 minutes are literally Bomber prolonging the game by flying his turbovacs around, I remember there was a huge influx "Medivacs are OP and stupid" in the LR thread as a result of this. Which sucks because ti was a good game for the first 45 minutes, and then just collapsed into one of the worst game's in history.
This is the best worst game ever. I farmed this strategy on this map up until the map is removed from ladder and I got up to 90% winrate on this map from 5%.
I auto winned against this as terran quite often. Even if it resulted in the hilarious float to the corner and hope the opponent doesn't know how to expand and counter the inevitable BCs.
Now that WoL is ancient history, I feel like that GSL game of five base hero vs 3 base leenock where leenock wins might be a good candidate for here. It probably resulted in the most "BLINFESTORIMBA" cries out of any game I can recall.
On September 12 2013 06:13 TheDougler wrote: Now that WoL is ancient history, I feel like that GSL game of five base hero vs 3 base leenock where leenock wins might be a good candidate for here. It probably resulted in the most "BLINFESTORIMBA" cries out of any game I can recall.
I don't think that was necessarily a "terrible game" though at least from what I remember.
Probably not a worst of all time level game but Super vs Solar on Habitation Station in Code A the other night was pretty hard to watch. Even the casters gave up on trying to sell the game as good.
Any game on Daedulus ever. Blizzard is truly incompetent for even allowing this map into the pool. I think I may be done with this game because of their raw, ignorant arrogance.
I give props to life for not picking Daedulus saying that it was too unfair for zerg. He looks like he will earn his spot in Code S the honorable way without exploiting raw map imbalance.
Absolutely disgusting on Blizzard's part that they ruin people's actual careers by putting such a broken map into the pool.
On January 22 2014 16:17 Diogenes wrote: Any game on Daedulus ever. Blizzard is truly incompetent for even allowing this map into the pool. I think I may be done with this game because of their raw, ignorant arrogance.
I give props to life for not picking Daedulus saying that it was too unfair for zerg. He looks like he will earn his spot in Code S the honorable way without exploiting raw map imbalance.
Absolutely disgusting on Blizzard's part that they ruin people's actual careers by putting such a broken map into the pool.
It serves its purpose by skewing the matchup percentages so that overall, the game looks more balanced.
On January 22 2014 16:17 Diogenes wrote: Any game on Daedulus ever. Blizzard is truly incompetent for even allowing this map into the pool. I think I may be done with this game because of their raw, ignorant arrogance.
I give props to life for not picking Daedulus saying that it was too unfair for zerg. He looks like he will earn his spot in Code S the honorable way without exploiting raw map imbalance.
Absolutely disgusting on Blizzard's part that they ruin people's actual careers by putting such a broken map into the pool.
Is GSL not responsible for their own map pool? Sure, its a bad map but I'm sure Blizzard didn't force GSL to use it in their tournaments.
On January 22 2014 16:17 Diogenes wrote: Any game on Daedulus ever. Blizzard is truly incompetent for even allowing this map into the pool. I think I may be done with this game because of their raw, ignorant arrogance.
I give props to life for not picking Daedulus saying that it was too unfair for zerg. He looks like he will earn his spot in Code S the honorable way without exploiting raw map imbalance.
Absolutely disgusting on Blizzard's part that they ruin people's actual careers by putting such a broken map into the pool.
imagine how progamers must feel when the balance is broken, not including the maps.
On January 22 2014 16:17 Diogenes wrote: Any game on Daedulus ever. Blizzard is truly incompetent for even allowing this map into the pool. I think I may be done with this game because of their raw, ignorant arrogance.
I give props to life for not picking Daedulus saying that it was too unfair for zerg. He looks like he will earn his spot in Code S the honorable way without exploiting raw map imbalance.
Absolutely disgusting on Blizzard's part that they ruin people's actual careers by putting such a broken map into the pool.
Is GSL not responsible for their own map pool? Sure, its a bad map but I'm sure Blizzard didn't force GSL to use it in their tournaments.
It's a good question. In the past, I'd expect that the answer is of course GSL chooses its own maps. But now that GSL is part of WCS, which is organized by Blizzard, I'm not so sure.
On January 22 2014 16:17 Diogenes wrote: Any game on Daedulus ever. Blizzard is truly incompetent for even allowing this map into the pool. I think I may be done with this game because of their raw, ignorant arrogance.
I give props to life for not picking Daedulus saying that it was too unfair for zerg. He looks like he will earn his spot in Code S the honorable way without exploiting raw map imbalance.
Absolutely disgusting on Blizzard's part that they ruin people's actual careers by putting such a broken map into the pool.
Is GSL not responsible for their own map pool? Sure, its a bad map but I'm sure Blizzard didn't force GSL to use it in their tournaments.
It's a good question. In the past, I'd expect that the answer is of course GSL chooses its own maps. But now that GSL is part of WCS, which is organized by Blizzard, I'm not so sure.
One point for WCS in 2014 was that ladder and WCS maps are equal, so pros go on ladder and everyone can play the WCS maps etc. On the other hand they said that GSL will be more independent so not sure if they can use other maps. I just hope that in the end GSL can bring some maps into the ladder and not the other way round hehe.
I still found this to be one of the more entertaining drawn-out swarmhost games that I've watched. Reality definitely had a chance to win the game but it was up Soulkey to stop him.
I still found this to be one of the more entertaining drawn-out swarmhost games that I've watched. Reality definitely had a chance to win the game but it was up Soulkey to stop him.
Yea definitely, the first 1hr20mins was actually pretty good, and the rest of it felt kind of tense because stuff was actually kind of dying very slowly before Bravo realised he couldn't win and had to hide up a ramp.
I still found this to be one of the more entertaining drawn-out swarmhost games that I've watched. Reality definitely had a chance to win the game but it was up Soulkey to stop him.
Yea definitely, the first 1hr20mins was actually pretty good, and the rest of it felt kind of tense because stuff was actually kind of dying very slowly before Bravo realised he couldn't win and had to hide up a ramp.
On January 19 2014 11:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: huh, I thought Rain vs Hyvaa on bel'shir was pretty fun actually. Even though it's a throw. I mean if that meets the criteria for worst then:
Symbol vs Myungsik g2 on Yeonsu should probably be on the list too. Symbol fucked that up at least 3 times, but the game was very fun.
Regardless, the real reason of posing, and I can't believe I don't see it yet (less I'm having a reading comprehension fail):
HerO vs. Scarlett on Daybreak I believe where Scarlett has nothing but 1 spine crawler left standing under her Infestor Brood Lord and HerO can't kill it but refuses to leave the game.
On March 06 2014 10:33 Sorathez wrote: Wasn't there a game in one of the GSL open seasons where a guy pylon-blocked his own nexus? I can't seem to remember who it was though.
On March 06 2014 10:33 Sorathez wrote: Wasn't there a game in one of the GSL open seasons where a guy pylon-blocked his own nexus? I can't seem to remember who it was though.
Roro vs Life Match 1 Set 1 from GSL Code S round of 16 Group A. Quite possibly the worst game played. Actually played. Naniwa 6 probe rushing is not a played game imo
On February 12 2014 21:08 3point14 wrote: omg, canonrushing without forge is my favorite! i guess he had a realistic chance of the other one leaving when the pylons got up
It was some no-name against State in MLG Anaheim Open Bracket in 2013 right?
On February 12 2014 21:08 3point14 wrote: omg, canonrushing without forge is my favorite! i guess he had a realistic chance of the other one leaving when the pylons got up
It was some no-name against State in MLG Anaheim Open Bracket in 2013 right?
On February 12 2014 21:08 3point14 wrote: omg, canonrushing without forge is my favorite! i guess he had a realistic chance of the other one leaving when the pylons got up
It was some no-name against State in MLG Anaheim Open Bracket in 2013 right?
it was weedamins
When I think of the name weedamins, I think of a high Ugandan dictator.
2011 Killer vs July game 1 of the COH semifinals. Killer went for a forge expand but blocked his own nexus then july went all in upoon seeing it and failed. edit found it. not exactly how I remember but hilarious. go to the 2:51:00 mark
On February 12 2014 21:08 3point14 wrote: omg, canonrushing without forge is my favorite! i guess he had a realistic chance of the other one leaving when the pylons got up
It was some no-name against State in MLG Anaheim Open Bracket in 2013 right?
On March 06 2014 18:40 Circumstance wrote: Game 2 of Maru vs. Zest that just happened just might be a contender. I think Tasteless was right in saying that was the shortest game in GSL history.
Why? There were no mistakes. Just a giant risk that didn't pay off.
On March 06 2014 19:06 CutTheEnemy wrote: maru vs zest was a waste of every viewer's time. It is a fine candidate for this thread.
Please elaborate.
In base proxy barracks at 8 supply that gets scouted and Maru GG's. game lasted not even 2 minutes real time.
Then again, highest rated game ever?
Poll: Recommend Zest vs. Maru Game 2?
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (182)
92%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (4)
2%
★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (1)
1%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (10)
5%
197 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Zest vs. Maru Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On March 06 2014 19:06 CutTheEnemy wrote: maru vs zest was a waste of every viewer's time. It is a fine candidate for this thread.
It created a minute or two of hype and excitement and the GG came very shortly after the excitement ended.
IMO even a game where one player just GG'd at the 3 minute mark (say accidentally cancelled an early structure) is still not a waste of time (although it would be a bad game).
On March 06 2014 18:40 Circumstance wrote: Game 2 of Maru vs. Zest that just happened just might be a contender. I think Tasteless was right in saying that was the shortest game in GSL history.
On March 06 2014 19:44 Xoronius wrote: I just noticed, that this is missing a real classic: GoOdy vs Nerchio during some online cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvZsdCPWiw
<Just watched it. Its ridiculous. Almost like canon rushin without the forge.
Anyone else not able to see the old videos? I´m having issues since they are all on YouTube now and the link doesn´t redirect me to the right video and I also have hard time finding the videos.
On March 06 2014 19:44 Xoronius wrote: I just noticed, that this is missing a real classic: GoOdy vs Nerchio during some online cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvZsdCPWiw
<Just watched it. Its ridiculous. Almost like canon rushin without the forge.
Wtf. It's really a mystery to me how Goody managed to ever be called a "pro player" ;D
On March 06 2014 19:44 Xoronius wrote: I just noticed, that this is missing a real classic: GoOdy vs Nerchio during some online cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvZsdCPWiw
<Just watched it. Its ridiculous. Almost like canon rushin without the forge.
Wtf. It's really a mystery to me how Goody managed to ever be called a "pro player" ;D
He hits second place in every cup at this season's EPS, maybe that helps.
On March 06 2014 19:44 Xoronius wrote: I just noticed, that this is missing a real classic: GoOdy vs Nerchio during some online cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvZsdCPWiw
<Just watched it. Its ridiculous. Almost like canon rushin without the forge.
Wtf. It's really a mystery to me how Goody managed to ever be called a "pro player" ;D
He hits second place in every cup at this season's EPS, maybe that helps.
Beating Nestea at his prime helps a bit too. That was in 2011 when everyone sucked but still pretty badass.
On March 06 2014 19:44 Xoronius wrote: I just noticed, that this is missing a real classic: GoOdy vs Nerchio during some online cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvZsdCPWiw
<Just watched it. Its ridiculous. Almost like canon rushin without the forge.
Wtf. It's really a mystery to me how Goody managed to ever be called a "pro player" ;D
Maybe because he gets payed for playing the game? That´s actually the definition of professional.
On May 04 2014 13:19 Circumstance wrote: To complete the unholy trinity of the 2-hour Swarm Host, I submit for your approval, Stephano vs. Petraeus at Lone Star Clash 3.
+1 You should make a poll of this, too. To make it more official and stuff
Solidifies everything we know about why it's such a garbage unit.
I would love for there to be a change - Swarm Host costs 150/200 (from 200/200), costs 1 mineral to spawn two locusts, there's a "do not spawn" button that can be activated. You could also use that to active and trap enemy units, might be cool. Or to hide your swarm hosts if they're caught out of position and you want to hide / burrow them until the enemy leaves.
There were 2 games I remember, I think both involved Idra, one where his opponent killed his own command center with siege tanks then Idra gg'd, and another (I think from the same MLG) where he gg'd out to a bunch of hallucinated void rays when he had the game won.
Then again, those might be so bad they're good, but from a competitive viewpoint it was shit.
On May 05 2014 05:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I just saw that 3-hour game, holy shit can I have my three hours back?
welcome to hots.
I mean there are good long games. JD usually plays nice 40 minute ZvP's. And in my own personal experience games have been rather short compared to WoL.
This is simply the huge equivalent of a boring WoL game where P has carriers and Z broodlords, or a boring BW PvT where P is trying to find a way to flank the Terran tank line.
On May 05 2014 06:57 deth2munkies wrote: There were 2 games I remember, I think both involved Idra, one where his opponent killed his own command center with siege tanks then Idra gg'd, and another (I think from the same MLG) where he gg'd out to a bunch of hallucinated void rays when he had the game won.
Then again, those might be so bad they're good, but from a competitive viewpoint it was shit.
On May 05 2014 14:41 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Not unique to stephano at all lol... such as the recent tournament regame that involved swarmhosts
Yes there was that one Soulkey/Reality proleague game, but it really is much more Stephano than everyone else put together. Zergs right now are showing great ways that you can use swarm hosts aggressively; Soulkey just crushed Flash in Proleague by using swarm host pincer attacks (attacking mech armies from the back with banelings while locusts eat the tank shots from the front). Stephano intentionally tries to make games last as long as possible. Amazing that he still has any fans at all, I guess (as IdrA and NaNiwa's careers demonstrate), if you're a foreigner who even has the slightest shot against Koreans (though let's be honest IdrA didn't even have that past early 2011), foreign fans will love you no matter how obnoxious you are.
On May 05 2014 14:41 BreakfastBurrito wrote: Not unique to stephano at all lol... such as the recent tournament regame that involved swarmhosts
Yes there was that one Soulkey/Reality proleague game, but it really is much more Stephano than everyone else put together. Zergs right now are showing great ways that you can use swarm hosts aggressively; Soulkey just crushed Flash in Proleague by using swarm host pincer attacks (attacking mech armies from the back with banelings while locusts eat the tank shots from the front). Stephano intentionally tries to make games last as long as possible. Amazing that he still has any fans at all, I guess (as IdrA and NaNiwa's careers demonstrate), if you're a foreigner who even has the slightest shot against Koreans (though let's be honest IdrA didn't even have that past early 2011), foreign fans will love you no matter how obnoxious you are.
xD, the thing is idra and stephano aren't really obnoxious. Idra had some emotional issues that snowballed from his inferiority complex of zerg since early wings of liberty, aside from that hes an interesting and cool guy.
The stream peaked in viewers when the swarm host vs swarm host happened, it was HILARIOUS to see. Now, if this happened every game it would be a travesty, but that little bit to me was quite entertaining and I was hoping it would break the record.
GSL circa 2011. I it was a game on Crossfire by theBest I think. The Terran went for a proxy blue flame hellion into banshee but lifted off the factory about 2 second before the upgrade finished. They then proceeded to lose everything.
This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
It really is a shame that idiot gets so many viewers. Check out the second game in that series as well, pretty entertaining even though virtually no starcraft was played lol
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
It really is a shame that idiot gets so many viewers. Check out the second game in that series as well, pretty entertaining even though virtually no starcraft was played lol
Yeah, that's the one I meant to link. Game 1 was pretty bad, too.
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
It really is a shame that idiot gets so many viewers. Check out the second game in that series as well, pretty entertaining even though virtually no starcraft was played lol
Yeah, that's the one I meant to link. Game 1 was pretty bad, too.
I think this is a case where it doesn't matter which of the two games you post. Either way, your contribution is valid. They are both pretty dreadful. Rotterdam's reaction in the second game is pretty great.
There was a GSL game ( i think ), were somebody 6pooled in altarzim, he entered the correct enemy base but missed the CC ( Or nexus? ) and he left... then he scouted the other 2 bases and realized he was f... up. Somebody?
On June 06 2014 07:45 Gchzr wrote: There was a GSL game ( i think ), were somebody 6pooled in altarzim, he entered the correct enemy base but missed the CC ( Or nexus? ) and he left... then he scouted the other 2 bases and realized he was f... up. Somebody?
This happened during the latest code A stork vs pet game 3. It was a big fail but that's not quite the same as 'worst game'
Hey guys, I got hooked by the "Min vs TheBest on crossfire, never forget" in the RB battleground preview, but can't find the vod anywhere, gomtv redirects me to their youtube channel which only has 2014 stuff...
Any tips on how to see this game, or has it disappeared forever?
On July 11 2014 16:20 Gwavajuice wrote: Hey guys, I got hooked by the "Min vs TheBest on crossfire, never forget" in the RB battleground preview, but can't find the vod anywhere, gomtv redirects me to their youtube channel which only has 2014 stuff...
Any tips on how to see this game, or has it disappeared forever?
On July 11 2014 16:20 Gwavajuice wrote: Hey guys, I got hooked by the "Min vs TheBest on crossfire, never forget" in the RB battleground preview, but can't find the vod anywhere, gomtv redirects me to their youtube channel which only has 2014 stuff...
Any tips on how to see this game, or has it disappeared forever?
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
Thanks for posting that here - I totally missed it and it was worht a good laugh
On July 11 2014 16:20 Gwavajuice wrote: Hey guys, I got hooked by the "Min vs TheBest on crossfire, never forget" in the RB battleground preview, but can't find the vod anywhere, gomtv redirects me to their youtube channel which only has 2014 stuff...
Any tips on how to see this game, or has it disappeared forever?
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
Thanks for posting that here - I totally missed it and it was worht a good laugh
O, wow. I heard of this and thought it would have been a Knowme-hidden-proxy-Nexus, but this is just on the next level. That is psychological warefare in it's purest form, entirely playing the player and not the game. I applaud HuK for having the balls to do this.
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
Thanks for posting that here - I totally missed it and it was worht a good laugh
O, wow. I heard of this and thought it would have been a Knowme-hidden-proxy-Nexus, but this is just on the next level. That is psychological warefare in it's purest form, entirely playing the player and not the game. I applaud HuK for having the balls to do this.
Yes. Replace TB/Artosis here with another pair of casters that doesn't go crazy on games that are actually boring and in this proces deceive unlogical-thinking viewers, and this game is comparable to your standard lame Raven vs Swarm Host avilo game.
But credit due to TB/Artosis for this. I always believe it was the casters job to entertain viewers (because that's why most of us watch SC2), but that doesn't mean the game was good. I am just annoyed by viewers who cannot seperate high casting quality with high game quality and in this proces makes misinformed comments on forums.
Maru?'s game when he opened proxy 2 rax and failed to kill a Zerg who opened 3 hatch before pool because he decided to shoot at the expo instead of going up the ramp...
On July 11 2014 20:37 vidium wrote: For me, Flash is the most overrated player in SC2. He didint win anything and people still consider him some sc2 god.
SC2 Flash is like super-YongHwa: great in team leagues, can't win in individual leagues.
I for one really agree with the post above re long swarm host games: just because a game goes an hour that doesn't automatically mean it's epic. Most swarm host vs mech games are completely unwatchable to me. I think people go nuts over them because terrans are so rare and mech is even rarer so any long game with mech is a novelty. No one thinks long swarm host vs colossus games are great and swarm host vs mech is five times as turtly and slow. Only difference is how often they occur.
This isn't even unique to HotS: in WoL people would go nuts over the occasional PvZ where P would take 45 minutes to build a crazy void ray carrier deathball (and then inevitably get stomped by mass corruptor/fungal). Only reason is that otherwise we almost never saw any significant numbers of void rays or any carriers. They were unusual games but very rarely good games.
On July 11 2014 16:20 Gwavajuice wrote: Hey guys, I got hooked by the "Min vs TheBest on crossfire, never forget" in the RB battleground preview, but can't find the vod anywhere, gomtv redirects me to their youtube channel which only has 2014 stuff...
Any tips on how to see this game, or has it disappeared forever?
On June 06 2014 05:57 Solar424 wrote: This game between Huk and Avilo from the Red Bull qualifiers. It certainly can be filed under "mental breakdown." Some context: in the previous game, Huk built a proxy nexus next to Avilo's CC. Huk cancels the nexus, then Avilo sends all his marines and SCV's to Huk's base, which Huk then forcefielded. Avilo then complains about Protoss and rage quits.
ROFL WTF? :D
The best part is when he moans about how the casters are "spinning it" at the start of the second game, telling them that they need to be honest. No, Avilo, you lost because you're a dolt. Stop complaining :S
Hahahahaha game 1 was classic, he knows 100% Huk is on one base with a mothership core so he decides to marine scv all in him. What did he expect???
On July 11 2014 16:20 Gwavajuice wrote: Hey guys, I got hooked by the "Min vs TheBest on crossfire, never forget" in the RB battleground preview, but can't find the vod anywhere, gomtv redirects me to their youtube channel which only has 2014 stuff...
Any tips on how to see this game, or has it disappeared forever?
On July 11 2014 20:52 Figgy wrote: Maru?'s game when he opened proxy 2 rax and failed to kill a Zerg who opened 3 hatch before pool because he decided to shoot at the expo instead of going up the ramp...
Taeja goes highground CC-first, Life goes 6pool. All Taeja needs to do is wall off and repair his supply depots while he waits for his barracks to finish. So he spams "R" on his SCVs to repair. Sadly he accidentally selects a depot while spamming "R", and lowers it :S
On July 17 2014 14:20 tokinho wrote: Can i nominate the avilo game from today? in the wcs america qualifier. I made a 12 minute condensed version of it.
Lol... Dude's head is so messed up... You can hear him trying to rationalize how even though he's claiming its a draw he would still win if they play it out...
Horrible Terran play. No imbalance to be found here, just 1 guy (DRG) playing 2-3 levels better than the other. Idle workers, next to no multitask, pitiful defense, and little to no attempt to reduce DRG's insane creep spread.
It wouldn't be much of an exaggeration to say DRG wasn't threatened at any stage of either game. If anyone remembers Bogus vs aLive from the first wcs season finals (one of the most one-sided series I've ever seen) this is on that level.
On July 17 2014 14:20 tokinho wrote: Can i nominate the avilo game from today? in the wcs america qualifier. I made a 12 minute condensed version of it.
On July 17 2014 14:20 tokinho wrote: Can i nominate the avilo game from today? in the wcs america qualifier. I made a 12 minute condensed version of it.
On July 17 2014 14:20 tokinho wrote: Can i nominate the avilo game from today? in the wcs america qualifier. I made a 12 minute condensed version of it.
Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as fuck when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as fuck when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as fuck when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
No. It'¨s not accusation at this point. It's good enough to call it evidence/proof here. I would in fact bet my house on it. Let me ask you this: What is the probability of Marineking not seeing that Spine?
That alone is less than 0.00001%... Because it has never happened in any bronze + game.
Combine that with odds going crazy once again in favour of Byul and we are down to 0.00000000000001% of MKP not throwing it int.
When we are speaking of these types of probabilities, it's no longer speculation, but we are into evidence.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
No. It'¨s not accusation at this point. It's good enough to call it evidence/proof here. I would in fact bet my house on it.
Proof is an email, or skype conversation or something that directly shows he was paid to throw the match. You have a theory backed by some evidence but it's not irrefutable "proof."
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
No. It'¨s not accusation at this point. It's good enough to call it evidence/proof here. I would in fact bet my house on it.
Proof is an email, or skype conversation or something that directly shows he was paid to throw the match. You have a theory backed by some evidence but it's not irrefutable "proof."
If that was the only way to have evidence, then alot of murderes and thiefs would walk on the street. On top of that, you could always argue someone else wrote the email to keep the 0.0001% probaiblity alive.
FYI, definition of evidence = the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
'He didn't check his minimap, man.'
Right, because that's just something you forget about for five minutes.
This exactly. I was actually looking at him during the game in order to see if he was looking somewhere else on the screen, but he wasn't. And when your looking at the screen you instantly notice it on the minimap.
Honestly the fact that he scouted the spine and didn't react (he's a pro player not a bronze brain dead player, there is no way he just didn't notice) as well as the betting line movements is more than enough evidence. There should be an investigation/punishment/ban for life.
The match was CLEARLY fixed, he threw the game on purpose.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
There was also suspicious betting activity on Pinnacle on that match which caused Pinnacle to void the bets. That combined with the mindboggling level of cluelessness Marineking displayed in the match is a very questionable combination.
even if he hasn't seen the spine, it just doesn't make sence that he goes 3CC after scouting no expo from the zerg. I hate to say it because MK is one of my favourite players but when combined with the betting lines it's almost 100% sure that the game was fixed.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
There was also suspicious betting activity on Pinnacle on that match which caused Pinnacle to void the bets. That combined with the mindboggling level of cluelessness Marineking displayed in the match is a very questionable combination.
On March 25 2015 02:27 Charoisaur wrote: even if he hasn't seen the spine, it just doesn't make sence that he goes 3CC after scouting no expo from the zerg. I hate to say it because MK is one of my favourite players but when combined with the betting lines it's almost 100% sure that the game was fixed.
Yeh you could argue that "doesn't make sense" thing is a typically Marineking flaw (I still think that would be debateable, but it's not impossible). But not seeing the minimap on the other hand while staring on the screen and nothing else happening.... that's a different matter...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
There was also suspicious betting activity on Pinnacle on that match which caused Pinnacle to void the bets. That combined with the mindboggling level of cluelessness Marineking displayed in the match is a very questionable combination.
How often have we been through this though?
This is the first time in history that a pro player hasn't noticed a critical building on the minimap for over a minute. We have never ever seen this type of mistake before. This simply cannot be explained by the irrationalty of Marineking.
On March 25 2015 02:07 Hider wrote: This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
SO : with the stress, the frustration, with the fact that the dot was pretty small in the mini-map, also that it seems like he really was assuming hard that the proxy was in front of his natural or something like that and that he didn't seem to suspect the rocks at all (he would've sent an scv if he did) and so that he was probably looking elsewhere on the mini-map, it's possible to think that a top tier player could not see this. And of course, a silver (up to diamond), most of the time, would not have seen it either.
What stress and frustration? He was just macroing in his base. Anyway, even with the counterpoints people are making that basically say that progamers can make ridiculous mistakes too, I agree with that, but my point is that it's the level of play Marineking displayed COMBINED with the Pinnacle betting patterns that is so suspicious.
Let's all go to this thread if you guys want to talk about it more in accordance with the mod's wishes.
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where somethg that was very obvious on the minimap for over a minute without a reacetion from the player. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that.
It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. And perhaps also stress of him being in a situation that could ruin his career. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable, and given the circumstances it makes a lot of sense.
he scouted no gas, not pool first, and no natural... it should have been very very obvious to a pro there was a hatchery somewhere. then he does... rax , cc, fac , cc...
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that.
It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that.
It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable.
I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there.
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that.
It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable.
I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there.
I still don't know what LR means.
It's the thread I linked to in my previous post in this thread.
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that.
It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable.
I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there.
I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
This. I was more than entertained, but then again I'm not French.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
The fact it was a series in the most prestigious tournament of the year makes it the worst IMO.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
The fact it was a series in the most prestigious tournament of the year makes it the worst IMO.
So much this. It's the Global Finals and you lose to a 6 pool lol. I mean, it is Life but still.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
The fact it was a series in the most prestigious tournament of the year makes it the worst IMO.
So much this. It's the Global Finals and you lose to a 6 pool lol. I mean, it is Life but still.
Well, it was a foreigner, merely ro16 and not even the actual Blizzcon. I think InCa takes the cake here as it was his silliness that constantly failed. Besides, it took a lot longer.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
The fact it was a series in the most prestigious tournament of the year makes it the worst IMO.
So much this. It's the Global Finals and you lose to a 6 pool lol. I mean, it is Life but still.
Well, it was a foreigner, merely ro16 and not even the actual Blizzcon. I think InCa takes the cake here as it was his silliness that constantly failed. Besides, it took a lot longer.
Yeah I agree, NesTea vs InCa was far more terrible... What makes the Lilbow - Life series so frustrating is Lilbow's attitude out of the game, the series in itself was just a great player showing how if you can wipe the floor with someone quickly, you'd better do it.
Okay I watched the VOD and what TLO said what a spot on. Always keep saying "I want to be the best later, I will prepare from now". The retard had the chance infront of him! "But oh, HotS will be done after this so no point". So why did you play so hard in WCS season 3? It was the last season of HotS? Why Innovation and herO worked so hard to win the GSL and the SSL? Were they silly for not practicing LOTV?
Stop joking yourself, how ahead do you think you will be if you played a month or two ahead of KeSPA? They will ANNIHILATE you once they make the transition, just like they did before after transitioning later from BW to SC2.
On November 03 2015 01:23 WrathSCII wrote: Stop joking yourself, how ahead do you think you will be if you played a month or two ahead of KeSPA? They will ANNIHILATE you once they make the transition, just like they did before after transitioning later from BW to SC2.
He was probably already thinking about DH where he could make another 5k due to its small Korea quota. By that time the stampede should be in motion.
I don't know guys, if Symbol vs RorO, a fantastic game, made it here, I don't see a reason for someone losing to a scouted 1 base baneling bust in PvZ not to.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
Considering what Lilbow said pre and post-match it gets EVEN MORE satisfying, honestly.
On November 03 2015 00:16 True_Spike wrote: I think Lilbow vs Life deserves to be on the list.
Agreed, for a few reasons:
1. Objectively speaking, the series wasn't even close. It was incredibly one-sided. 2. I personally think that compared to the other Ro16 series, it was an outlier in how bad and uninspiring the games were. 3. Yadda yadda Lilbow's dismissive legacy yadda yadda.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
Considering what Lilbow said pre and post-match it gets EVEN MORE satisfying, honestly.
The part about Life "wanting to cheese every game" made me smile.
Bro it's motherfucking Life, he's going to kill you with Zerglings. Everyone knows it, prepare for it or die.
On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote: I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
I also thought it was hilarious, but I don't think that stops it from being bad.
It was bad, but not the worst. Remember hyvaa vs. Fantasy?
hyvaa fanta was one of my favorite series of all time. so fucking legendary
On November 04 2015 01:18 stuchiu wrote: I nominate LIlbow vs Life
I second. Definitely the one where he didn't check his back rocks. Possibly the worst game I've ever seen.
Can I nominate Life vs herO on KSS? The game where herO defends 8pool easily and then dies to a slowling allin despite having vision of the rocks at his backdoor
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so if somebody would find appropriate links for at least some of the mentioned games would be cool.
Goswser vs 
LucifroN game 3 at ASUS ROG Summer 2013
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