On July 04 2013 08:12 Greendotz wrote: I admit, I’m a total eSF fanboy and watch basically no Proleague (due to time zone nonsense and what-not) but are Rain and Flash really that good? I mean I read their reasons for retaining their 4th and 3rd spots respectively but it seems like a little bit of biased to me. Are there any Kespa fanboys out there who can help me see the light?
You should watch some of the recommended VODs. They're all free and available on their YouTube channel right away. The casting is generally pretty atrocious, but the level of play makes up for it in spades imo.
LOL at the innovation one. I really hate how far Life has fallen, but I think he will be back to his old prime soon enough . Though I'm confused why Flash is so highly ranked, I really don't think he deserves that rank, unless I just haven't seem him recently.
On July 04 2013 08:31 xluik wrote: I feel that Fantasy and Jangbi should be lower, at least below MVP. Polt shouldn't even be there with the way he macro in his final game vs hyun, floating that much minerals.even though winning. He was just ahead of the meta this time with his hellbats maruder and hellion timings. Polt also bombed out of Dreamhack Stockhom earlier, dropping games to Grubby, Huk and Snuffles.
Dreamhack Stockholm was in April.
Well point still stands with how well he plays. If he deserves a mention, Stardust would be in that list too since he won most of games because the opponents reacted badly to him.
I would drop fantasy off the list he just doesnt have the accomplishments yet. Tons of other qualified players deserve to be a bit higher maybe immvp up one spot or someone else from proleague?
Jangbi, Fantasy, sOs high placed in the top 10 while Parting is not even in it... Results are important, but results in individual leagues even more I feel.
On July 04 2013 07:37 giririsss wrote: Pretty terrible list.
Nice Kespa heavy bias.
How to make top5 on TL PR, play pro-league and do mediocre everywhere else.
The TL PR becomes more irrelevant.
Yea since eSF players are better than KeSPA players!
OH wait.
Yeah, cause rain and flash did so much last season in WCS KR... oh wait.
I don't even mind the first two, but rain and flash being up there is just lacking any substance to it. It's just showing old bias with no legitimacy.
And i'm not arguing for Lifes inclusion. He's in a slump and playing poorly.
But others have done more than flash/rain and are ranked lower for no reason other than they don't play pro-league, which is just dumb as all of the mid-tier pro-league guys are most certainly not hands down better than everyone else and have regularly proven so.
On July 04 2013 07:37 giririsss wrote: Pretty terrible list.
Nice Kespa heavy bias.
How to make top5 on TL PR, play pro-league and do mediocre everywhere else.
The TL PR becomes more irrelevant.
Yea since eSF players are better than KeSPA players!
OH wait.
Yeah, cause rain and flash did so much last season in WCS KR... oh wait.
I don't even mind the first two, but rain and flash being up there is just lacking any substance to it. It's just showing old bias with no legitimacy.
And i'm not arguing for Lifes inclusion. He's in a slump and playing poorly.
But others have done more than flash/rain and are ranked lower for no reason other than they don't play pro-league, which is just dumb as all of the mid-tier pro-league guys are most certainly not hands down better than everyone else and have regularly proven so.
Placing higher in a single tournament last season doesn't merit a higher placing in of itself. Who deserves to be 3rd/4th instead?
the 3rd/4th place rankings are being done mostly on faith that we know that they are the 3rd/4th best players, this was done a lot on the BW power rankings where a player like flash could have a bad month but still stay in the top 2.
I think monk did a really good job considering the difficulty of placing players that don't play in proleague, GSTL is far too irregular to be used in a monthly power rank. The only thing I would change is put mvp #7 and fantasy #8.
On July 04 2013 09:14 Mensol wrote: wow too many esf players in top 10.
Hahaha.
But seriously, I can't really think of that many stellar esf players, especially that performed well in June. In that sense, I think this list is pretty accurate, but I don't think Fantasy and perhaps even Jangbi shouldbe higher than Mvp.
Thanks, I missed tis kind of thing, it is a really nice thing to scour the old BW ranking to see some gems (how Soulkey was strong in the end of BW, or how Bogus and MVP made some appearances)
On July 04 2013 07:37 giririsss wrote: Pretty terrible list.
Nice Kespa heavy bias.
How to make top5 on TL PR, play pro-league and do mediocre everywhere else.
The TL PR becomes more irrelevant.
Yea since eSF players are better than KeSPA players!
OH wait.
Yeah, cause rain and flash did so much last season in WCS KR... oh wait.
I don't even mind the first two, but rain and flash being up there is just lacking any substance to it. It's just showing old bias with no legitimacy.
And i'm not arguing for Lifes inclusion. He's in a slump and playing poorly.
But others have done more than flash/rain and are ranked lower for no reason other than they don't play pro-league, which is just dumb as all of the mid-tier pro-league guys are most certainly not hands down better than everyone else and have regularly proven so.
holy hell. . . lol. Are you arguing that there are eSF players better than Flash?
On July 04 2013 07:37 giririsss wrote: Pretty terrible list.
Nice Kespa heavy bias.
How to make top5 on TL PR, play pro-league and do mediocre everywhere else.
The TL PR becomes more irrelevant.
Yea since eSF players are better than KeSPA players!
OH wait.
Yeah, cause rain and flash did so much last season in WCS KR... oh wait.
I don't even mind the first two, but rain and flash being up there is just lacking any substance to it. It's just showing old bias with no legitimacy.
And i'm not arguing for Lifes inclusion. He's in a slump and playing poorly.
But others have done more than flash/rain and are ranked lower for no reason other than they don't play pro-league, which is just dumb as all of the mid-tier pro-league guys are most certainly not hands down better than everyone else and have regularly proven so.
holy hell. . . lol. Are you arguing that there are eSF players better than Flash?
Don't like the list either, but maybe thats because i put more emphasis on being present in tournaments and still be a badass. Instead of poking benchers in the cellar just to play one map every week, which of course will look super badass then. Or maybe I am still to used to flash playing like flash in that system.
On July 04 2013 07:37 giririsss wrote: Pretty terrible list.
Nice Kespa heavy bias.
How to make top5 on TL PR, play pro-league and do mediocre everywhere else.
The TL PR becomes more irrelevant.
Yea since eSF players are better than KeSPA players!
OH wait.
Yeah, cause rain and flash did so much last season in WCS KR... oh wait.
I don't even mind the first two, but rain and flash being up there is just lacking any substance to it. It's just showing old bias with no legitimacy.
And i'm not arguing for Lifes inclusion. He's in a slump and playing poorly.
But others have done more than flash/rain and are ranked lower for no reason other than they don't play pro-league, which is just dumb as all of the mid-tier pro-league guys are most certainly not hands down better than everyone else and have regularly proven so.
holy hell. . . lol. Are you arguing that there are eSF players better than Flash?
Come to think of it, when was the last time Flash beat any top esf pro?I think Taeja might be better than Flash. He is better than Fanta for sure.
On July 04 2013 07:37 giririsss wrote: Pretty terrible list.
Nice Kespa heavy bias.
How to make top5 on TL PR, play pro-league and do mediocre everywhere else.
The TL PR becomes more irrelevant.
Yea since eSF players are better than KeSPA players!
OH wait.
Yeah, cause rain and flash did so much last season in WCS KR... oh wait.
I don't even mind the first two, but rain and flash being up there is just lacking any substance to it. It's just showing old bias with no legitimacy.
And i'm not arguing for Lifes inclusion. He's in a slump and playing poorly.
But others have done more than flash/rain and are ranked lower for no reason other than they don't play pro-league, which is just dumb as all of the mid-tier pro-league guys are most certainly not hands down better than everyone else and have regularly proven so.
holy hell. . . lol. Are you arguing that there are eSF players better than Flash?
Come to think of it, when was the last time Flash beat any top esf pro?I think Taeja might be better than Flash. He is better than Fanta for sure.
Right. . . because Flash isn't 2-0 vs Taeja in proleague.
EPT
. Though I'm confused why Flash is so highly ranked, I really don't think he deserves that rank, unless I just haven't seem him recently.
