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Nayth
Profile Joined May 2012
France17 Posts
June 24 2013 21:07 GMT
#1
Hello,

I have been an avid starcraft player for years (followed the scene since GSL open seasons and master terran player on EU) and I am also a passionnate comic artist : )

To make starcraft and e sport in general more appealing to a wider audiance, this community should work on making it accessible and attractive to other people who would not understand video games by means of other media.

I worked a bit on this 'manga-webcomic' with this goal in mind cus I would love to grow the scene as much as possible !

Do you think Blizzard would actually support / finance this kind of project ? I would love to invest my time into this project ...
if not, what is it lacking ?

thank you all !

here are 5 chapters I did for the fun but I still think I can do much better !
link :
LINK TO WEBCOMIC

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thanks for your comments <3
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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 24 2013 21:15 GMT
#2
Blizzard probably wont support you directly with money, perhaps some coverage if you catch someones eye. I think in general you have to find your own audience and then figure out how to make money from it. T-shirt sales, donations, ads, sticker sales and such is how its been done in the past by others.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 21:25:36
June 24 2013 21:23 GMT
#3
I'd definitely read and support a starcraft comic. The only problem I see is how you're going to make money off of it. Blizzard most likely wont support you directly, and since they own the ip, they probably wont let you sell items and/or get ad money either.. You could always contact them and ask of course. I think you might have something good here.

edit: oh yeah. You might want to look at getting an editor as well. Your english is..basic at best. Not strictly wrong in any way (some typos, but I don't mind those), just awkward to read.
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
June 24 2013 21:27 GMT
#4
This is great.

I don't think you could get financial support from Blizzard or anything (and there might be some intellectual property concerns if you try to monetize it at all). But if you wanted to do it as a community project, I'm sure tons of people would be interested. Your style is quite good.
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Jade
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland289 Posts
June 24 2013 21:30 GMT
#5
This.
Is.
Awesome.
@KRN_Jade "Patience is a small price to pay for perfection."
Valon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States329 Posts
June 24 2013 21:31 GMT
#6
cool I like it
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
June 24 2013 21:36 GMT
#7
I don't want to discourage you. But think of it this way, Blizzard already have many very talented artist and story writers working for them, I doubt you can sell a comic to a business like Blizzard.
GhostFiber
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia88 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 21:57:18
June 24 2013 21:53 GMT
#8
You seem like a passionate guy. Unfortunately as others have mentioned you are probably best making a comic for something else unless you want to do it 100% free as a casual hobby.

Regardless of the moral or legal implications, it is a hit or miss. Blizzard are not like Valve, they do go after their fans. There have been various cases of Blizzard going after those who have made game-guides for World Of Warcraft and even add-ons, all because those fans wanted donations for their efforts.

There was also a case of someone calling their Starcraft custom map 'World of Starcraft', and he got hit by lawyers. Lucky Riot games (creators of LoL) offered him a job. Not sure if he picked it up, but as you can see Blizzard have zero interest in fans doing anything other making generic free content and playing their games.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 22:00:55
June 24 2013 21:58 GMT
#9
On June 25 2013 06:53 GhostFiber wrote:
You seem like a passionate guy. Unfortunately as others have mentioned you are probably best making a comic for something else unless you want to do it 100% free as a casual hobby.

Regardless of the moral or legal implications, it is a hit or miss. Blizzard are not like Valve, they do go after their fans. There have been various cases of Blizzard going after those who have made game-guides for World Of Warcraft and even add-ons, all because those fans wanted donations for their efforts.

There was also a case of someone calling their Starcraft custom map 'World of Starcraft', and he got hit by lawyers. Lucky Riot games (creators of LoL) offered him a job. Not sure if he picked it up, but as you can see Blizzard have zero interest in fans doing anything other making free content and playing their games.


I think its important to note that StarCrafts gets a lot of love and support from Blizzard. Probably not regularly in terms of money but I'm sure they contracted something for that WCS video he did. If you keep at it and it gets popular you can monetize it somehow. Will it be a cash cow? Probably not. but if its fun and you enjoy it and it gives you enough to cover a nice night out once in a while go for it.

also, I do like it and I think its awesome. But you need an english speaker to review your work. I can see some French sneaking in and causing some spelling errors
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Marathi
Profile Joined July 2011
298 Posts
June 24 2013 22:01 GMT
#10
I'd give it a shot, Blizzard seem to have been a lot more fan friendly since SC2 (especially HotS) promoting eSports. I mean hell Carbot has even managed to get his own in-game avatar.

Whilst I don't think they will support you directly either, unless you get into a position like Carbot where your popularity is too great to ignore, I'd still suggest giving it a darn good go!
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Trojanoz
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia22 Posts
June 24 2013 22:09 GMT
#11
On June 25 2013 06:36 forumtext wrote:
I don't want to discourage you. But think of it this way, Blizzard already have many very talented artist and story writers working for them, I doubt you can sell a comic to a business like Blizzard.


Wait talented story writers you cant be serious the story line has been kindergarten level at best - The single player story line was amazingly bad -- so so so so bad it was embarrassing
I thought I made a mistake once but I was wrong
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 24 2013 22:17 GMT
#12
While it's not bad at all, I really dislike your purple coloring and the size of the font used. It's horrible on my eyes ><
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 24 2013 22:20 GMT
#13
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 24 2013 22:29 GMT
#14
Don't know where you'd be able to take this, but props for the effort you've put in. Really cool even if it doesn't go the places you'd like it to.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12499 Posts
June 24 2013 22:32 GMT
#15
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 24 2013 22:35 GMT
#16
Nice work my friend.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
June 24 2013 22:38 GMT
#17
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go


Make it like Akagi or Kaiji and focus on the intense mindgames. Man, I may just go watch Akagi again.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 24 2013 22:39 GMT
#18
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go

Dead God appears to some random Asian dude and help him to become GrandMaster?
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 24 2013 22:50 GMT
#19
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Bro, have you seen Beyblades?

It is literally just about battle-dradles and children screaming "WOOOOHHHHHHHHHUUUHHHHHHHH" for 15 minutes until one dradle stops spinning. If that can be as successful as it is with its mangas, animes, toys, and games; SC2 should have no problem.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 23:06:16
June 24 2013 23:05 GMT
#20
On June 25 2013 07:50 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Bro, have you seen Beyblades?

It is literally just about battle-dradles and children screaming "WOOOOHHHHHHHHHUUUHHHHHHHH" for 15 minutes until one dradle stops spinning. If that can be as successful as it is with its mangas, animes, toys, and games; SC2 should have no problem.

You forgot the major appeal of Bayblades in that description. It's all about those monsters in the tolls (forgot the name) so they can "control" them while fighting. Making a computer game in a manga/anime sounds really hard tbh unless you put a major twist on it (.hack franchise/Sword arts online)
Lolimaiko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States29 Posts
June 24 2013 23:11 GMT
#21
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.
Susceptible to lolis
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 23:38:24
June 24 2013 23:18 GMT
#22
HOLY SHIT DUDE I REMEMBER THIS


I **** LOVED YOUR WEBCOMIC but I forgot about it completely after a long hiatus


Man this is sweet, got 5 more chapters to read now, I just LOVED the premise of it and how you set it up was just perfect, exactly like I imagined and wanted the story to be like.

Thanks for posting this again man!

Edit: I am blazing trough the chapters and I am absolutely loving it, this is really quality material, please keep doing them! This gives me more motivation to play starcraft than most other things. I don't really know why, but for some reason this really strikes home with me, and I actually get emotional reading it.
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Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
June 24 2013 23:21 GMT
#23
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.


It depends on how you decide to do it. You can include a lot of tension in preparing a build order before a match, for instance. The hardest thing to me would actually be displaying the action in an entertaining way. How do you showcase awesome (or even average?) micro in a comic without just saying "ohh, look at him micro those marines!"

To do it well would take some insane talent I think.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 24 2013 23:22 GMT
#24
On June 25 2013 08:21 Dismay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.


It depends on how you decide to do it. You can include a lot of tension in preparing a build order before a match, for instance. The hardest thing to me would actually be displaying the action in an entertaining way. How do you showcase awesome (or even average?) micro in a comic without just saying "ohh, look at him micro those marines!"

To do it well would take some insane talent I think.

Mouse/Keyboard on fire homie.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 23:43:28
June 24 2013 23:42 GMT
#25
The image bonus section is priceless, seeing cameo of idra, lucifron, tlo and later way down the line flash etc would be adorable and great.

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Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
June 24 2013 23:42 GMT
#26
i gotta stop reading from right to left like a japanese manga... this seems to be left to right.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 24 2013 23:46 GMT
#27
Is the starcraft magazine that gets printed time to time still going? Maybe get in touch with them to have some pages dedicated for a chapter.


I would love Team liquid to have a little ''monthly starcraft webcomic'', and this just fits the bill.
Got to be possible to give this more exposure somehow.
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 24 2013 23:50 GMT
#28
On June 25 2013 08:21 Dismay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.


It depends on how you decide to do it. You can include a lot of tension in preparing a build order before a match, for instance. The hardest thing to me would actually be displaying the action in an entertaining way. How do you showcase awesome (or even average?) micro in a comic without just saying "ohh, look at him micro those marines!"

To do it well would take some insane talent I think.


As a HUGE fan on BW battle reports--I have to say that RTS games translate well to tactical comic style.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12499 Posts
June 24 2013 23:54 GMT
#29
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.

I still think you can do that in a similar way, you just need to make sure the pacing isn't too slow for the theorycrafting.
something like
action action
his units are over here, I can drop there to manipulate his army movement
action action

you can also do his day off like maybe trolling in 4v4 or doing sponsor videos etc or even streaming and streaming sniping would be quite fun
There are more fast paced games (sport) that were made into manga pretty successfully, don't see why sc2 would be an issue
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 25 2013 00:02 GMT
#30
On June 25 2013 08:54 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.

I still think you can do that in a similar way, you just need to make sure the pacing isn't too slow for the theorycrafting.
something like
action action
his units are over here, I can drop there to manipulate his army movement
action action

you can also do his day off like maybe trolling in 4v4 or doing sponsor videos etc or even streaming and streaming sniping would be quite fun
There are more fast paced games (sport) that were made into manga pretty successfully, don't see why sc2 would be an issue


Prince of tennis and hajime no ippo comes to mind


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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:09:21
June 25 2013 01:09 GMT
#31
On June 25 2013 08:22 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:21 Dismay wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.


It depends on how you decide to do it. You can include a lot of tension in preparing a build order before a match, for instance. The hardest thing to me would actually be displaying the action in an entertaining way. How do you showcase awesome (or even average?) micro in a comic without just saying "ohh, look at him micro those marines!"

To do it well would take some insane talent I think.

Mouse/Keyboard on fire homie.



Super sayjan macro mode engaged
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 25 2013 01:18 GMT
#32
On June 25 2013 10:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:22 Dosey wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:21 Dismay wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.


It depends on how you decide to do it. You can include a lot of tension in preparing a build order before a match, for instance. The hardest thing to me would actually be displaying the action in an entertaining way. How do you showcase awesome (or even average?) micro in a comic without just saying "ohh, look at him micro those marines!"

To do it well would take some insane talent I think.

Mouse/Keyboard on fire homie.



Super sayjan macro mode engaged


JD loses game 1 vs some noob like Goku fucking around with some chobo.
Gets his rape-face on and goes SSJ3 on him, wins 3-1 with APM-Level 1000.

I think they'd have to do away with the blonde-haired blue-eyed concept though, no Korean wants to go full foreigner while playing Starcraft.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
June 25 2013 01:20 GMT
#33
On June 25 2013 08:22 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:21 Dismay wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:11 Lolimaiko wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:32 ETisME wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:20 StarStruck wrote:
Gaming doesn't really make for a good webcomic unless you were to mix in the actual units and shit or go pure humor. Carbots works and although you are a decent drawer, I think there are more areas you can explore like penny arcade or something >_<

Nah I have to disagree.
Imagine a starcraft comic similar to Hikaru no go would be epic
Any of you don't know that manga, it's awesome and about the broad game go



That would be pretty amazing, but turn-based games such as Chess, Mahjong, and Go are easier to portray in a comic medium due to their pacing. Hikaru no Go would often spend many panels, pages, or chapters discussing the importance of critical plays and mental states for single moves let alone whole games and matches. If you stop to discuss significant moves in Starcraft, you have to disrupt the fast-paced nature of the game to talk about it. There would be no consistent flow; Action action action, theorycraft, analysis, catch up on the action you missed during analysis, and so on. Speaking of speed. Capturing the speed of the game, the units and decision-making is also a challenge if you want to make a comic about the game itself. Overall, you'd need more than just good artistic skills if you want to make something like this popular.

Still waiting for the Starcraft version of The Legend of Koizumi.


It depends on how you decide to do it. You can include a lot of tension in preparing a build order before a match, for instance. The hardest thing to me would actually be displaying the action in an entertaining way. How do you showcase awesome (or even average?) micro in a comic without just saying "ohh, look at him micro those marines!"

To do it well would take some insane talent I think.

Mouse/Keyboard on fire homie.


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In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 02:12:22
June 25 2013 02:11 GMT
#34
This webcomic is progressing way too fast imo.
It's only chapter 5, and the protagonist has already fought his rival 2 times already, and is a top 100 ladderer...
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 25 2013 02:18 GMT
#35
Wow this is seriously awesome. Keep at it, it'll gain cult popularity first!
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 25 2013 02:25 GMT
#36
No idea why the comic made an mlg look more exciting than the actual event lol...
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 25 2013 02:30 GMT
#37
On June 25 2013 11:11 ProV1 wrote:
This webcomic is progressing way too fast imo.
It's only chapter 5, and the protagonist has already fought his rival 2 times already, and is a top 100 ladderer...


You can easily say it's just master ladder or something like that, his rival just got a deal for progamer aswell.

The suits with the dirty esport money was hilarious
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 25 2013 02:31 GMT
#38
Haven't read it fully. But yeah this some g00t shit. Keep it up
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 02:37:35
June 25 2013 02:37 GMT
#39
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I keep reading it from right to left and it's killing me.

edit: and apparently I'm not alone. ^^;

nice job, OP.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 25 2013 03:17 GMT
#40
Awesome comic, dude!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Miksu
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland13 Posts
June 25 2013 03:44 GMT
#41
Well if you are a passionate comic artist you shouldn't be in need of some financial assistance from Blizzard or anyone else. Looking at your portfolio I can see that you're a very capable artist but I can't say the same from the comic. Every page looks something that was done in an hour(the foreshortenings I see there give me headaches) and the story progression is bad and the characters need a lot of work. Also there are typos that even I'm able to notice. It feels like an unfinished draft for something bigger I don't know if that's what you're going for for now but I'd expect a ''passionate comic artist'' to put more effort into this. So at least to get me to read this the art and the story really need to go up a couple of notches. What I see now is a messy comic that tries to be a Starcraft version of those clichéd shonen sports mangas. I know you can do better and I hope you will, good luck.
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SehWho
Profile Joined July 2012
69 Posts
June 25 2013 03:47 GMT
#42
The art is very good, but the dialogue sounds a bit unnatural. I feel like this has more potential if it focuses more on inside the game. (as in the units and what's actually going on rather than just a dude clicking and describing it) Either way, it's visually interesting and I love it.
High[5]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
June 25 2013 04:06 GMT
#43
amazing so far!
OSM.OneManArmy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States509 Posts
June 25 2013 05:05 GMT
#44
ME GUSTA :D
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
June 25 2013 08:02 GMT
#45
Beautifully done!
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
June 25 2013 08:09 GMT
#46
Cool idea, but get rid of the manga style imo... use proper anatomy.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
June 25 2013 08:46 GMT
#47
Great idea! Now, how do we grow webcomics?
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Reality-
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark20 Posts
June 25 2013 09:15 GMT
#48
Cool comic I enjoyed it.

but you should really go over the dialog again. You have a ton of grammar mistakes.
And you might consider using contractions, don't instead of do not and so on, sounds less forced in speech
Fairon
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation80 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 09:40:03
June 25 2013 09:36 GMT
#49
Man it looks AWESOME! Totally approve the idea of starcraft webcomic!
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 25 2013 11:34 GMT
#50
finished reading and i loved it absolutely
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kemihan
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil16 Posts
June 25 2013 13:45 GMT
#51
Good stuff.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 25 2013 17:09 GMT
#52
I am really surprised something like this hasn't already been done in korea etc
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
June 25 2013 17:53 GMT
#53
"MATZ JUST WON THE THUG OF WAR"
Might want to fix that. The comic is super cool though, keep it up.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Nayth
Profile Joined May 2012
France17 Posts
June 26 2013 00:14 GMT
#54
Thanks a lot for the feedback everyone ! be it positive or negative !
I understand that this comic is aimed towards teenagers ... but I still have plenty of more 'mature' subject I'd like to incorporate about psychology, competition and all this stuff : ) hopefully I could aim a good balance. I just experimented a lot with this webcomic as it was my first big project !

English is not my mother tongue :C and I hardly ever speak this language at all ... and I'm too shy to ask anyone to correct my text anyway ...

My drawing style is still developing a lot ... you should also note that making 70 pages of comic takes a LOT of time. Time that I currently cannot waste for nothing :C I still work on other projects so one day I can live from drawing ... so bare with the low quality :X

this apply to drawing as well as starcraft of course !
[image loading]

if there are some byun's fan in the audiance : p

[image loading]
metric.system
Profile Joined May 2013
United States20 Posts
June 26 2013 00:52 GMT
#55
That's amazing work.
I think the art style and quality are perfectly appropriate for this wonderful idea.

If anything, get someone to help with the writing; there's a mountain of material to make a esports themed webcomic fly but you can't half ass it with just your average sempiternal tale told through starcraft-tinted glasses. I'm sure there'd be plenty of people willing to help.

Best of luck!
xHadoken
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States171 Posts
June 26 2013 09:50 GMT
#56
Really enjoyed reading this! You have my support! Keep up the good work!
Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 26 2013 10:55 GMT
#57
Hoping desperately for a cameo soon, maybe by watching starcraft on TV and he sees Idra or Mvp and gets inspired

Really stoked for next chapter!
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3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 11:10:24
June 26 2013 11:08 GMT
#58
woah the style of drawing totally gets me!!
please make the comic!!
hope youre also as talented with storytelling as with drawing.

I think you will have no problems making money with it, cause it will get very high traffic and you can run ads from pokersites or whatever! if you include nice parts with Naniwa and Idra the traffic will explode!
a arrangement with blizzard should be possible.

there was a comic called +EV (poker related) and it was like the only pokercomic available and I guess with ads the guy had a pretty good income over years. it was done in 1pagejoke segments though which is much easier to enjoy during a small break or so


Good luck!

edit: come on that drawing style is ridicolously good, its gotta be used somewhere.
also youre gonna get a lot of respect from the sc2 community
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
June 26 2013 11:23 GMT
#59
Read it, loved it.

Keep up the goodwork
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8150 Posts
June 26 2013 11:28 GMT
#60
On June 26 2013 09:14 Nayth wrote:
English is not my mother tongue :C and I hardly ever speak this language at all ... and I'm too shy to ask anyone to correct my text anyway ...


Luckily, you're in a community filled with people who would gladly do this for you
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 26 2013 12:17 GMT
#61
I don't like manga style. If it would be more how Don Rosa draws it would be awesome.

But in comics has to be joke or story but I don't see good story in your opening post..
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
June 26 2013 17:13 GMT
#62
On June 26 2013 21:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I don't like manga style. If it would be more how Don Rosa draws it would be awesome.

But in comics has to be joke or story but I don't see good story in your opening post..


Complete disagree Don Rosa is perfect for Donald Duck, but not for this sort of thing. This bares much more similarity to things like Prince of Tennis, yu gi oh or Hajime no ippo.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8150 Posts
June 26 2013 17:41 GMT
#63
On June 27 2013 02:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 21:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I don't like manga style. If it would be more how Don Rosa draws it would be awesome.

But in comics has to be joke or story but I don't see good story in your opening post..


Complete disagree Don Rosa is perfect for Donald Duck, but not for this sort of thing. This bares much more similarity to things like Prince of Tennis, yu gi oh or Hajime no ippo.


Also, to be fair, only Don Rosa can do Don Rosa style comics.
Lip the Pencilboy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Italy420 Posts
June 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#64
nice comic and very solid drawer! cool
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Nayth
Profile Joined May 2012
France17 Posts
July 03 2013 22:07 GMT
#65
hehe thanks for all the comments, I hope you still had fun reading this :3
here are some bonus drawings for TL ^o^

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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
July 03 2013 22:17 GMT
#66
I always thought that it would be cool to make a Starcraft anime. It would be like any sports/game anime like the ones about soccer or mah jong. Beyblades is another good example. It could be done lol.

But yeah this webcomic is pretty cool.
Pais
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
July 10 2013 17:30 GMT
#67
Can we get more chapters please! DO want!
Lephex
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany153 Posts
July 10 2013 18:02 GMT
#68
On June 26 2013 21:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I don't like manga style. If it would be more how Don Rosa draws it would be awesome.

But in comics has to be joke or story but I don't see good story in your opening post..


damn don rosa !!! Love it
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