Glad the warp prism change came through, should make pro-protoss games more enjoyable to watch and as a terran player, I don't mind so much. Obviously it's going to be 'harder' than before, but not something unreasonable so it will be a nice challenge :D.

Was looking forward to the shift between the Hellbat and the Banshee (as I already like getting blue flame

, and loved banshee play in WoL) but guess I'll just have to wait. I assume they aren't 100% on the Banshee change and didn't want to nerf the Hellbat without buffing the Banshee to make up for it, which is a little bit different, but I can't complain

Atlas247

Canada318 Posts

June 20 2013 00:20 GMT

#162

Yay we get something on par with the Supermedivacs. Finally I can do something lategame.

ZeromuS

Canada13389 Posts

June 20 2013 00:22 GMT

#163

On June 20 2013 07:04 Akusta wrote:

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Especially not 30 barracks with an option of either Marines/Marauder for deployment.

Hah. By the time I have 30 Gateways, I will have Speed Upgrade researched and it will be the same speed as a speed prism is now on the live patch. This is just a buff to the non-upgraded warp prism. It makes it just a little more maneuverable a little bit earlier its not like we get the super speed prisms immediately and will have 30 gates and no tech up at the 10 minute mark :/

Kovaz

Canada233 Posts

June 20 2013 00:22 GMT

#164

...yay, I guess? As a Protoss player, I feel like this is really not the right direction to be buffing Protoss. There are so going to be so many more warp prism shenanigans in PvP now, and I feel like this won't really make PvT better. Terran drops in PvT are too strong in my opinion, but making Protoss drops also too strong won't make it any more fun to play or watch.

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

June 20 2013 00:22 GMT

#165

That's cool. Having alternatives to death balling is good

Jaded.

United States125 Posts

June 20 2013 00:24 GMT

#166

this is really just a bandaid fix, I'm still of the opinion that protoss needs a redesign instead of these small bandaids. Personally I would start with removing warpgate and buffing gateway units so that they're more than just a meat shield (and a bad one at that) for your colossus or templars. Obviously that change would need a lot of testing to find out just how big a buff and how big a nerf robo/stargate units will take. But this might just be me wishing for SC:BW HD edition.

Ben...

Canada3485 Posts

June 20 2013 00:26 GMT

#167

Time to try the new and improved Turbo MANtrain. It's like the old man train but has Paul Walker driving the warp prism yelling "NOOOOOOOOOSSSS"

Quakecomm

United States344 Posts

June 20 2013 00:26 GMT

#168

So when does Zerg get their hyper op drop mechanic? When will nydus worms have more than 3 heath?

aZealot

New Zealand5447 Posts

June 20 2013 00:29 GMT

#169

On June 20 2013 08:19 Nerski wrote:
I've figured out how to end the arguing between T and P and I'm sure Z soon too.

The WarpOverVac !!!! Cary your units, warp them in! Heal them! speed boost it's all yours!.....for 1523423 easy payments of 9.99 plus shipping and handling.

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I lol'd, hard, at work. Nice one, mate. Thanks, that was a good giggle. :D

Atlas247

Canada318 Posts

June 20 2013 00:33 GMT

#170

On June 20 2013 09:26 Quakecomm wrote:
So when does Zerg get their hyper op drop mechanic? When will nydus worms have more than 3 heath?

There's this unit called the Mutalisk...

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

June 20 2013 00:34 GMT

#171

On June 20 2013 09:33 Atlas247 wrote:

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There's this unit called the Mutalisk...

Not a drop mechanic lol.

I hope zerg gets an op drop mechanic soon :D

Atlas247

Canada318 Posts

June 20 2013 00:40 GMT

#172

On June 20 2013 09:34 blade55555 wrote:

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Not a drop mechanic lol.

I hope zerg gets an op drop mechanic soon :D

Man no one in these threads can take a joke.

TeslasPigeon

464 Posts

June 20 2013 00:40 GMT

#173

I don't think this will help protoss much at all, this will just create a few new all-ins for a race that relies heavily on gimmicks. Units such as the zealot, stalker, voidray, colossus, carrier, mothership/core, and immortal need to be entirely redesigned; or perhaps introduce some new units (reaver, hint hint).

Billinator

United States86 Posts

June 20 2013 00:41 GMT

#174

On June 20 2013 07:01 FXOTheoRy wrote:

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speed medivacs same problem

however, medivacs have 8 marines. warp prism warps in 10-20 zealots, you are fucked unless your army is in position. also when medivac speed is on cooldown it has speed of 3.5. Warp prisms are faster than that at 3.9

JSK

United States133 Posts

June 20 2013 00:41 GMT

#175

On June 20 2013 06:55 Durmaz21 wrote:
This is pretty dumb ^^

when can we get to the point where we agree amongst ourselves that all three races need to be good, even if they're not the ones we play?

Elldar

Sweden287 Posts

June 20 2013 00:41 GMT

#176

On June 20 2013 09:24 Jaded. wrote:
this is really just a bandaid fix, I'm still of the opinion that protoss needs a redesign instead of these small bandaids. Personally I would start with removing warpgate and buffing gateway units so that they're more than just a meat shield (and a bad one at that) for your colossus or templars. Obviously that change would need a lot of testing to find out just how big a buff and how big a nerf robo/stargate units will take. But this might just be me wishing for SC:BW HD edition.

Redesign of a fundamental mechanic will probably never occur, eventhough wg is a stupid mechanic which mitigate defenders advantag. Taking away defenders advantage force the nerf on the gateway units or else they would be op, which you are implying. This is also the reason protoss realy heavily on gimmicks since their base units are too weak while their tech unit are too strong. Leading to either all-in warpgate play or turtleing high tech plays.
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Good change let's see how this turns out.
I hope blizzard still has an eye on hellbat drops.

Belha

Italy2850 Posts

June 20 2013 00:47 GMT

#177

Wait, as a P I honestly care much more about a hellbat nerf than a prism buff.
What about hellbats??

sibs

635 Posts

June 20 2013 00:48 GMT

#178

the same terrans that complain about warp prism in this thread say hellbat drops are ok

lol.

disappointed the obviously since beta broken unit is going to remain untouched.

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

June 20 2013 00:53 GMT

#179

On June 20 2013 09:41 Billinator wrote:

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But zerg could have ~25 overlords if they're maxed out. That's their ENTIRE ARMY that they can drop in your base at once!!!