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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On June 20 2013 01:10 Targe wrote: I was Orc. I can see now that my problem was I never used Spirit Walkers... BM/SH 4grunts/raiders/spirit walker for spirit link (and obviously dispel if needed), take an expo at tier 2 when undead had no way to stop it. That was the standard last I played/paid attention to the scene. Speaking of the Blade Master....*shudders* | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 20 2013 01:12 AnomalySC2 wrote: BM/SH 4grunts/raiders/spirit walker for spirit link (and obviously dispel if needed), take an expo at tier 2 when undead had no way to stop it. That was the standard last I played/paid attention to the scene. Speaking of the Blade Master....*shudders* Yeah, most games I won were due to Blade Master harass into two grunts then raiders  My general tactic though as the game progessed was to get Tauren, 3/3, raiders, Shamans and kodos... I don't know whether these were actual builds though cause I didn't follow any proscene. | ||
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stillborn
Germany119 Posts
While you were a nostalgic nerd playing SC1 in 2010 in Europe, you were a hyped well earning professional in Korea. The guys that were good enough to make a living off Esports played WC3 because that was the only place were you could make a living from an RTS. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On June 20 2013 01:18 Targe wrote: Yeah, most games I won were due to Blade Master harass into two grunts then raiders My general tactic though as the game progessed was to get Tauren, 3/3, raiders, Shamans and kodos... I don't know whether these were actual builds though cause I didn't follow any proscene. I can remember same games grubby pulled a strategy out like that (I think a game on Turtle Rock vs Moon maybe), though you rarely saw shaman or tauren towards the end. Bloodlusted tauren and BM is lol dps. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 20 2013 01:26 AnomalySC2 wrote: I can remember same games grubby pulled a strategy out like that (I think a game on Turtle Rock vs Moon maybe), though you rarely saw shaman or tauren towards the end. Bloodlusted tauren and BM is lol dps. Yeah, Bloodlust was a lot of fun! Nice to see that I wasn't too far off the mark if it got pulled off at least once or twice, knowing about spirit walkers would have been unbelievably helpful though as my friend usually went undead TT | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
Korean progamers are good in SC2 because BW is a hard game, but Foreign progamers are good in SC2 because war3 had a big scene? + Show Spoiler + Undead 4 life! Wait... that doesn't sound right... | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On June 20 2013 01:30 Targe wrote: Yeah, Bloodlust was a lot of fun! Nice to see that I wasn't too far off the mark if it got pulled off at least once or twice, knowing about spirit walkers would have been unbelievably helpful though as my friend usually went undead TT Yeah you could use that vs any race really. Spirit link would spread the damage between your entire army (which is already high hp), and lvl 2 healing wave would heal it all back up + healing scrolls if you got your expo up and running. Nothing scarier than a tanky and practically infinite hp blade master ^_^ | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
Same can be said about Sziky becoming the foreign BW Bonjwa. Guy didn't even make it to the TSL2 tournament. He dominates the foreign BW scene simply because the other players left. | ||
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Velatrix
Germany37 Posts
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On June 20 2013 03:09 Velatrix wrote: Naniwa Sase were both warcraft 3 players Thank you for your input, however this was already mentioned in the OP (as well as numerous other posts) so your post doesn't really add much :-) From the OP (emphasis added) Some of the best Swedish players are mostly former WC3 players aswell. (Naniwa, Thorzain, SjoW, Sase) | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 20 2013 02:39 ppshchik wrote: All the BW talents bled to WC3. The best foreigners in BW became the best because they stayed in the scene while others chose to play War3. Foreign War3 pros like Stephano Naniwa Thorzain Demuslim would've outplayed Idra Ret in BW if they were told to invest their time on BW under their war3 training regiment. Same can be said about Sziky becoming the foreign BW Bonjwa. Guy didn't even make it to the TSL2 tournament. He dominates the foreign BW scene simply because the other players left. Well it's a bit much to say that, but obviously they would have been good at BW. | ||
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cythaze
830 Posts
On June 20 2013 02:39 ppshchik wrote: All the BW talents bled to WC3. The best foreigners in BW became the best because they stayed in the scene while others chose to play War3. Foreign War3 pros like Stephano Naniwa Thorzain Demuslim would've outplayed Idra Ret in BW if they were told to invest their time on BW under their war3 training regiment. Same can be said about Sziky becoming the foreign BW Bonjwa. Guy didn't even make it to the TSL2 tournament. He dominates the foreign BW scene simply because the other players left. In which world are Stephano and Naniwa WC3 pros? And in which world did the european wc3 players have a training regiment anywhere close to what Idra and Ret had in korea? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 20 2013 03:23 cythaze wrote: In which world are Stephano and Naniwa WC3 pros? And in which world did the european wc3 players have a training regiment anywhere close to what Idra and Ret had in korea? Which is why Ret and Idra are doing so much better than Naniwa and Stephano. Korean training. Ret has played in way more GSL matches than Stephano and Idra has gone much further in the GSL than Naniwa. + Show Spoiler + In jest of course + Show Spoiler + although, to be honest, I'm enjoying the warcraft chats more than the War3 vs BW chats so I hope we have more of those | ||
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Inimic
Canada153 Posts
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
I'm not sure if he tried going full SC2 afterwards or not but he did just kind of stop and vanished afterwards. | ||
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Diavolo222
Romania8 Posts
Even towards the end of Wc3 I was still following it very much. I was there for every stage that wc3 was in. I love threads like these. Man and so many names that slipped my mind cause I never really though about wc3 that much for some time.Like when I saw names like Deadman and Shortround , Soju , Insomnia, Susiria. I was like holy shit I forgot those. this thread made my made and obviously tthe power rank blog :D le : O not to mention wcreplays . com, that was like my home, + the audio commentaries. Nowadys we just have youtube commentaries. In that time usually there werent so many but we had the wcreplays audio ones where u had to sink up with the speaker like 3...2...1.. UNPAUSE...no try again. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 20 2013 03:34 Inimic wrote: Please add Stephano to the list of former wc3 players I mean Stephano was long regarded as the best foreigner and still is by many. Reading skills people. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On June 20 2013 03:50 Diavolo222 wrote: Wow..so many fucking memories. So many hours of Warcraft3 and everything related to warcraft.I mean I remember watching so many freaking replays and never for 1 second getting tired.And im really sad that people dont really mention MadfroG.Sure he wasnt at the freaking PEAK but the guy was a beast. I still remember his epic early matches with Moon and Tod.I was pretty bummed that he didntlike the game anymore and quit. Even towards the end of Wc3 I was still following it very much. I was there for every stage that wc3 was in. I love threads like these. Man and so many names that slipped my mind cause I never really though about wc3 that much for some time.Like when I saw names like Deadman and Shortround , Soju , Insomnia, Susiria. I was like holy shit I forgot those. this thread made my made and obviously tthe power rank blog :D le : O not to mention wcreplays . com, that was like my home, + the audio commentaries. Nowadys we just have youtube commentaries. In that time usually there werent so many but we had the wcreplays audio ones where u had to sink up with the speaker like 3...2...1.. UNPAUSE...no try again. hahaha good times. It warms the soul to know wcreplays is still going too. | ||
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OKMarius
Norway469 Posts
I kinda lost interest in the scene after Creolophus retired. I feel like after that, it was always the same 10-15 players vs each other. Orc was also way too strong with Blademaster. TeD and Th000 were fun to watch, but the magic wasn't there with the lack of patches, proper WC3L and a strong foreign scene. | ||
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Dingodile
4135 Posts
On June 20 2013 06:17 OKMarius wrote: [...], it was always the same 10-15 players vs each other. Exactly this is what i miss in sc2. Most likely all 3 months there are the other 10-15 players in the top20 worldwide best players. And see 1x monthly Parting vs Life or Innovation vs Soulkey is not enough for me. In wc3, for several years the same 10-15 players, they played like 5x monthly each other. | ||
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