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On June 10 2013 11:22 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 11:02 groms wrote:
I honestly think mma was never amazingly good. His builds were insane though(prob won's influence). Proxy tanks vs MVP in GSL finals was nuts. His decline seems to coincide with ryu won leaving slayers prior to them disbanding. Oh yeah, MMA is totally a scrub player who just got lucky. I bet if Ryu Won was your coach, you could have won 2 GSLs as well right? Look, having a great coach is great, but I'm tired of all these people saying that MMA would be nothing with Ryu Won. It's just like saying that Life would be a nobody if the queen patch had never happened right? After all, Life only found success after the queen patch, and before he was a nobody on Zenex, right? Wrong. Ryu Won is a great coach, but MMA is also one of the best players of WoL. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat Mvp in Game 9 of the GSTL finals, it wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat DRG in Game 9 of the next GSTL finals. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth during Game 7 of the Blizzard Cup. It was MMA. Give credit where credit it due
I think some guys pay way too much attention to the coaches.
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On June 10 2013 11:02 groms wrote:
I honestly think mma was never amazingly good. His builds were insane though(prob won's influence). Proxy tanks vs MVP in GSL finals was nuts. His decline seems to coincide with ryu won leaving slayers prior to them disbanding.
You're forgetting TvZ. MMA was once invincible in TvZ purely due to his multi-tasking and positioning. It's not just the builds.
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On June 10 2013 10:40 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 10:36 xluik wrote:
lol wtf. I wonder what is the criteria they use in defining a casual player. Probably if you play less than 8 hours a day you are considered a casual. he defines it right there. "No ambition." So in a nutshell treats SC2 as a job and not as a sport/competition. Which is the opposite of casual, but i still think it's pretty clear what he meant.
I didn't link casual with the ambition part. Well, he is doing very well considering he is closely matched with the best zerg atm.
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so it wasn't Flash...it was MMA instead o.0
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so its MMA !.. congrats to both 
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opterown
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On June 10 2013 11:27 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 11:22 Bagration wrote:On June 10 2013 11:02 groms wrote:
I honestly think mma was never amazingly good. His builds were insane though(prob won's influence). Proxy tanks vs MVP in GSL finals was nuts. His decline seems to coincide with ryu won leaving slayers prior to them disbanding. Oh yeah, MMA is totally a scrub player who just got lucky. I bet if Ryu Won was your coach, you could have won 2 GSLs as well right? Look, having a great coach is great, but I'm tired of all these people saying that MMA would be nothing with Ryu Won. It's just like saying that Life would be a nobody if the queen patch had never happened right? After all, Life only found success after the queen patch, and before he was a nobody on Zenex, right? Wrong. Ryu Won is a great coach, but MMA is also one of the best players of WoL. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat Mvp in Game 9 of the GSTL finals, it wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat DRG in Game 9 of the next GSTL finals. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth during Game 7 of the Blizzard Cup. It was MMA. Give credit where credit it due I think some guys pay way too much attention to the coaches.
screw you coach park #1 coach right
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Vatican City State582 Posts
i thought soulkey said he practiced w/ Flash?
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opterown
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On June 10 2013 11:58 dacimvrl wrote:
i thought soulkey said he practiced w/ Flash?
he did, iirc byun flash and mma practiced with him, but mma helped out the most
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On June 10 2013 11:41 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 11:27 StarStruck wrote:On June 10 2013 11:22 Bagration wrote:On June 10 2013 11:02 groms wrote:
I honestly think mma was never amazingly good. His builds were insane though(prob won's influence). Proxy tanks vs MVP in GSL finals was nuts. His decline seems to coincide with ryu won leaving slayers prior to them disbanding. Oh yeah, MMA is totally a scrub player who just got lucky. I bet if Ryu Won was your coach, you could have won 2 GSLs as well right? Look, having a great coach is great, but I'm tired of all these people saying that MMA would be nothing with Ryu Won. It's just like saying that Life would be a nobody if the queen patch had never happened right? After all, Life only found success after the queen patch, and before he was a nobody on Zenex, right? Wrong. Ryu Won is a great coach, but MMA is also one of the best players of WoL. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat Mvp in Game 9 of the GSTL finals, it wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat DRG in Game 9 of the next GSTL finals. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth during Game 7 of the Blizzard Cup. It was MMA. Give credit where credit it due I think some guys pay way too much attention to the coaches. screw you coach park #1 coach right
Except for Oh Glorious Leader of course!
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On June 10 2013 12:01 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 11:58 dacimvrl wrote:
i thought soulkey said he practiced w/ Flash? he did, iirc byun flash and mma practiced with him, but mma helped out the most
But that goes against the fans preconceived bias that Flash is the only one that could have done any help.
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On June 10 2013 10:48 Putty wrote:
I think the definition of "casual" for the coach is not related to the hours of practice, but the fact that Sos don't care that much about winning or losing.
For example Stephano is that kind of "casual" : he just don't really care about results, he play his game and then go home. The complete opposite is Naniwa, who really want to be recognized as one of the best and get very angry when he lose.
I think you're completely right given the context of the interview. Maybe some Korean speakers can confirm the connotation? Though it kind of clashes with how Soulkey said that sOs has nerve issues, you'd think he wouldn't have that problem if that was what his mentality is like. Then again, on that huge ass stage, everything probably changes.
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MMA got baneling busted way, too, fucking, much (or that 7-9 roach pressure that would ALWAYS,99.9% do critical dmg) in WOL
Most frustrating part of being an MMA fan, so funny that Soulkey trained with MMA, I can totally see it now after watching the finals
p.s. Somebody tell Artosis that Soulkey trained mainly with MMA and it'll shut him up about the MMA hate
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lol at the last picture
Funny pose.
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On June 10 2013 12:32 ShowTheLights wrote:
MMA got baneling busted way, too, fucking, much (or that 7-9 roach pressure that would ALWAYS,99.9% do critical dmg) in WOL
Most frustrating part of being an MMA fan, so funny that Soulkey trained with MMA, I can totally see it now after watching the finals
p.s. Somebody tell Artosis that Soulkey trained mainly with MMA and it'll shut him up about the MMA hate
Artosis will never like MMA, as long as MMA chooses bio over mech.
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Hahaha the photo of the STX Manager holding innovation round the waste is so good
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awesome interviews, love the pics
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On June 10 2013 10:17 Scarecrow wrote:
I assume 'casual' means he practices the bare minimum 10 hours a day.
heh yeah that's probably the truth
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Casual, in asian talk, is just doing the regular routine. Like practicing the bare minimum, whatever the team requires.
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On June 10 2013 12:46 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 12:32 ShowTheLights wrote:
MMA got baneling busted way, too, fucking, much (or that 7-9 roach pressure that would ALWAYS,99.9% do critical dmg) in WOL
Most frustrating part of being an MMA fan, so funny that Soulkey trained with MMA, I can totally see it now after watching the finals
p.s. Somebody tell Artosis that Soulkey trained mainly with MMA and it'll shut him up about the MMA hate Artosis will never like MMA, as long as MMA chooses bio over mech.
Artosis will never forgive mma for beating mvp
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