Haha, coach won totally looks like Innovation´s genetic father. Maybe it´s himself from the future, coming back to create harder challenges, so he will be able to save humanity later.

Grumbels

Netherlands7031 Posts

June 10 2013 21:18 GMT

#45

On June 10 2013 11:22 Bagration wrote:

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Oh yeah, MMA is totally a scrub player who just got lucky. I bet if Ryu Won was your coach, you could have won 2 GSLs as well right?

Look, having a great coach is great, but I'm tired of all these people saying that MMA would be nothing with Ryu Won. It's just like saying that Life would be a nobody if the queen patch had never happened right? After all, Life only found success after the queen patch, and before he was a nobody on Zenex, right? Wrong.

Ryu Won is a great coach, but MMA is also one of the best players of WoL. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat Mvp in Game 9 of the GSTL finals, it wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat DRG in Game 9 of the next GSTL finals. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth during Game 7 of the Blizzard Cup. It was MMA. Give credit where credit it due

Fantasy didn't become truly dominant until oov went to the military.

Gladiator6

Sweden7024 Posts

June 10 2013 21:23 GMT

#46

That explains why he seemed pretty happy about getting 2nd

a3den

704 Posts

June 10 2013 21:34 GMT

#47

On June 10 2013 13:26 zyzq wrote:

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Artosis will never forgive mma for beating mvp

There's so many great players he arbitrarily dislikes that I don't think anyone should care that much about his opinions.

DOUDOU

Wales2940 Posts

June 10 2013 21:39 GMT

#48

MMA told Soulkey the solution. There are many details of the solution that even I didn't notice. But MMA covered all of it. [...] MMA even watched Innovation's VOD, and tried to play as similar as Innovation."

2013 YEAR OF MMA

I BELIEVE!

larse

1611 Posts

June 10 2013 21:39 GMT

#49

On June 11 2013 06:23 Gladiator6 wrote:
That explains why he seemed pretty happy about getting 2nd

Yeah, he is smiling like really happy after game 4 while shaking hands with Innovation.

Maybe this is what he means "casual"----he is just a casual casual man smiling and happy and not be serious to all things

Shiori

3815 Posts

June 10 2013 21:41 GMT

#50

On June 10 2013 12:46 Popkiller wrote:

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Artosis will never like MMA, as long as MMA chooses bio over mech.

It doesn't help that MMA was basically winning because he was simply better at multitasking than anyone else (especially TvZ). Not that I'm trying to take anything away from him, but his strength was always his multitasking, not his builds or strategy or whatever. It wasn't even his micro like MKP, although he was really good at micro; it was that he played a style that Zerg players simply didn't know how to beat. But then everyone started doing drops, even Protoss players like Hero, and Zergs gradually got better at dealing with them through better Overlord spread, better Creep spread, and liberal use of static defense. Now that people have accustomed to that and there isn't such a gap in mechanics, he's fallen by the wayside. His style just isn't very good anymore, and his builds aren't particularly innovative. It has nothing to do with hate, honestly.

PerSe

United Kingdom550 Posts

June 10 2013 21:55 GMT

#51

Well this interview confirmed that Soulkey knew exactly what he was doing when he left the Mutas in his WCS Korea win against Bogus. Medivac patterns memorised, zerglings to scout dropship etc. etc.

Gladiator6

Sweden7024 Posts

June 10 2013 21:56 GMT

#52

On June 11 2013 06:39 larse wrote:

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That was kind of what I was thinking, but you need to find a balance I guess.

Better to see him like that than to see him go MKP style

Noocta

France12578 Posts

June 10 2013 21:58 GMT

#53

Stephano is a casual player.
The korean definition of casual is more harsh than TLO practice regimen.

theMagus

578 Posts

June 11 2013 01:27 GMT

#54

lolol. sos is a casual player with no ambition. well at least the coach said he changed after ro8, even adding 2 hours to his regular practice time. hopefully that means he's more serious now.

about mma, i agree. even though he has a fallen off quite a bit, he still has a lot more experience than soulkey playing the game. he will have good insights at least.

sM.Zik

Canada2547 Posts

June 11 2013 01:43 GMT

#55

Casual gamers for foreigners : Someone who play games on their phone while waiting in line
Casual gamers for koreans : Someone who practice 10 hours a day and make it to the final of the WCS season.

Glenn313

United States475 Posts

June 11 2013 01:58 GMT

#56

I play casual too. I'm still in Diamond. LOL

slowbacontron

United States7722 Posts

June 15 2013 11:13 GMT

#57

After reading that MMA initially thought he couldn't be a help to Soulkey, but eventually worked out all the kinks for him and even tried to imitate Innovation's playstyle (something that should be considered impossible), I have to say that is deserving of so much respect. If that's the kind of person who won MLG Columbus, GSL October and 2011 Blizzard Cup, I hope he can find it in him to gain his former strength.