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Blizzard Discontinues GrandMaster League in WoL - Page 6

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FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
June 08 2013 00:55 GMT
#101
I wonder if I could have gotten GM in WoL before they did this....
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
June 08 2013 00:57 GMT
#102
I didnt even know you could still play wol ....
GHSTxJet
Profile Joined January 2012
United States154 Posts
June 08 2013 01:00 GMT
#103
On June 08 2013 09:57 jax1492 wrote:
I didnt even know you could still play wol ....
ahahahahaha
SuppySon
Velouria
Profile Joined May 2013
United States78 Posts
June 08 2013 01:01 GMT
#104
its things like this that make me mad there is no grandmaster ffa and 2s etc, its just a game let some people have fun.
hard to explain
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
June 08 2013 01:04 GMT
#105
Poor wintraders
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 01:04:38
June 08 2013 01:04 GMT
#106
i feel the people who are actually mad/upset with this change are the ones who went back to WoL just go get the GM icon lool.
savior did nothing wrong
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 08 2013 01:05 GMT
#107
On June 08 2013 10:01 Velouria wrote:
its things like this that make me mad there is no grandmaster ffa and 2s etc, its just a game let some people have fun.

In this context, your idea of "fun" is to have your achievements possess some prestige, am I right? By allowing people in WoL to get grandmasters, it lowers the prestige of the HotS GM league, since there is no clear distinction between the two. So you are depriving the majority, not to mention the more important group, from having their fun.

Seems like people will complain no matter what blizzard does.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 08 2013 01:11 GMT
#108
lol was thinking of getting gm for the profile thing but im prefectly fine with this
the throws never bothered me anyway
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 01:14:54
June 08 2013 01:13 GMT
#109
Disapprove. I don't see them going back to BroodWar and removing features. WOL is a different game from HoTs and deserves all the features made available to it.

On June 08 2013 10:05 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 10:01 Velouria wrote:
its things like this that make me mad there is no grandmaster ffa and 2s etc, its just a game let some people have fun.

In this context, your idea of "fun" is to have your achievements possess some prestige, am I right? By allowing people in WoL to get grandmasters, it lowers the prestige of the HotS GM league, since there is no clear distinction between the two. So you are depriving the majority, not to mention the more important group, from having their fun.

Seems like people will complain no matter what blizzard does.

Why not have a HoTs GM achievement completely seperate from the WoL GM achievement? There are better options then just removing a feature because the developers feel it is meaningless.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 01:54:38
June 08 2013 01:53 GMT
#110
On June 08 2013 10:13 BisuDagger wrote:
Disapprove. I don't see them going back to BroodWar and removing features. WOL is a different game from HoTs and deserves all the features made available to it.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 10:05 xAdra wrote:
On June 08 2013 10:01 Velouria wrote:
its things like this that make me mad there is no grandmaster ffa and 2s etc, its just a game let some people have fun.

In this context, your idea of "fun" is to have your achievements possess some prestige, am I right? By allowing people in WoL to get grandmasters, it lowers the prestige of the HotS GM league, since there is no clear distinction between the two. So you are depriving the majority, not to mention the more important group, from having their fun.

Seems like people will complain no matter what blizzard does.

Why not have a HoTs GM achievement completely seperate from the WoL GM achievement? There are better options then just removing a feature because the developers feel it is meaningless.


You can't compare WoL and BW. What feature would they remove? SC2 and BW are truly different games, ~12 years apart to the beta. And this year number is superfluous, because the point is that HOTS is an EXPANSION of the same game... not a completely different sequel... And the circumstances are completely different..


Making a different achievement? Having WoL grandmaster still around is an affront to actual WoL past grandmasters (who now all play HOTS)
Doesn't matter if it's a separate achievement... it's false... There is not enough competition to merit a class of player called "grandmaster". There is not 200 top players who are truly top level players. It would debase the title. It's not even my or your opinion, just a fact that there is not enough competition on WoL to be able to compare the GRANDMASTER class of HOTS to the latest 200 on WoL which comprised of low masters and hackers. How are those the same? Even if they were different achievements, how is that fair to the 200 GMs in the final pre-hots season and seasons before?
EDIT: clarity
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 08 2013 01:55 GMT
#111
My plan to come back to WoL in five years and reach grandmaster has been shattered, NNNOOOO
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19297 Posts
June 08 2013 02:00 GMT
#112
On June 08 2013 10:53 BreakfastBurrito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 10:13 BisuDagger wrote:
Disapprove. I don't see them going back to BroodWar and removing features. WOL is a different game from HoTs and deserves all the features made available to it.

On June 08 2013 10:05 xAdra wrote:
On June 08 2013 10:01 Velouria wrote:
its things like this that make me mad there is no grandmaster ffa and 2s etc, its just a game let some people have fun.

In this context, your idea of "fun" is to have your achievements possess some prestige, am I right? By allowing people in WoL to get grandmasters, it lowers the prestige of the HotS GM league, since there is no clear distinction between the two. So you are depriving the majority, not to mention the more important group, from having their fun.

Seems like people will complain no matter what blizzard does.

Why not have a HoTs GM achievement completely seperate from the WoL GM achievement? There are better options then just removing a feature because the developers feel it is meaningless.


You can't compare WoL and BW. What feature would they remove? SC2 and BW are truly different games, ~12 years apart to the beta. And this year number is superfluous, because the point is that HOTS is an EXPANSION of the same game... not a completely different sequel... And the circumstances are completely different..


Making a different achievement? Having WoL grandmaster still around is an affront to actual WoL past grandmasters (who now all play HOTS)
Doesn't matter if it's a separate achievement... it's false... There is not enough competition to merit a class of player called "grandmaster". There is not 200 top players who are truly top level players. It would debase the title. It's not even my or your opinion, just a fact that there is not enough competition on WoL to be able to compare the GRANDMASTER class of HOTS to the latest 200 on WoL which comprised of low masters and hackers. How are those the same? Even if they were different achievements, how is that fair to the 200 GMs in the final pre-hots season and seasons before?
EDIT: clarity

How completely wrong you are. There are people who continue to buy and play WoL. Earning Grand Master among them is still a badge of honor regardless of how much you want to trash that scene. And I don't understand why you are trying to play the "fair" card. Grow some thick skin if you are honestly offended. Everyone should have the opportunity to get GM. It a freaking ranking system not an exclusive yatch club. If you are in the top of WoL then be labeled as so. I'm sorry you find it easier and think that it is littered with hackers. Regardless of your opinion they are taking something from a game and in the end that is how simple my argument is. I don't agree with removing features from a game.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
June 08 2013 02:22 GMT
#113
Totally approve of this change.
getting gm in wol gives people with false sense of superiority, where terrible players actually think they are good
in hots, the case is less severe
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 08 2013 02:22 GMT
#114
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=404099

weird its like i said this months ago
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
June 08 2013 02:25 GMT
#115
I think they should have done this much earlier.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3821 Posts
June 08 2013 02:26 GMT
#116
Approve. GM is supposed to be the best 200 players in your region. Those players are not people stuck in the past playing in WoL.
cpc
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia126 Posts
June 08 2013 02:33 GMT
#117
Seems to make sense, I mean its pretty bad on SEA where there are only 2 people in GM for wol because of the few remaining wol players that havent switched from what is already a small server.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 08 2013 02:37 GMT
#118
On June 08 2013 09:32 PanN wrote:
Good, now things like this can't happen.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS3lUg__9_4



In one of the videos his friend says "make sure you let destiny know, you even got top 8!".

If you can watch those videos without cringing you're beyond human.


sphere

lol. It all makes sense.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Hangman89
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore43 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 02:39:33
June 08 2013 02:39 GMT
#119
What do people think about removing the league system in WOL altogether? This allows people of all skill levels to be randomly matched against each other.

I am assuming that the number of people still playing WOL is pretty small, so it could take ages for a Masters level player to be matched. If you allow all players to be matched against each other it could improve the overall skill of all the players and decrease waiting times.

The alternative is to let players be matched if their MMR is close enough, eg: masters and plat players can be matched but masters and silver cant be matched.
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
June 08 2013 02:47 GMT
#120
To be honest, I didn't even realize you could still ladder in WoL, let alone be GM!
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
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