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Blizzard Discontinues GrandMaster League in WoL - Page 4

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Generalul
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania114 Posts
June 07 2013 21:50 GMT
#61
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I liked the shiny GM border a lot... made me look like a saint ) Still, i got friends that couldn't afford HOTS and would have wanted to get GM after all this time... Would have been nice just to change the outline for WOL and HOTS GM's, would have taken 5 minutes to implement it, but hey, this is also a marketing move. Not in the sence that WOL players will all rush out and get HOTS in order to get the GM achievment, as they are aware of how hard it will be to get in, but while the GM league was there, HOTS owners would have come over to still play the game in order to get it and so the ladder was more populated. As it will be from now on most likely only the WOL owners will remain, and finding a game would take ages there, so they will be forced to buy HOTS if they want to have a pleasant gaming experience...
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 07 2013 21:52 GMT
#62
There is no reason to keep it up, HotS is where the best are at anyways. Definitely a good idea considering the best of the best play HotS and having a gm for the people who didn't switch for whatever reason makes little sense.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 07 2013 21:52 GMT
#63
On June 08 2013 06:46 MisterTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 05:07 Biolunar wrote:
In my opinion a really dickish move. Now they are treating WoL as a 2nd class game which does not deserve a GM league. What a bunch of ass hats …

Because it is?

Hots is the competitive version of sc2 now, Wings is just something people play that havent bought hots yet


Spawning seems to make me think that's not a good enough excuse anymore... although I don't know if Spawning will let you 1v1 in a league. Probably not, in which case I'm wrong, but I don't care, because taking GM away from WoL means I have no self esteem anymore.

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Actually, nothing above has anything to do with it, my self esteem was shot down way back in Warcraft II.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 07 2013 21:53 GMT
#64
Wouldn't mind if they revoked previous WoL GMs so their profile no longer shows their highest achievement was GM if they got it after HotS came out. Diamond/low master level players are pretty misrepresented with it in their profile.
FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
June 07 2013 22:00 GMT
#65
This is really necessary. Good move!
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NovaSC2
Profile Joined March 2013
17 Posts
June 07 2013 22:09 GMT
#66
On June 08 2013 06:53 Chairman Ray wrote:
Wouldn't mind if they revoked previous WoL GMs so their profile no longer shows their highest achievement was GM if they got it after HotS came out. Diamond/low master level players are pretty misrepresented with it in their profile.

I'm totally support this like I also stated earlier in the thread :D
KillerofGods
Profile Joined September 2012
United States34 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 22:25:10
June 07 2013 22:23 GMT
#67
On June 08 2013 05:03 Thalandros wrote:
It was fun some people racing to get it because it was just a joke. Good to have it gone. Keep the GM tag to the GM's, blizzard!

I don't like the change simply for the fact that if some people found it fun to get there then let them get there and keep their fantasies if thats what they want just isolate HotS information and WoL information as no one should care if you were GM in WoL if you're bronze in HotS (exaggeration, but you get the point.) They are both entirely different games and if people had fun doing it then good for them its not like it affects you or I in anyway.
"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
June 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#68
About time
Rupyness
Profile Joined January 2011
52 Posts
June 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#69
This is really trivial its just a border I say leave it some people just like to collect all the portraits icons etc. Its not like it harms the game. But whatever
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 22:30:36
June 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#70
Name one good reason why anyone actually cares enough to be happy they took this out of WoL. I dont care either way whether it was still active there, but what damage does it do to you or your ego that it was active until now? Who cares if someone left over in WoL got GM. They are GM in a game with 1% of the previous player base or some other low guestimate. Why does this bother anyone? Are you unhappy you didnt get GM? Jealous? It doesnt tarnish GM at all because no one is going to confuse HotS GM with WoL. The best that can be said for those people in WoL GM is they'd have a happy few moments after they made it and that would be it. They arent dumb enough to think they are GM quality in HotS too so why does it bother so many people? Do people search for useless shit to complain about?

It caused no harm to anyone by having it there. Taking it away isnt the end of the world either but it seems like a waste of their time imo. Could have just left it to the amusement of those who were left.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 07 2013 22:32 GMT
#71
Good news, no one cares about the top 200 of no one.
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KillerofGods
Profile Joined September 2012
United States34 Posts
June 07 2013 22:33 GMT
#72
On June 08 2013 07:29 mrtomjones wrote:
Name one good reason why anyone actually cares enough to be happy they took this out of WoL. I dont care either way whether it was still active there, but what damage does it do to you or your ego that it was active until now? Who cares if someone left over in WoL got GM. They are GM in a game with 1% of the previous player base or some other low guestimate. Why does this bother anyone? Are you unhappy you didnt get GM? Jealous? It doesnt tarnish GM at all because no one is going to confuse HotS GM with WoL. The best that can be said for those people in WoL GM is they'd have a happy few moments after they made it and that would be it. They arent dumb enough to think they are GM quality in HotS too so why does it bother so many people? Do people search for useless shit to complain about?

It caused no harm to anyone by having it there. Taking it away isnt the end of the world either but it seems like a waste of their time imo. Could have just left it to the amusement of those who were left.

My thoughts exactly it's just a game and if WoL still gave people some enjoyment then let them have it. Not like it really matters either way I just don't understand why its such a big deal.
"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 22:40:44
June 07 2013 22:38 GMT
#73
--- Nuked ---
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 07 2013 22:42 GMT
#74
very good decision, blizzard so awesome in the last months have to complement them.
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hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
June 07 2013 22:42 GMT
#75
Good, obviously.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
June 07 2013 22:44 GMT
#76
On June 08 2013 07:38 monkybone wrote:
Why would you dilute the deeply embedded term Grandmaster league with the notion of noobs dicking around in a deserted game?


Damn, this post made me realize why I felt kind of upset about this.

Why would you dilute the deeply embedded term marriage with the notion of homosexuals? (dicking around? :D)
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
June 07 2013 23:10 GMT
#77
I can't believe people are complaining about this. People will complain about anything apparently
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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
June 07 2013 23:12 GMT
#78
Cool....
Now if they'd make GM the true 200 best players per region that'd ´be great
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KillerofGods
Profile Joined September 2012
United States34 Posts
June 07 2013 23:18 GMT
#79
On June 08 2013 07:38 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 07:33 KillerofGods wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:29 mrtomjones wrote:
Name one good reason why anyone actually cares enough to be happy they took this out of WoL. I dont care either way whether it was still active there, but what damage does it do to you or your ego that it was active until now? Who cares if someone left over in WoL got GM. They are GM in a game with 1% of the previous player base or some other low guestimate. Why does this bother anyone? Are you unhappy you didnt get GM? Jealous? It doesnt tarnish GM at all because no one is going to confuse HotS GM with WoL. The best that can be said for those people in WoL GM is they'd have a happy few moments after they made it and that would be it. They arent dumb enough to think they are GM quality in HotS too so why does it bother so many people? Do people search for useless shit to complain about?

It caused no harm to anyone by having it there. Taking it away isnt the end of the world either but it seems like a waste of their time imo. Could have just left it to the amusement of those who were left.

My thoughts exactly it's just a game and if WoL still gave people some enjoyment then let them have it. Not like it really matters either way I just don't understand why its such a big deal.


Why would you dilute the deeply embedded term Grandmaster league with the notion of noobs dicking around in a deserted game?

Again why does it matter? All they had to do was separate WoL and HotS statistics since no one cares about your WoL rank even before HotS as if you were diamond in WoL and now your silver in HotS no one cares about your diamond its just a picture. Also if your not good enough to be in GM then your not a real GM even if you were one in the past. (Within reason of course.)
"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
aNGryaRchon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States438 Posts
June 07 2013 23:19 GMT
#80
Just logical
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