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Blizzard Discontinues GrandMaster League in WoL - Page 5

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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2548 Posts
June 07 2013 23:21 GMT
#81
Obvious decision, no clue why people would be against it.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
June 07 2013 23:26 GMT
#82
On June 08 2013 07:29 mrtomjones wrote:
Name one good reason why anyone actually cares enough to be happy they took this out of WoL. I dont care either way whether it was still active there, but what damage does it do to you or your ego that it was active until now? Who cares if someone left over in WoL got GM. They are GM in a game with 1% of the previous player base or some other low guestimate. Why does this bother anyone? Are you unhappy you didnt get GM? Jealous? It doesnt tarnish GM at all because no one is going to confuse HotS GM with WoL. The best that can be said for those people in WoL GM is they'd have a happy few moments after they made it and that would be it. They arent dumb enough to think they are GM quality in HotS too so why does it bother so many people? Do people search for useless shit to complain about?

It caused no harm to anyone by having it there. Taking it away isnt the end of the world either but it seems like a waste of their time imo. Could have just left it to the amusement of those who were left.

I actually agree with this...

I haven't played SC2 in a very long time, more than 6 months... I don't have Hots.
I wish I remembered earlier to try to go for GM in WoL. it'd be fun.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 07 2013 23:29 GMT
#83
meh.. no biggie
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
June 07 2013 23:30 GMT
#84
--- Nuked ---
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 07 2013 23:33 GMT
#85
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only benefit I can see from this is that there "might" be less "Oh yeah? I was GM in WoL but now I'm plat in HotS because Blizzard totally messed up the game now, here's a screencap of me in GM. ggnore scrub"

Mostly kidding, and dont really care, but I wouldn't put this past some people... -_-
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 07 2013 23:36 GMT
#86
On June 08 2013 08:33 Jojo131 wrote:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only benefit I can see from this is that there "might" be less "Oh yeah? I was GM in WoL but now I'm plat in HotS because Blizzard totally messed up the game now, here's a screencap of me in GM. ggnore scrub"

Mostly kidding, and dont really care, but I wouldn't put this past some people... -_-

That's actually exactly what most WoL GM farmers will be like.
KillerofGods
Profile Joined September 2012
United States34 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:03:54
June 07 2013 23:42 GMT
#87
On June 08 2013 08:30 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:18 KillerofGods wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:38 monkybone wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:33 KillerofGods wrote:
On June 08 2013 07:29 mrtomjones wrote:
Name one good reason why anyone actually cares enough to be happy they took this out of WoL. I dont care either way whether it was still active there, but what damage does it do to you or your ego that it was active until now? Who cares if someone left over in WoL got GM. They are GM in a game with 1% of the previous player base or some other low guestimate. Why does this bother anyone? Are you unhappy you didnt get GM? Jealous? It doesnt tarnish GM at all because no one is going to confuse HotS GM with WoL. The best that can be said for those people in WoL GM is they'd have a happy few moments after they made it and that would be it. They arent dumb enough to think they are GM quality in HotS too so why does it bother so many people? Do people search for useless shit to complain about?

It caused no harm to anyone by having it there. Taking it away isnt the end of the world either but it seems like a waste of their time imo. Could have just left it to the amusement of those who were left.

My thoughts exactly it's just a game and if WoL still gave people some enjoyment then let them have it. Not like it really matters either way I just don't understand why its such a big deal.


Why would you dilute the deeply embedded term Grandmaster league with the notion of noobs dicking around in a deserted game?

Again why does it matter? All they had to do was separate WoL and HotS statistics since no one cares about your WoL rank even before HotS as if you were diamond in WoL and now your silver in HotS no one cares about your diamond its just a picture. Also if your not good enough to be in GM then your not a real GM even if you were one in the past. (Within reason of course.)


I don't think you understand my point. It matters because it changes the meaning of the term.

Not really it only changes WoL GM's term and even then you could go back and see when they got it by checking their ingame profile. HotS GM is completely unaffected (which is all that matters in the end or even really current GM is all that matters.)

On June 08 2013 08:36 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:33 Jojo131 wrote:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only benefit I can see from this is that there "might" be less "Oh yeah? I was GM in WoL but now I'm plat in HotS because Blizzard totally messed up the game now, here's a screencap of me in GM. ggnore scrub"

Mostly kidding, and dont really care, but I wouldn't put this past some people... -_-

That's actually exactly what most WoL GM farmers will be like.

Then you look at their ladder history and see when they got it and make fun of them. Just in case anyone can't tell I'm joking in the last line as someone PMed me thinking I was serious, and I just want to express that I meant offence in anyway whatsoever.
"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 07 2013 23:44 GMT
#88
Faster to just deny them the shiny badge :D
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 07 2013 23:51 GMT
#89
fuck i was going to go back and try for it eventually for fun when there was 200 or less players
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KillerofGods
Profile Joined September 2012
United States34 Posts
June 07 2013 23:55 GMT
#90
On June 08 2013 08:44 ZenithM wrote:
Faster to just deny them the shiny badge :D

True I just don't like it when people cry their eyes out and get rewarded for it. But dividing both profiles into separate ones would achieve the same thing except it would still give the people that want to do it for fun and feed their fantasies of getting real GM. If it gives people fun then they should keep it after all its a game and people are meant to enjoy it, and it wouldn't affect anyone.
"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
June 07 2013 23:59 GMT
#91
I conquer!
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xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 08 2013 00:28 GMT
#92
Because the term Grandmaster is supposed to represent something of prestige- a bunch of farmers and likely hackers shouldn't have access to.

You Americans are all for the "it's a free country, let people do what they enjoy" kind of thing, but if it ruins Blizzard's impressions/vision of their GM league, you are depriving others of what they enjoy, aka the hots people who would like the Grandmaster title to mean something.

WoL can rot in hell, compared to HotS that game is trash.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 08 2013 00:32 GMT
#93
Good, now things like this can't happen.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS3lUg__9_4



In one of the videos his friend says "make sure you let destiny know, you even got top 8!".

If you can watch those videos without cringing you're beyond human.
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onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
June 08 2013 00:33 GMT
#94
I completely agree with this decision.
Livin' this life like it was written.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 08 2013 00:34 GMT
#95
They could have very well closed the WoL servers actually. They could have been more dickish than just removing something that has become meaningless.
It's meaningless not because it's not the most played and competitive game atm (many other games are not as played as HotS, and they still have a ladder and k-best players :D), it's meaningless because the game is completely imbalanced and will stay that way. Being one of the best roach infestor ZvZer out there isn't something to be proud of, Blizzard is actually just doing you a favor.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 08 2013 00:34 GMT
#96
Why not just have the border not carry over to HOTS? Not that I really care, just was my first thought.
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
June 08 2013 00:39 GMT
#97
On June 08 2013 09:32 PanN wrote:
Good, now things like this can't happen.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS3lUg__9_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQGvW1C9IU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPign8KurLM


In one of the videos his friend says "make sure you let destiny know, you even got top 8!".

If you can watch those videos without cringing you're beyond human.


oh my god that was fucking hilarious
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QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
June 08 2013 00:47 GMT
#98
This there is enough room for anyone who plays WoL in GM, they should have removed bronze - masters
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ajxPurpleRain
Profile Joined July 2012
United States87 Posts
June 08 2013 00:50 GMT
#99
Dangit. Now I'll never be gm.
Only want to see you /dancing in the PurpleRain.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
June 08 2013 00:53 GMT
#100
I don't think people actually care about this.
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