• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:58
CEST 14:58
KST 21:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview24Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates6GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Buy driving license without exam for over 41 count Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Cheeseadelphia 2025 - Open Bracket LAN! $25,000+ WardiTV 2025 Series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates I made an ASL quiz
Tourneys
[BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 1 [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET [ASL19] Grand Finals
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Monster Hunter Wilds
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 19490 users

Youngest Grand Master player? - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 24 2013 18:23 GMT
#101
On May 24 2013 13:41 Wojciech Zywny wrote:
pretty sure Avilo is like 11 and he's in gm

lol nice
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
May 24 2013 18:28 GMT
#102
On May 25 2013 02:50 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 13:35 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On May 24 2013 13:29 askmc70 wrote:
your age doesnt matter in starcraft


It does at that age. The brain of a 13 year old is less developed than that of an adult.

Good thing you don't need a brain to get GM on NA


LOL, Ouch. Idra-esqe comment. I usually mention that to my girlfriend when encouraging her to ladder. Closest I got was a few Bronze League Hero's episodes.
I used to like trumpets, now I prefer pause. "Don't move a muscle JP!"
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
May 24 2013 18:29 GMT
#103
On May 24 2013 14:50 UberNuB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 14:48 DrAbuse wrote:
On May 24 2013 14:19 Eatme wrote:
On a sidenote. (T)WhO is the oldest GM player?


Should be (P)White-Ra


Grandpatoss!

Don't steal Much's name.
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
May 24 2013 18:40 GMT
#104
Well, there's SCSXenocider who was GM at 13
Trans Rights
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
May 24 2013 19:06 GMT
#105
On May 25 2013 02:50 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 13:35 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On May 24 2013 13:29 askmc70 wrote:
your age doesnt matter in starcraft


It does at that age. The brain of a 13 year old is less developed than that of an adult.

Good thing you don't need a brain to get GM on NA

LOL gg. Can't get better than that
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 19:31:09
May 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#106
On May 24 2013 13:33 andeh wrote:
(Z)Life?

Not sure if he's ever reached GM but (Z)Najzmajs?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
May 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#107
Nice stuff, but you people tend to forget starcraft is a game with two players, so doesn't that mean if GM league has 100 thirteen to fifteen year olds then if you want to be promoted to GM you will have around a 50 percent chance to find a 13-15 yr old gm? Even if the numbers are much smaller than that, if there are seven 13-15 year old in Grandmaster league, then guess how much would be in masters?
You people are arguing based on the idea that calculating the skill of a 13 year old is thinking that he is in a league full of people older than him.
When cats speak, mice listen.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2142 Posts
May 30 2013 09:46 GMT
#108
Always fun to see young people want to play SC2.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 30 2013 10:00 GMT
#109
On May 25 2013 02:50 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 13:35 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On May 24 2013 13:29 askmc70 wrote:
your age doesnt matter in starcraft


It does at that age. The brain of a 13 year old is less developed than that of an adult.

Good thing you don't need a brain to get GM on NA

lol Scarlett telling 'em.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 10:22:55
May 30 2013 10:03 GMT
#110
Btw, you can train ANYONE to find tactical and strategic patterns to any game, for example, there was this puzzle game called flipgame which was near impossible to beat, but then i started to see that the values of each square is not variable, every box has this boolean value which is hidden, and when all of them are 0, the game is solved , then i started to see that to determine the value of a square, there are a total of five variables you need to take in. If all squares around it have the boolean value(not the color) of false, then it is false, etc.

It wouldn't take a monkey to eventually figure out the 'correct' mechanics.
Mechanics today are strategies of the past.
Keep producing workers? Maynard.
also im turning 13 this weekend :D (although my birthday on TL is fake.)
When cats speak, mice listen.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 10:11:10
May 30 2013 10:09 GMT
#111
On May 24 2013 14:13 Bunn wrote:
I think there used to be a pretty young and good swedish player?


NajzMajs

Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
May 30 2013 10:23 GMT
#112
On May 25 2013 03:28 BioNova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:50 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On May 24 2013 13:35 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On May 24 2013 13:29 askmc70 wrote:
your age doesnt matter in starcraft


It does at that age. The brain of a 13 year old is less developed than that of an adult.

Good thing you don't need a brain to get GM on NA


LOL, Ouch. Idra-esqe comment. I usually mention that to my girlfriend when encouraging her to ladder. Closest I got was a few Bronze League Hero's episodes.


That's nowhere near an IdrA-esqe comment. lol.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 10:31:34
May 30 2013 10:29 GMT
#113
Wouldnt surprise me if it turns out to be Life. Before he was famous he was ranked number 1 GM on korea several times. That was back when he was probably 14.
@Munck
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
May 30 2013 10:30 GMT
#114
Imho it's not that impressive when you are very young. It's more impressive when you are old. I'd like to know who is the oldest GM player. If you are young you learn a lot faster and you have a lot more free time. If you tell your child to play like 8 hours a day since the age of 8 he'll be GM by the age of 12...
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
May 30 2013 10:32 GMT
#115
On May 24 2013 13:32 synd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 13:29 CableStarcraft wrote:
I think it's a legitimate question & discussion. It says a lot about a person if they're the youngest to achieve certain thing. Like the youngest person to climb Everest - that's a pretty freakin big deal.

Likewise, with the skills, strategy, and intelligence, focus, training, coordination and mechanics required with StarCraft as a competitive game especially, I think that young peoples' accomplishments are even more impressive when they're that young. What were you doing at 13-15? Picking your nose and playing Putt-Putt?

On May 24 2013 13:29 Ratch! wrote:
On May 24 2013 13:26 synd wrote:
Who cares? What's the point of all these threads like "who's the youngest X Y Z"


Knowing doesnt hurt.


Thanks.

Really solid defence. You justify the thread we get like every week or so by telling me I picked my nose at that age or whatever offensive shit you'll say.

Stop for a second and ask yourself. "What is a forum?" The answer is a place where people gather to discuss various topics/issues. It's an ancient word and an ancient tradition. If you don't like the conversation a few people are having, to to a different part of the forum and partake there.

Why do you have a right to tell other people to shut up mid conversation just because you think that what they are talking about has gotten old?

It would be interesting if people had information on a 10 year old GM or something of the sort. Get your needless negativity out of here plz.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 30 2013 10:36 GMT
#116
Considering GM in Korea simply is alot harder then GM in EU and NA, it's not really fair if you were to compare them and find the youngest player in GM of any region. (and who actualy has the most young talent around at the highest level)

So pure statistic based on difficulty young players might have the highest % to succeed into NA Grand Master.

As a prodigy well we only have one right now and that's (Z)Life

DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
May 30 2013 10:43 GMT
#117
to everyone saying life: LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
When cats speak, mice listen.
mafaba
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany73 Posts
May 30 2013 10:46 GMT
#118
Show me a 30 years old man with a family and a job whos gm, then iam impressed.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 30 2013 10:47 GMT
#119
On May 30 2013 19:46 mafaba wrote:
Show me a 30 years old man with a family and a job whos gm, then iam impressed.


^ This. Being good at a game as a kid isnt impressive. You should be better than adults because you have more time to play + you have an easier time to learn things.
DrAbuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany209 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 11:10:11
May 30 2013 11:10 GMT
#120
On May 30 2013 19:46 mafaba wrote:
Show me a 30 years old man with a family and a job whos gm, then iam impressed.


What about white-ra, son
eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/186292/1/DrAbuse/
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
WardiTV June Group B
Creator vs Jumy
ByuN vs Cure
Cure vs Jumy
ByuN vs Creator
Creator vs Cure
ByuN vs Jumy
WardiTV458
IntoTheiNu 12
LiquipediaDiscussion
Bellum Gens Elite
10:00
Stara Zagora 2025 Day 3
Serral vs ZounLIVE!
SKillous vs Krystianer
Harstem vs Lambo
Reynor vs Clem
ShoWTimE vs Ryung
Bellum Gens Elite3223
ComeBackTV 1078
TaKeTV 510
IndyStarCraft 303
Rex201
3DClanTV 188
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Bellum Gens Elite3223
Lowko337
IndyStarCraft 303
Hui .259
Rex 201
CosmosSc2 108
EnDerr 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 60238
Hyuk 1709
Shuttle 1493
Light 1267
Jaedong 805
EffOrt 773
hero 668
ToSsGirL 425
BeSt 349
Mini 319
[ Show more ]
Stork 276
ZerO 199
TY 51
[sc1f]eonzerg 51
Sea.KH 43
soO 41
sorry 40
sas.Sziky 39
Mind 31
JYJ30
sSak 28
Barracks 23
Backho 18
yabsab 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
SilentControl 11
HiyA 10
GoRush 8
Noble 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe774
Fuzer 270
Counter-Strike
olofmeister329
flusha278
markeloff110
Other Games
singsing2477
B2W.Neo826
DeMusliM409
crisheroes342
elazer212
Mew2King182
ArmadaUGS150
XaKoH 85
QueenE37
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream4998
Other Games
BasetradeTV37
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis8480
• Jankos2211
Upcoming Events
BSL 2v2 ProLeague
6h 2m
Replay Cast
11h 2m
CranKy Ducklings
21h 2m
SC Evo League
23h 2m
Bellum Gens Elite
23h 32m
Fire Grow Cup
1d 2h
CSO Contender
1d 4h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 5h
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 11h
SOOP Global
1d 14h
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
[ Show More ]
SOOP
1d 20h
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
AllThingsProtoss
1d 22h
Fire Grow Cup
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
5 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL Code S
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.