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On May 18 2013 13:01 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 12:29 teddyoojo wrote:On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. u have 18k posts u should know better than asking him about something stupid hahaha had to laugh :D this whole situation is hilarious to me. i guess the great wall of hongun still remains #1 hold
Parting did the same hold both games, and they weren't both messed up, presumably.
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On May 18 2013 13:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. They are good players but I am not very interested in Kespa players generally. One of my favourite things about watching a SC2 match is the LR thread and this is usually ruined for me when a Kespa player is playing. I don't want to generalize but a lot of Kespa fans are truly unbearable and downright insulting making it annoying to read the thread. Add in the fact that ZvP sucks and the winner is just going to get crushed by Innovation anyway and we get a match I would rather just skip all together.
Neither of Soulkey or sOs will get crushed by innovation... They might not win the BO7 but crushed is not something that would happen.
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The massive TL;DR that we need to give to Blizzard is Have the "Lower Game Speed" keybind unbound by default!!
They can leave "Increase Game Speed" bound because that stops at the speed that the game is normally played on, so if they notice in the first few seconds, the referee can just bump up the speed without remaking. If the game is normal, that key will have no effect.
However, the "Lower Game Speed" keybind has got to go.
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woa, what the hell? how did this escape so many peoples notice??
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On May 18 2013 13:15 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 13:01 Alejandrisha wrote:On May 18 2013 12:29 teddyoojo wrote:On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. u have 18k posts u should know better than asking him about something stupid hahaha had to laugh :D this whole situation is hilarious to me. i guess the great wall of hongun still remains #1 hold Parting did the same hold both games, and they weren't both messed up, presumably. The 2 games were completely different. First one was an early pool, 2nd was a hatch first into speedling build that came at a much later timing. They were nothing alike.
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On May 18 2013 13:18 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 13:16 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:On May 18 2013 13:10 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. They are good players but I am not very interested in Kespa players generally. One of my favourite things about watching a SC2 match is the LR thread and this is usually ruined for me when a Kespa player is playing. I don't want to generalize but a lot of Kespa fans are truly unbearable and downright insulting making it annoying to read the thread. Add in the fact that ZvP sucks and the winner is just going to get crushed by Innovation anyway and we get a match I would rather just skip all together. Neither of Soulkey or sOs will get crushed by innovation... They might not win the BO7 but crushed is not something that would happen. Roro got beat 3-0 and he is better then Soulkey and sOs.
See, you can't make definitive statements like that. RorO's play versus Innovation was very flawed. Game 2 very easily could have turned into a normal game if he'd made a few changes, and if he hadn't forgot units his extra units he would have won Game 3 outright.
If we compare RorO's play vs Innovation against sOs and Soulkey's recent vT matches, then they're both better than him.
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With this game speed messup in such a highly publicized game being missed by almost all the community (huge props to Psz btw), I wonder how many times the game speed has been messed up historically. Have there been instances, say in a Code A game where it was played at a slower speed and no one noticed? Quick, someone, go check all the VODs.
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Why is the Obs a referee anyway? That would be like having a cameraman at a football game reffing.
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On May 18 2013 13:18 Emzeeshady wrote: Roro got beat 3-0 and he is better then Soulkey and sOs.
Every player has their strengths, but RorO has a very passive and reactive playstyle which lets INnoVation control the game. Soulkey and sOs have both beaten INnoVation, I think you underestimate how good they really are.
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Maybe the reason they did not notice is beacuse it started as Faster, you wouldn't normally notice if it slowed down to Fast when you start at Faster gamespeed?
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On May 18 2013 13:30 BrokenMirage wrote: With this game speed messup in such a highly publicized game being missed by almost all the community (huge props to Psz btw), I wonder how many times the game speed has been messed up historically. Have there been instances, say in a Code A game where it was played at a slower speed and no one noticed? Quick, someone, go check all the VODs.
Since apparently it can be changed with a single keystroke by accident and apparently GSL places observers as refs, I wouldn't be surprised if this literally happened all the time.
Blizzard definitely needs to add an in-game message when game speed is changed and/or unbind that damn key by default.
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GSL really messed up on this one.
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On May 18 2013 13:18 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 13:16 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:On May 18 2013 13:10 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. They are good players but I am not very interested in Kespa players generally. One of my favourite things about watching a SC2 match is the LR thread and this is usually ruined for me when a Kespa player is playing. I don't want to generalize but a lot of Kespa fans are truly unbearable and downright insulting making it annoying to read the thread. Add in the fact that ZvP sucks and the winner is just going to get crushed by Innovation anyway and we get a match I would rather just skip all together. Neither of Soulkey or sOs will get crushed by innovation... They might not win the BO7 but crushed is not something that would happen. Roro got beat 3-0 and he is better then Soulkey and sOs.
Er, no just no. Roro's not even on the same level as SK in HOTS.
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Interesting that GOM is staying completely silent on this issue.
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On May 18 2013 13:18 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 13:16 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:On May 18 2013 13:10 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. They are good players but I am not very interested in Kespa players generally. One of my favourite things about watching a SC2 match is the LR thread and this is usually ruined for me when a Kespa player is playing. I don't want to generalize but a lot of Kespa fans are truly unbearable and downright insulting making it annoying to read the thread. Add in the fact that ZvP sucks and the winner is just going to get crushed by Innovation anyway and we get a match I would rather just skip all together. Neither of Soulkey or sOs will get crushed by innovation... They might not win the BO7 but crushed is not something that would happen. Roro got beat 3-0 and he is better then Soulkey and sOs.
... RorO has not been playing well for the last several weeks man, lol. Him not advancing isn't a surprise to me after seeing him in PL recently. His play leaves something to be desired; whereas, SK and sHy are still putting on good shows.
On May 18 2013 14:20 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 13:30 BrokenMirage wrote: With this game speed messup in such a highly publicized game being missed by almost all the community (huge props to Psz btw), I wonder how many times the game speed has been messed up historically. Have there been instances, say in a Code A game where it was played at a slower speed and no one noticed? Quick, someone, go check all the VODs. Since apparently it can be changed with a single keystroke by accident and apparently GSL places observers as refs, I wouldn't be surprised if this literally happened all the time. Blizzard definitely needs to add an in-game message when game speed is changed and/or unbind that damn key by default.
I see it happening in several tournaments all the frigging time. Either wrong map, or they have the wrong settings on, but they usually notice it right away.
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On May 18 2013 13:10 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 12:26 StarStruck wrote:On May 18 2013 11:54 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 18 2013 11:09 Fionn wrote: They'd probably get a bigger audience redoing Life vs. Parting then the semifinals. Agreed, I couldn't give two shits about sOs vs Soulkey. May I ask why? sHy and SK are pretty frigging good and their games are normally entertaining. They are good players but I am not very interested in Kespa players generally. One of my favourite things about watching a SC2 match is the LR thread and this is usually ruined for me when a Kespa player is playing. I don't want to generalize but a lot of Kespa fans are truly unbearable and downright insulting making it annoying to read the thread. Pretty ignorant, not giving a shit about a world top 5 toss meeting a top 5 zerg (plus team kill). I'd rather have Kespa's playing and a heated LR than go back to the lower gameplay standards of the pre-kespa era with circle-jerk LR's.
On May 18 2013 13:18 Emzeeshady wrote: Roro got beat 3-0 and he is better then Soulkey and sOs. Winning 1 GSL doesn't make Roro automatically better, Soulkey/sOs are exceptional. sOs could really give Innovation trouble with his unorthodox playstyle and hallucinate tech fakes.
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Depends what you watch for I guess. If you watch enough of the kespa players they'll develop their own storylines/personalities then you can enjoy that stuff alongside top gameplay. To call them faceless koreans makes you just as bad as the kespa fanboys you get so irritated by.
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