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RFDaemoniac
Profile Joined September 2011
United States544 Posts
May 10 2013 17:54 GMT
#21
There was a 2 hour show hosted by ChanmanV yesterday talking about the role that maps play and how to encourage their use in tournaments. If you haven't already seen it, the VOD is on YouTube.
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 18:01:26
May 10 2013 18:01 GMT
#22
the first time i read mapmaking instead of maphacking was on the
On May 10 2013 02:23 Ragoo wrote:
2. Mapmaking organizations and contests


it was quite a suprise "blizzard maphacking team" etc
are you evolving?
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#23
Thank you for the comprehensive read.

I am still unsure what to think about the whole "Mapmakers fight against a vicious circle of apathy" and how to change it, but thanks for the food for thoughts.

I am looking forward for the entries of TLMC2. Do your best, mapmakers!
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
May 10 2013 18:37 GMT
#24
Interesting read, thx. Maps are SOOOO important to making SC2 more enjoyable. The latest ladder maps added by Blizzard are so terrible. I wish we could have like 20 awesome maps at a time on ladder. It would make ladder way more interesting!
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lil emo
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 20:46:58
May 10 2013 20:13 GMT
#25
ty ragoo

uhhh??? are we going to get similarly interesting posts from all your judge colleagues too?
.. are you not the standard they must meet?


I really liked the graphs .. most entertaining thank you ...

edit:
+ Show Spoiler +
"Making a mass-appealing game in this way isn't like making great food, it's like putting nicotine in the food"
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
May 10 2013 21:02 GMT
#26
On May 11 2013 02:41 GameHeart wrote:
Blizzard should add a second ladder which just uses recent community maps and awards double points (experience probably not ladder points) or something just to get people playing them. And maybe cycle them every 1 or 2 months to get fresh maps in. If one map really stands out move it to the main ladder.

I think a lot of people would play on a ladder with community maps just for a change of pace every now and then. It would create some variety in laddering, get much needed testing and visibility for community maps, and allow the creme to rise to the top.


I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. A separate ladder or even an unranked ladder with a fresh map pool could be a lot of fun.

If it were my ladder I would set it up this way: You start with a very large map pool, say 100 maps. Then after each game Bnet asks the players to rank the map 1-10. Newer maps will be more likely to be chosen for matches, and of course maps with higher ratings will be more likely to be chosen for matches. If you want to get crazy you could weight a higher league player's ratings higher. In this way you'd end up with a ladder where the best maps rise to the top, and also a fun place for players to escape the doldrums of ladder anxiety.

Very nice writeup, Ragoo. (Very worth the full read for those of you skimming)
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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
May 10 2013 21:07 GMT
#27
On May 11 2013 06:02 TheFish7 wrote:
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On May 11 2013 02:41 GameHeart wrote:
Blizzard should add a second ladder which just uses recent community maps and awards double points (experience probably not ladder points) or something just to get people playing them. And maybe cycle them every 1 or 2 months to get fresh maps in. If one map really stands out move it to the main ladder.

I think a lot of people would play on a ladder with community maps just for a change of pace every now and then. It would create some variety in laddering, get much needed testing and visibility for community maps, and allow the creme to rise to the top.


I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. A separate ladder or even an unranked ladder with a fresh map pool could be a lot of fun.


This idea was brought to a blizzard mapper when I was talking to him. Believe it or not, they had it in mind before we even brought it to their attention. However, he said all they do is "discuss" things with maps, since the actual blizzard mappers have no say in map pools or what maps get chosen. He said all that is under the decision of david kim. That was all he told me. Bright side, at least they know about the idea.
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