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On May 02 2013 02:42 Little-Chimp wrote:
Wow at that poll. HerO and Major should play worse games because Americans are butthurt about Koreans in their tournament I guess. The negativity and spitefulness really gets me in these threads sometimes.
It's not negativity or spitefulness actually. People vote that way because they want something to change, and maybe if it sucks to play in WCS AM from Korea, then Koreans won't play in it in the future, or maybe they'll move to NA, which is also good. The whole point is that people want the AM scene to grow, even at the price of bad games now.
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On May 02 2013 02:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:38 TrippSC2 wrote:On May 02 2013 02:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? You make a completely different argument. You completely, 100%, missed the point. I don't think he missed the point at all. His point is that the increased latency (even if it's equal for both players) is unpleasant and therefore an artificial deterrent for cross-region players. It's a valid argument. I disagree with it, but it is a valid argument. He's ultimately arguing about the overall system. This isn't about the overall system. If he wants a nationality based region lock (which he obviously does) it's a different discussion than this. His argument is basically "yeah it's worse for them but they shouldn't be allowed to be here anyway so fuck them"
It's all relevant to the overall gaming experience.
In your scenario Koreans know that when they play American players who are nowhere near as good they have to play with lag, but that's fine because they're much better players so they'll win anyway. When they do play anyone good (i.e a Korean) they can play lag free. This is a much more desirable situation and makes them far more likely to play in WCS AM.
In my situation they always have to play with lag, therefore it's less enjoyable to play WCS AM and they are less likely to play in it, which in the absence of Blizzard outright banning Europeans/Koreans playing from their region (which is what they should do) is at least some form of barrier/obstacle.
Simple.
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On May 02 2013 02:44 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:42 Little-Chimp wrote:
Wow at that poll. HerO and Major should play worse games because Americans are butthurt about Koreans in their tournament I guess. The negativity and spitefulness really gets me in these threads sometimes. Did you actually bother to read the thread? Other players have already had to play their games on NA, the rules said that the games would be played on NA and they willingly signed up for WCS NA. Mid-season rules changes to give special treatment to certain players are a bad thing.
It's called having a little bit of flexibility within their rigid standards. Like people said, this game is in a vacuum. In any situation where it's Korean vs. NA, than OBVIOUSLY the NA server should be picked.
I can understand and accept if MLG wants to absolutely stick to their rules, but in no way is it the better decision.
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On May 02 2013 02:36 Bumblebee wrote:
Friends, we're all in the same boat. We want what is best for all of us. Most of the arguments you're using have nothing to do with the actual game and this rule, but more so that you think there should be a region lock differently than the one being used. This rule does not make much sense since you allowed Koreans in.
If you want a different WCS NA with a different rule on the region lock, that is where your blood, sweat and tears should be spent since it'd actually matter and be useful there.
But that is the problem. People don't want an online event for NA. They don't want people practicing on KR and then switching to NA to play in WCS. They want players to invest in this region and player here. And people are tired of special rules and exception that make it easier for players to practice in KR and switch to NA for a couple seasons until it goes off-line only. People don't want to make exceptions any more, which is what the players are asking for.
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On May 02 2013 02:46 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:36 Bumblebee wrote:
Friends, we're all in the same boat. We want what is best for all of us. Most of the arguments you're using have nothing to do with the actual game and this rule, but more so that you think there should be a region lock differently than the one being used. This rule does not make much sense since you allowed Koreans in.
If you want a different WCS NA with a different rule on the region lock, that is where your blood, sweat and tears should be spent since it'd actually matter and be useful there. But that is the problem. People don't want an online event for NA. They don't want people practicing on KR and then switching to NA to play in WCS. They want players to invest in this region and player here. And people are tired of special rules and exception that make it easier for players to practice in KR and switch to NA for a couple seasons until it goes off-line only. People don't want to make exceptions any more, which is what the players are asking for.
So why don't you voice these complaints in Blizzard's direction, instead of punishing the players that already got screwed over by the shitty handling of this event?
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On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart
region lock is not part of the discussion here. Maybe you wouldn't even be eligible playing WCS Americas residing in Korea atm, if there was a lock.
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On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart
Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem.
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On May 02 2013 02:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:46 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 Bumblebee wrote:
Friends, we're all in the same boat. We want what is best for all of us. Most of the arguments you're using have nothing to do with the actual game and this rule, but more so that you think there should be a region lock differently than the one being used. This rule does not make much sense since you allowed Koreans in.
If you want a different WCS NA with a different rule on the region lock, that is where your blood, sweat and tears should be spent since it'd actually matter and be useful there. But that is the problem. People don't want an online event for NA. They don't want people practicing on KR and then switching to NA to play in WCS. They want players to invest in this region and player here. And people are tired of special rules and exception that make it easier for players to practice in KR and switch to NA for a couple seasons until it goes off-line only. People don't want to make exceptions any more, which is what the players are asking for. So why don't you voice these complaints in Blizzard's direction, instead of punishing the players that already got screwed over by the shitty handling of this event?
Because if we give major and hero special treatment we punish all the players who went along with the rules?
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Austria24422 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:45 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 02:38 TrippSC2 wrote:On May 02 2013 02:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? You make a completely different argument. You completely, 100%, missed the point. I don't think he missed the point at all. His point is that the increased latency (even if it's equal for both players) is unpleasant and therefore an artificial deterrent for cross-region players. It's a valid argument. I disagree with it, but it is a valid argument. He's ultimately arguing about the overall system. This isn't about the overall system. If he wants a nationality based region lock (which he obviously does) it's a different discussion than this. His argument is basically "yeah it's worse for them but they shouldn't be allowed to be here anyway so fuck them" It's all relevant to the overall gaming experience. In your scenario Koreans know that when they play American players who are nowhere near as good they have to play with lag, but that's fine because they're much better players so they'll win anyway. When they do play anyone good (i.e a Korean) they can play lag free. This is a much more desirable situation and makes them far more likely to play in WCS AM. In my situation they always have to play with lag, therefore it's less enjoyable to play WCS AM and they are less likely to play in it, which in the absence of Blizzard outright banning Europeans/Koreans playing from their region (which is what they should do) is at least some form of barrier/obstacle. Simple.
How does that make any sense? Lol.
If they play another Korean they'll know that the other player will have the same amount of lag as they do so nothing changed whatsoever. WTF does it change except that the game will be worse?
If you just wanna get the koreans out of your region, that's fine. Terrible opinion in my book but not my place to judge that. But you're dumping that on the wrong people. Blizzard created the system you dislike, not the players.
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Well, it's said in the rules that players meet at battle net (Europe region) at least for my WCS EU games so i guess it says Americas region and nothing more for them. You can read it as a set server and change is non debatable.
By they way why is it so that the only time i hear about Major is when there is drama involved with him? Like changing teams/nicknames all the time instead of some competetive stuff/community involvement.
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On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem.
that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment
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On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart
It's already been stated that Blizz is stupid for not region locking the tournament. Should there be a mid-season rule change that Blizz can no longer be a part of the tournament they're funding and have created? You're not making rational arguments, which is understandable considering the position you're in.
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On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart
If Blizzard are unclear on how the fans feel about this situation it's important we the fans express our overwhelming dislike of it. Anything which causes Blizzard to put in a region lock ASAP is a good thing, we cannot be loud enough in expressing how unacceptable this situation is.
On May 02 2013 02:42 Little-Chimp wrote:
Wow at that poll. HerO and Major should play worse games because Americans are butthurt about Koreans in their tournament I guess. The negativity and spitefulness really gets me in these threads sometimes.
No spite here, I prefer Korean players, every one of my favourite players is a Korean, it's not about me hating Koreans at all.
That said, there's no fun in supporting Koreans when they win 99% of the time and despite me preferring Koreans I'm sensible enough to realise that America and Europe need there own league where there's real livable money on the line and they can actually compete with people on their own level.
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On May 02 2013 02:47 Pik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart region lock is not part of the discussion here. Maybe you wouldn't even be eligible playing WCS Americas residing in Korea atm, if there was a lock.
ofcrouse i would be eligible do u even know where i am from lol?
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other players have already played on NA during this tournament? then there's nothing more to discuss because giving special treatment to major and hero would be unfair to nestea and his opponent.
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Austria24422 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart If Blizzard are unclear on how the fans feel about this situation it's important we the fans express our overwhelming dislike of it. Anything which causes Blizzard to put in a region lock ASAP is a good thing, we cannot be loud enough in expressing how unacceptable this situation is. Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:42 Little-Chimp wrote:
Wow at that poll. HerO and Major should play worse games because Americans are butthurt about Koreans in their tournament I guess. The negativity and spitefulness really gets me in these threads sometimes. No spite here, I prefer Korean players, every one of my favourite players is a Korean, it's not about me hating Koreans at all. That said, there's no fun in supporting Koreans when they win 99% of the time and despite me preferring Koreans I'm sensible enough to realise that America and Europe need there own league where there's real livable money on the line and they can actually compete with people on their own level.
YOUR OPINION. You're being loud for your opinion. I wanted to say that so nobody will ever ever ever ever assume that I'm of an opinion anything even similar to yours.
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Just look at how major and TL deal with this, so unprofessional. Maybe you should figure this stuff out beforehand instead of bitching about it last minute on TL thread. I'm sure trying to curse out mlg employees is really helping your case major.
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On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment
You willingly signed up for the tournament, the rules say all games will be played on NA server, the other players abided by that rule. Why do you get special treatment? How is it fair that the rules are changed for certain players when others have already had to play out their matches on NA?
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On May 02 2013 02:49 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 02:48 Plansix wrote:On May 02 2013 02:42 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:36 MajOr wrote:On May 02 2013 02:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 02 2013 02:18 Bumblebee wrote:
I don't even see why anyone of you would vote for they should be playing on NA server. Ultimately, it's you guys who are suffering. The players would be on equal latency, but the overall game quality is lower than what it would be on the Korean server. It just gives you a worse experience, how are you voting for that as a fan lol Because this is WCS AM and the players playing should be based in AM, therefore they're playing on the AM ladder and contributing to the development of the AM scene. Anything which makes it harder for players outside the AM region to play in this tournament is a good thing in my mind and the mind of most fans because ultimately Hero should not even be allowed to play in this tournament. The short term gain of a slightly better Bo3 is not worth losing the principle that this is a purely AM server tournament that should serve the interests of players who play on the AM server. What about that is hard to understand? blame that to blizzard not to the players, you people seem to miss the point if it is a korean player vs a american player(living in america) than obviously all games should be played on us servers, but if its a korean vs a korean, or in my case american living in korea vs a korean, why in the fuck do we have to play on us server? IT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES ME SO UPSET THAT ALL THE FANS THINK ITS FINE IF WE PLAY ON NA JUST CAUSE BLIZZARD DECIDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE OUTSIDE AMERICA TO PLAY ON WCS AMERICA. FOR FUCK SAKE Any barrier that makes it more awkward/unpleasant for people who aren't contributing to the American scene to play in the American servers WCS is a good thing. so lets punish the players instead of the organization that decided that the tournament wouldnt be region locked. smart Is your game really going to be that terrible if you play on NA? Nestea did it last night without a problem. that is beyond the point if its terrible or not we should be allowed to play in optimal conditions, which we arent at the moment
Should you be allowed to pick your own maps (if you both agree)?
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