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Blizzard and MLG respond to WCS NA issues - Page 3

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coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
April 25 2013 01:58 GMT
#41
On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.

Like who?
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
April 25 2013 01:58 GMT
#42
On April 25 2013 10:27 oneofthem wrote:
nice unified structure with this incredibly well run MLG as your only qualifying tournament for half the world.


Yup. I really feel like MLG is this terribly poorly run utility, say a cable provider or something, but they are the only one and you have to deal with them regardless of how terrible they run things. They can screw up over and over and nothing will happen because they are the only 'show in town' ...
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 25 2013 02:00 GMT
#43
How can they still justify inviting people like Hellokitty over Demuslim?

Are they seriously saying, they looked at the results of those two players, and came to a conclusion that somehow Hellokitty had more sucess in 2012?
secret - never again
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
April 25 2013 02:00 GMT
#44
I don't get why so many people are so mad about the Demuslim situation, I understand he is a fan favorite and I also understand there are people you can make this same arguement about that were invited but he really hasnt done anything to justify an invite from event placings...
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
April 25 2013 02:03 GMT
#45
On April 25 2013 10:58 coverpunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.

Like who?


go ask iG.edison
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TheUnderking
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada202 Posts
April 25 2013 02:06 GMT
#46
Shit reply, just like the one Sundance made.
THE PACT IS SEALED!
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
April 25 2013 02:06 GMT
#47
On April 25 2013 11:03 illidanx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 10:58 coverpunch wrote:
On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.

Like who?


go ask iG.edison

Then don't act like it's anything more than speculation.
Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
April 25 2013 02:08 GMT
#48
The amount of bullshit coming out of this person's mouth regarding inviting hello kitty, goswser, and capoch. ALSO THEOGNIS AND MINIGUN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING!@?!?!?!?! I want him to straight up list the reasons why minigun is invited. His ability to beat idra and NO ONE ELSE, doesn't qualify him over demuslim. Who has competed on the world stage, and none of the players listed above have EVER played at a level high enough to even qualify for the events He's played in...........

Its all a smoke screen where they just forgot about him, so they decided to invite sub par NA players so they could be knocked out in the first round by koreans they didn't "expect (again, more bullshit. Its projectile bullshit at this point) to join.

What a disappointing tourney.

seriously. inviting minigun over demuslim. You need to be on some special kind of crack to accept that at even a CURSORY glance.......
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
April 25 2013 02:08 GMT
#49
On April 25 2013 11:03 illidanx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 10:58 coverpunch wrote:
On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.

Like who?


go ask iG.edison


plenty of that has to speculation, but more relevant is that there were probably plenty enough joe american gold players (or up to low master) that played or signed up and things like WCS china champion doesn't get a slot for a qualifier for a WCS event.
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Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
April 25 2013 02:10 GMT
#50
On April 25 2013 11:00 ch33psh33p wrote:
How can they still justify inviting people like Hellokitty over Demuslim?

Are they seriously saying, they looked at the results of those two players, and came to a conclusion that somehow Hellokitty had more sucess in 2012?


THIs. I already posted above. I'm not even a demuslim fan and have never watched his stream. But the bullshit, it's an endless torrent that simply will not cease.

people would pray to a pantheon of gods to halt the oncoming tide and stench of such a downpour of feces being drooled on them from above.
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 25 2013 02:15 GMT
#51
On April 25 2013 11:10 Ravensong170 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 11:00 ch33psh33p wrote:
How can they still justify inviting people like Hellokitty over Demuslim?

Are they seriously saying, they looked at the results of those two players, and came to a conclusion that somehow Hellokitty had more sucess in 2012?


THIs. I already posted above. I'm not even a demuslim fan and have never watched his stream. But the bullshit, it's an endless torrent that simply will not cease.

people would pray to a pantheon of gods to halt the oncoming tide and stench of such a downpour of feces being drooled on them from above.

Hellokitty is American, Demuslim is not.

Demuslim would have to be compared to some of the non-American seeds like Snute and Nestea.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
April 25 2013 02:20 GMT
#52
On April 25 2013 11:15 Iodem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 11:10 Ravensong170 wrote:
On April 25 2013 11:00 ch33psh33p wrote:
How can they still justify inviting people like Hellokitty over Demuslim?

Are they seriously saying, they looked at the results of those two players, and came to a conclusion that somehow Hellokitty had more sucess in 2012?


THIs. I already posted above. I'm not even a demuslim fan and have never watched his stream. But the bullshit, it's an endless torrent that simply will not cease.

people would pray to a pantheon of gods to halt the oncoming tide and stench of such a downpour of feces being drooled on them from above.

Hellokitty is American, Demuslim is not.

Demuslim would have to be compared to some of the non-American seeds like Snute and Nestea.



sooo inviting a player who lives in NA, but isn't american means he shouldn't be invited over Hellokitty? At least polt lives in the US. Nestea and Snute do not live in the US, so I dunno why they would be compared to him at all. Snute should stay in europe and Nestea in Korea, makes more sense for the WCS NA.

He lives in NA, and should thusly, be given an invite as such.
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 25 2013 02:21 GMT
#53
On April 25 2013 11:20 Ravensong170 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 11:15 Iodem wrote:
On April 25 2013 11:10 Ravensong170 wrote:
On April 25 2013 11:00 ch33psh33p wrote:
How can they still justify inviting people like Hellokitty over Demuslim?

Are they seriously saying, they looked at the results of those two players, and came to a conclusion that somehow Hellokitty had more sucess in 2012?


THIs. I already posted above. I'm not even a demuslim fan and have never watched his stream. But the bullshit, it's an endless torrent that simply will not cease.

people would pray to a pantheon of gods to halt the oncoming tide and stench of such a downpour of feces being drooled on them from above.

Hellokitty is American, Demuslim is not.

Demuslim would have to be compared to some of the non-American seeds like Snute and Nestea.



sooo inviting a player who lives in NA, but isn't american means he shouldn't be invited over Hellokitty? At least polt lives in the US. Nestea and Snute do not live in the US, so I dunno why they would be compared to him at all. Snute should stay in europe and Nestea in Korea, makes more sense for the WCS NA.

He lives in NA, and should thusly, be given an invite as such.


66.6% of seeds were given to Citizens of a country in the Americas

33.3% of seeds were given to people not native to the American continents
If you don't like it, you can quit.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17181 Posts
April 25 2013 02:40 GMT
#54
where aer all the "Blizzard apologists" who claimed the mess was 100% MLG's fault and that Blizzard had 0 culpability.

Good to see Blizzard taking the stance any good leader does and not running from the issues.

As usual, good work by Breslau.
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Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
April 25 2013 02:51 GMT
#55
Fail on Demuslim. Good to see a response though.
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
April 25 2013 04:24 GMT
#56
On April 25 2013 11:08 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 11:03 illidanx wrote:
On April 25 2013 10:58 coverpunch wrote:
On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.

Like who?


go ask iG.edison


plenty of that has to speculation, but more relevant is that there were probably plenty enough joe american gold players (or up to low master) that played or signed up and things like WCS china champion doesn't get a slot for a qualifier for a WCS event.


WCS China champion should have a direct invite, seriously.
Blizzard is very dumb not to force more support towards the Chinese scene, because the potential for them and for esport is really big if Chinese start picking up starcraft 2 more.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 25 2013 04:26 GMT
#57
But when they move wcs online, there will be an un relocation and... blargh. People will adapt to the system put before them, and MLG should have been aware of that.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 25 2013 04:34 GMT
#58
hmm well at least they admitted the fault about the Chinese incident but honestly, I don't think they can do much regarding it. They can't just decide to remove people from Code S to seed them in or reduce WCS NA to give them another chance. Unfortunately, it's too late so ya, challenger league for them then but I'm sure they'll be able to make it if Comm got so close to qualifying before he was DQ'd.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 04:36:40
April 25 2013 04:36 GMT
#59
On April 25 2013 09:27 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 09:24 calippo wrote:
Still missing alot of information regarding almost everything, but what can you expect from a rushed project. What i find funny is that you actually have to cheat in a really big online tournament to get banned for map/drop hacking, that is how much Blizzard cares about doing something about it, disgusting. They are so far behind in all their games with "anticheat" T.T.


what (major) game developer is ahead of them in anticheating?

Valve.

There's no maphacks for Dota 2 because unit locations are stored server-side.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 25 2013 04:37 GMT
#60
I'm probably as big of a DeMusliM fan as anybody, but I think I can understand where him not getting a seed comes from. Purely based on results, considering we have to compare him to the eight international seeds, let's do a quick rundown of those eight players' recent accomplishments:

Ryung: GSL Code S Ro4, multiple Code A appearances, GSTL performance
HerO: GSL Code S Ro8, multiple Code A appearances, Proleague performance, Dreamhack Winter champion, NASL 4 champion
Nestea: GSL Code S Ro32, multiple Code A appearances
Polt: GSL Code S Ro16, IPL 5 3rd place, NASL 4 3rd place
viOLet: IPL 5 2nd place, NASL 4 2nd place
Snute: HSC VI champion, Dreamhack Winter Ro8
Sen: WCS Global Finals 4th place
mOOnGLaDe: WCS Oceania champion, WCS Australia champion

When you consider these results, DeMu only really can hold a candle to mOOnGLaDe and Sen, unfortunately, and they're largely there to represent underrepresented regions (on top of being very good players). DeMu's accomplishments of Ro8 at NASL 4 and 2nd in the WCS UK aren't up to scratch, as much as I would like them to be.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
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