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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 25 2013 11:06 coverpunch wrote: Then don't act like it's anything more than speculation. Go to the thread Chinese player left out, you will find the link that point koreans register in 16th. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/team/egoz like oz | ||
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Missing-No
Canada50 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
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DeathProfessor
United States1052 Posts
 They are jerks. Maybe they have had some MIT graduates make a system near to the Aligulac where it shows how good players are and Demu didn't quite make the cut. Who knows, I feel he deserves a casting job for WCS NA so he can get something for the FANS though.I also wonder how much shit he gets for his name, people don't like religious elements in their games, perhaps people wouldn't pick on him if he was named DeGamer, just a thought. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 25 2013 13:47 DeathProfessor wrote: Blizzard called Demuslim a ladder hero basically. They are jerks. Maybe they have had some MIT graduates make a system near to the Aligulac where it shows how good players are and Demu didn't quite make the cut. Who knows, I feel he deserves a casting job for WCS NA so he can get something for the FANS though.I also wonder how much shit he gets for his name, people don't like religious elements in their games, perhaps people wouldn't pick on him if he was named DeGamer, just a thought. LOL，that what i thought for a long time, wtf is that name.. | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote: Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play. Because those Korean players in question were probably invites by MLG? | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 25 2013 13:53 Weirdkid wrote: Because those Korean players in question were probably invites by MLG? Invited players + 512 > 512, only 512 player played, Means someone got kicked. | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 25 2013 13:59 jalen wrote: Invited players + 512 > 512, only 512 player played, Means someone got kicked. Invited players part of 512 = No one got kicked?  | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
On April 25 2013 09:53 Penev wrote: This kind of answer annoys me. An apology followed by a summary of the "current tournament system" while it's the tournament system itself that caused the problems and this is what they should apologize for. Like: "We obviously should have had more/ bigger qualifiers or at least have the higher skilled players prioritized over the lower ones. This should not have happened, we apologize." Geez. A journalist should not be satisfied with this either and should ask follow up questions. You have to realize we have journalists like news stations have journalists who ask a president questions...it's always only pre approved soft balls. At least so long as you want exclusive 1 on 1 interviews with developers and leagues. If he went off script and asked truly hard questions and called them out on bullshit he'd never get the exclusives again. Which in turn could lead to the journalist losing their paycheck, who is going to risk that? The only way we get real in depth journalism is for someone who is independently wealthy to be the one to take up the cause of doing true journalism. That or someone funded by an organization who is willing to strain relationships with devs / leagues to do true journalism. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 25 2013 14:00 Weirdkid wrote: Invited players part of 512 = No one got kicked? If invited players are part of 512，YES. But they are not. They registered so late, 1000 + | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On April 25 2013 13:53 Weirdkid wrote: Because those Korean players in question were probably invites by MLG? Question: 1. Did these players of the so-called 64 invites by MLG receive notification ahead of time that they would be able to participate in the tournament? 2. If so, what was the criteria of these 64 invites? 3. Is there even a list of these 64 invites existing before hand? | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 25 2013 14:03 jalen wrote: If invited players are part of 512，YES. But they are not. They registered so late, 1000 + Yes, but being invited and registering early isn't linked. If the player was invited, it means that MLG has already set aside a place within the 512 for them (They did say that 64 slots would be for invited players). Edit: On April 25 2013 14:14 Caihead wrote: Question: 1. Did these players of the so-called 64 invites by MLG receive notification ahead of time that they would be able to participate in the tournament? 2. If so, what was the criteria of these 64 invites? 3. Is there even a list of these 64 invites existing before hand? These are very good questions that MLG should probably answer. I'm not aware of any list of the 64 invites (based on the information on this forum). I very vaguely remember seeing something in this forum that wrote about one of the criteria being the player's team (i.e. they'd invite players from teams that had attended MLG before or something like that). Memory about this is very vague though, coz I only gave it a cursory glance. Also not sure about how reliable the post was. I don't know. I just feel like explaining this particular incident of the late registering Koreans by saying it's due to invites makes more sense than saying MLG is trying to screw over the Chinese players and kicking them out just to make way for the Korean players that registered later. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 25 2013 14:16 Weirdkid wrote: Yes, but being invited and registering early isn't linked. If the player was invited, it means that MLG has already set aside a place within the 512 for them (They did say that 64 slots would be for invited players). Unfortunately, MLG did not do that. OZ,JYP, alive, lots of koreans register themselves, late. They force MLG have to randomly kicked someone in top 512, which include one of my friend register just one hour after the register time started. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3813 Posts
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jiberish
80 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On April 25 2013 09:24 Alryk wrote: I don't agree with those reasons stated about not seeding demuslim. Did hello kitty really accomplish more than him? I mean, nothing against him, but the two aren't very comparable. at least we are getting some kind of response. Edit: regarding China: didn't they already show that chinese players registered before several korean players who were admitted? These reasons are really disappointing, and some of them don't even address things that have already been said. Blizzard and MLG are being really, really evasive about some questions and it's seriously hurting them. Some invitees - Goswser, Hellokitty, and Capoch. Demuslim has made it through 2? I think NASLs, and while he didn't place as highly as these players in their respective WCS tourneys (Goswser hasn't even made one! All he did was beat MVP in iron squid 2, which is a fantastic result. But it isn't anything more difficult than what Demuslim has done), the tournaments he has participated in are all arguably significantly more difficult. They just screwed up, plain and simple. I'm not taking anything away from anybody, but the notion that he "didn't perform well enough in 2012" is stupid. He went 7-1 in a group with MMA, Sen, Finale, and Stephano in NASL S4, 3-0'd Sen, and lost 2-3 to Violet (who got second btw). He made it to the playoffs in NASL S2 and S3 as well iirc. they are NOT in the same issue (hellokitty and demuslim) why no one read the god damn thing there was i dont know 24 ? americans and demuslim as far as i know is no, and then 8 foreign slots. the foreign slots went to nestea, moonglade, sen, snute and few other koreans all of them did better 2012, moonglade foreign rank 1 atm etc etc, so you have to see demuslim vs this 8 and demuslim did NOTHING compared to them, he is a monster but he didnt SHOW it so far last year On April 25 2013 14:33 jiberish wrote: What a piss poor response. So many of the invited people are far worse than demuslim. same for you READ the rules | ||
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ladytr0n
United States51 Posts
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 25 2013 14:24 jalen wrote: Unfortunately, MLG did not do that. OZ,JYP, alive, lots of koreans register themselves, late. They force MLG have to randomly kicked someone in top 512, which include one of my friend register just one hour after the register time started. If they have set aside 64 spots for invites, it means they will only take in the first 448 players that are not invited and registered, not 512. The invited players, when they registered, no matter how late, could then be placed the 64 reserved spots. Yes? Of course, we don't know exactly who were invited, but I'd say Oz, JYP, alive, would probably be amongst them because of their fame or because of their team. I also don't know if my explanation is what exactly took place, but based on the MLG registration rules, I feel it does seem to be this way. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 25 2013 14:40 ladytr0n wrote: For all the people complaining about DeMuslim not getting a spot... I am sure all the young kids and silver level SC2 players were shocked by a rank 1 GM NA not getting selected ... however ... if you look at the tournament results for DeMuslim over the last 2 years, it is very very bad. You will easily understand and agree with WCS' choice in not giving him a direct spot. Doing it online is one thing, but doing it on LAN is where he has failed time and time again. Agree, ranking in NA server doesn't tell anything. We can see IG.macsed, Polt got 90% winning ratio at NA server, but they are not No.1 Ranking on the ladder.. | ||
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