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There were multiple issues regarding the Chinese players including iG's Hui "Comm" Shen being disqualified late in the tournament, and several players not getting into the brackets. What exactly happened here? Will anything be done to accommodate the Chinese players in this qualifier?
First off, we want to apologize for any miscommunication and confusion related to the Chinese players and the qualifier. Players that were unable to participate in the first qualifier and those that were beaten by competitors who were disqualified now have the opportunity to compete in the Open Qualifier for Challenger League that will take place on Saturday, April 27. Registration will open on Thursday, April 25 at 5 p.m. ET online.
Related to the first qualifier, within the current tournament system, entry is on a first–come, first-served basis, and the first 512 players were admitted. The Chinese players (including Comm) unfortunately registered later than others which placed them back in the cue. Admins confirmed they had checked in, not that they were confirmed in the tournament itself. When it was revealed that Comm had gone on to play using another player's account, which is a rules violation, he was disqualified.
This kind of answer annoys me. An apology followed by a summary of the "current tournament system" while it's the tournament system itself that caused the problems and this is what they should apologize for.
Like: "We obviously should have had more/ bigger qualifiers or at least have the higher skilled players prioritized over the lower ones. This should not have happened, we apologize." Geez.
A journalist should not be satisfied with this either and should ask follow up questions.
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On April 25 2013 09:52 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:23 Esoterikk wrote:
Do they even realize you don't need to "pick up and move to a different country" to play in WCS outside of your region? You will later?
You only need to be there temporarily when you're playing your Offline matches, no need to actually live there longterm. It's like flying in to compete in a small tournament.
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On April 25 2013 09:51 Disco.stu. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:45 Cayn wrote:
but they don't use warden in the way of kill them with fire as soon as spotted but more in the way of lets watch for a long period of time and ban in big waves. Yeah, as I understand it, if Warden detects anything weird, it flags you, and then at some point after that, could be months after, blizzard bans everyone that is flagged. Maybe now they'll just check tournament players before the first game is played to see if they have been flagged by Warden, and if so, they will just not allow them to play. They said they're working on something, who knows what that might be. But to say they don't care about hacking or that they are years behind other organizations in their anti-hacking policy, is just ignorant.
So if it takes them 6-12 months to ban those flagged people we should be ok with that?. I dont see what stops them from having dedicated people to go thru those logs of flagged people on a daily basis and make the process faster.
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On April 25 2013 09:46 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:43 saksy2 wrote:On April 25 2013 09:38 Dexington wrote:
Ah, good thing they got more accomplished players such as Capoch, Hellokitty and Fenix instead of Demuslim in that case. But he wasn't competing against them for the spot, he was competing against Sen, Snute, + Koreans. If Demu could get an "American" invite just because he lives in the US, then every single Code B korean could just move there as well and get the spot seeing as they have better achivements than Demuslims Ro8 loser bracket finish at MLG I don't think most of the Code B Koreans have any results actually, since all they do is stay in Korea in code B. You're also ignoring Demuslim's IEM and NASL performances.
Ignoring the Demu vs Sen, Snute + Koreans issue, do you still think Demuslim has better results than Puzzle, Ganzi, Jjakji, Monster, Genius, Inca, Bisu, Top, to name a few?
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Edit: That's unfortunate about the Chinese players, still seems pretty wrong.
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On April 25 2013 09:53 Penev wrote:Show nested quote + There were multiple issues regarding the Chinese players including iG's Hui "Comm" Shen being disqualified late in the tournament, and several players not getting into the brackets. What exactly happened here? Will anything be done to accommodate the Chinese players in this qualifier?
First off, we want to apologize for any miscommunication and confusion related to the Chinese players and the qualifier. Players that were unable to participate in the first qualifier and those that were beaten by competitors who were disqualified now have the opportunity to compete in the Open Qualifier for Challenger League that will take place on Saturday, April 27. Registration will open on Thursday, April 25 at 5 p.m. ET online.
Related to the first qualifier, within the current tournament system, entry is on a first–come, first-served basis, and the first 512 players were admitted. The Chinese players (including Comm) unfortunately registered later than others which placed them back in the cue. Admins confirmed they had checked in, not that they were confirmed in the tournament itself. When it was revealed that Comm had gone on to play using another player's account, which is a rules violation, he was disqualified. This kind of answer annoys me. An apology followed by a summary of the "current tournament system" while it's the tournament system itself that caused the problems and this is what they should apologize for. Like: "We obviously should have had more/ bigger qualifiers or at least have the higher skilled players prioritized over the lower ones. This should not have happened, we apologize." Geez. A journalist should not be satisfied with this either and should ask follow up questions.
Their "answer" about the chinese players is complete bullshit. They pretty much just said "Yeah the chinese got screwed by our lousy preparation and handling of the situation so now they can go to the other qualifier and get screwed over again"
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Garbage responses by Blizzard... " play in Code A and stop complaining ok?"
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Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.
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On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play.
Because of favoritism? Pretty obvious i think =D
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Yeah they're just skirting around the actual issues.
The Chinese players deserved a shot at Code S and never got to even try. Allowing them entry to the Code A QUALIFIERS doesn't make up for this error. There is no leniency regarding their decision to disqualify Comm and they seem to have no intent whatsoever to actually revisit this issue. DeMuslim clearly deserved a seed in WCS America's Code S, and results-wise there are a few invites to Code S that didn't really seem to make as much sense compared to getting DeMuslim in there.
MLG and Blizzard are just doing the bare minimum, and I am very disappointed in them. I'll just stick to GSL then thanks.
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At no point have they actually acknowledged how badly they screwed over certain people or made any sort of adequate amends.
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On April 25 2013 09:52 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:23 Esoterikk wrote:
Do they even realize you don't need to "pick up and move to a different country" to play in WCS outside of your region? I think it's clear that after this year, they intend to move more of the WCS offline over time.
hopefully
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On April 25 2013 10:03 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 10:02 illidanx wrote:
Still no answer why some Korean players registered after the Chinese players could still play. Because of favoritism? Pretty obvious i think =D
This. is. exactly. right!
There is no other explanation for it.
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On April 25 2013 10:01 geokilla wrote:
Garbage responses by Blizzard... " play in Code A and stop complaining ok?"
It's not code A, it's a qualifier to a qualifier to Code A 
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nice unified structure with this incredibly well run MLG as your only qualifying tournament for half the world.
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Horrible answers and with that I will not be watching any wcs america. I wasn't going to be the biggest watcher either way but I was interested in the story of it and watched quite a bit of wcs america code s qualifier. They clearly have no intention of addressing the chinese issue correctly so I will not support their product.
And really I do not care THAT much about the issues but for them to go out of their ways to do the bare minimum and to give repeated answers that can be summarized as "get off my back" they do not deserve viewers.
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Shit ass answer for the demuslim mistake... I'll make the "mistake" not to tune in until he actually makes it there. He's pretty much the best foreigner in NA right now.... what a shame. My time is more valuable than watching some of the invited players play.
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somewhat silly if u compare wcs eu and wcs na both get pitchforked after premier qualifier one of them steps it up really hard the other one just excuses into next stupid decisions.
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I'd like to chalk all this up to first year growing pains, but you'd think with the developer directly involved things would have been planned out a bit sooner and more thoroughly.
This whole WCS thing seems like a very rushed version of something that could have been really awesome, and hopefully will turn out that way.
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I dont get why comm didnt get a seed IF they are using the " didn't perform well enough in 2012 competitions to receive a seed." ??? and com'on DeMusliM may not have had amazing results, but most people know hes sooo good! Amazing on the ladder, an amazing player in and outside the game in terms of mindset and he played so well in the qualifiers! 
Such a shame
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