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Rossing
Denmark4 Posts
Not letting the chinese players in seems like a vendetta of some sort to me, honestly. also, lets compare kitty and demu a bit here Demuslim: 2nd Samsung European Encounter €800 2nd 2012 World Championship Series: United Kingdom Nationals $3,000 + Paid (Demuslim really didn't perform well in wcs nono) Hellokitty AGL-August Invitational 4th place which was low enough that he didn't even win any money for it (500$ tourney) So really, come on man should've invited demu | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Blizzard, MLG, and ESL jointly analyzed 2012 global performance results to determine invites for the WCS Season 1 Premier League in America and Europe. In the end, DeMusliM didn't perform well enough in 2012 competitions to receive a seed. He's been competing fantastically well on ladder and we hope to see him compete up through Challenger level and perhaps get to Premier League through that route. LOL. So HelloKitty Maker Fenix Vibe Illusion Major State Minigun Capoch all did better than DeMuslim ? >.< Fkn Blizzard, they balls up and just make stupid excuses, and the people interviewing them have the shittest questions for them! I love the way they are palming it all off and thinking that it still is going "well" it's just stupid. I could of organized this better >.< | ||
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Dracid
United States280 Posts
On April 25 2013 16:48 JustPassingBy wrote: Hm, the information in the interview somehow contradicts with the statement of Edison, where Koreans who signed up later were admitted before the Chinese players who signed up earlier... can we have some kind of update on that...? Doesn't contradict anything. The Koreans were seeded into the qualifiers because they have EG backing, the Chinese players were given nothing because who gives a fuck about Chinese players? | ||
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
On April 25 2013 16:47 Rossing wrote: I don't think MLG deserved the wcs contract, should've given it to NASL Not letting the chinese players in seems like a vendetta of some sort to me, honestly. also, lets compare kitty and demu a bit here Demuslim: 2nd Samsung European Encounter €800 2nd 2012 World Championship Series: United Kingdom Nationals $3,000 + Paid (Demuslim really didn't perform well in wcs nono) Hellokitty AGL-August Invitational 4th place which was low enough that he didn't even win any money for it (500$ tourney) So really, come on man should've invited demu The point is, he wasnt being compared with the American, but with the foreign invites, who all have outperformed him in 2012. | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On April 25 2013 16:47 Rossing wrote: also, lets compare kitty and demu a bit here Demuslim: 2nd Samsung European Encounter €800 2nd 2012 World Championship Series: United Kingdom Nationals $3,000 + Paid (Demuslim really didn't perform well in wcs nono) Hellokitty AGL-August Invitational 4th place which was low enough that he didn't even win any money for it (500$ tourney) So really, come on man Demuslim: Not a citizen of the Americas, so competes for one of eight spots reserved for "outsiders", including some top Koreans. Hellokitty: American, so competes for one of sixteen spots reserved for citizens of the Americas. Why Hellokitty got in and Demuslim didn't is perfectly understandable given that they announced this 16 / 8 split between locals and outsiders in advance. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On April 25 2013 16:56 Rannasha wrote: Demuslim: Not a citizen of the Americas, so competes for one of eight spots reserved for "outsiders", including some top Koreans. Hellokitty: American, so competes for one of sixteen spots reserved for citizens of the Americas. Why Hellokitty got in and Demuslim didn't is perfectly understandable given that they announced this 16 / 8 split between locals and outsiders in advance. yea i think a lot of people are forgetting that demuslim wasn't competing for an american only spot. If they start making exceptions with people belonging to whatever region it would be a big mess. | ||
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budar
175 Posts
That is also understandable to an extent, because there really is nothing that can be done now to amend the mess that happened. The players that qualified sort of deserve their spots because they won a lot of games and stuff. Some people were potentially "cheated out" of a real chance (probably very very few people, maybe Comm + 2-3 people) due to not being able to register, being eliminated by a hacker or a later DQ-d player, but nothing really can be done about that at this time. So, we really shouldn't expect more than an apology. If they're doing another qualifier for code A, then the real damage that was done is not that huge... | ||
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Asfer
Colombia12 Posts
On April 25 2013 15:52 namste wrote: Don't go talking for everyone. At least I didn't sign my name in the demands list. You should say "some of us demand". Fair enough, but please don't take my post literally. I just took some liberties to illustrate how "some of us" can be unfair when we don't take the time to see the issues from another's perspective. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On April 25 2013 09:52 mprs wrote: I think it's clear that after this year, they intend to move more of the WCS offline over time. Hopefully earlier! #ESLMAKEITHAPPEN!!! :D | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
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Dracid
United States280 Posts
On April 25 2013 16:56 Rannasha wrote: Demuslim: Not a citizen of the Americas, so competes for one of eight spots reserved for "outsiders", including some top Koreans. Hellokitty: American, so competes for one of sixteen spots reserved for citizens of the Americas. Why Hellokitty got in and Demuslim didn't is perfectly understandable given that they announced this 16 / 8 split between locals and outsiders in advance. Comm: 1st WCS China 2012 $6000 13th-16th WCS Asia 2012 $800 PiG: 1st WCS Australia 2012 $6000 5th-6th WCS Oceania 2012 $600 Why didn't either of these two get seeds over Hellokitty? WCS KR requires you to be there in person (on top of being hilariously more difficult than any other region), and latency means WCS EU is out of the question. That leaves WCS America for the SEA/China regions, and yet they only get two "outsider" seeds to Sen and Moonglade. How do you really justify seeding players like Maker, Capoch, theognis, State, etc. who have very few accomplishments in 2012 over WCS national winners? That the national winners don't even get a seed into the qualifiers is just embarrassing. | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
generic answers and no follow up questions when MLG/blizzard gave unsatisfying answers. at least in demuslim and comm's case asking further for clarification would be really helpfull. now we have more statements without content. you really let them get away with such a sentence? When it was revealed that Comm had gone on to play using another player's account, which is a rules violation, he was disqualified. also i'd like to know who anserwered which question or at least who was answering for both companys. edit: they're bending the truth quite a lot: ...now have the opportunity to compete in the Open Qualifier for Challenger League... it's a qualifier for the invite only qualifier. the statement as it stands is just wrong. | ||
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Khai
Australia553 Posts
Anyway given this is the first time I think we should all move on and forgive MLG but they better not fuck up again. | ||
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RubiksCube
Germany259 Posts
Yes the qualifier was terribad, but there's no need to beat a dead horse now. People have the chance to still qualify and now restrictions are in place (masters / grandmasters only). Now the only thing that needs to be done is make the "Open" qualifier really an open qualifier and not restricting it to 512 players | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
Sun dance, go fuck yourself and your enormous ego and i hope this comes back to rape yourself in the ass one day User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 25 2013 16:19 Vorenius wrote: At this point I don't think anyone believes that the rules weren't upheld, but that's not the issue. The piss poor rules are the issue. Random gold/plat league guys getting a spot in arguably the most important qualifier in SC2 so far, while high profile chinese pro's were excluded, is inexcusable. Having 512 spots for an open WCS America qualifier, even though the EU counterpart had thousands of registrated players, is inexcusable. MLG or Blizzard hasn't even in the slightest acknowledged any of these issues. They've been busy justifying their actions by saying "see, the rules were upheld". Well, guess what? The rules are the fucking problem in the first place! You only read my last comment without looking at the conversation history didn't you..? | ||
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
I know the argument of the other side, wanting to "see only the best". Fine. I grew up with soccer and you normally don't just go and root for the best... you have a team you like for geografical reasons or values or whatever and stick with it through thick and thin. I hope they make some adjustments to the current system. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On April 25 2013 17:49 jaydee81 wrote: I know a lot of people feel very different about this, but I am really put off by the amount of Koreans and it will make me less likely to follow WCS. I know the argument of the other side, wanting to "see only the best". Fine. I grew up with soccer and you normally don't just go and root for the best... you have a team you like for geografical reasons or values or whatever and stick with it through thick and thin. I hope they make some adjustments to the current system. So am I to an extend, but let's face it. As Europeans we aren't part of the target audience anyways, so it doesn't really matter, the games will be broad-casted like middle of the night in our time. | ||
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