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WCS America Qualifier so far

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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 08:45:41
April 21 2013 08:38 GMT
#1
1) Refusing to allow any community broadcasters to show any of the other games meaning matches such as NrGquasAr knocking JD down to the losers bracket will be reserved for their cast by replays broadcasts. Along with all the games for qualfiication from the Winners Bracket.

2) Allowing in hackers and low tier NA players instead of top players from China, including people such as the WCS China champion despite confirming to the players they will be in. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408776

3) Taking 5 hours to disqualify Quantic HyuN as he is ineligible due to his participation in WCS KR Code S this season but only doing so after he has knocked out 4 people.

4) Banning people from channels who asked why the Chinese players were not entered in to the bracket.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crcp0/chinese_players_left_out_of_wcs_america_qualifier/c9j9xqg

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=34#673

5) Not updating the bracket on their site, leaving it to liquipedia to pick up the slack.

http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/tournament/wcs-america-season-1-qualifyin/bracket

Worth noting that while the ESL bracket was also a PITA compared to say, Challonge or Binary Beast it didn't force people to name themselves twice (Rootcaliber = Tubbythefat etc), was updated and had collapsible sections as opposed to having later stages off screen.

It's also worth noting http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm/ doesn't even exist

6) The decision to cap the bracket size at 512.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
April 21 2013 08:47 GMT
#2
Pretty much. That is the problem when Blizzard effectively kills all competition, it removes any pressure from organizers to actually do a decent job.

I find it hilarious how everyone were pitchforking ESL. So far they have done a better job than MLG that's for sure
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 09:49:37
April 21 2013 08:50 GMT
#3
This doesnt sound good, especially points 2, 3, and 4. Have they realesed a statement regarding those accusation? Or You are just gathering the mob?

PS. I felt like i am more informed on EU qualifications to WCS, like everything was more clear. But that might be just a biased feeling.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 08:53:35
April 21 2013 08:52 GMT
#4
On April 21 2013 17:47 Grovbolle wrote:
Pretty much. That is the problem when Blizzard effectively kills all competition, it removes any pressure from organizers to actually do a decent job.

I find it hilarious how everyone were pitchforking ESL. So far they have done a better job than MLG that's for sure

I don't understand this. Howcome EU was allowed to have multiple streams but not NA? Aren't they both in WCS so shouldn't the rules be applied equally?

EDIT: and yes, MLG dropped the ball on the qualifiers, so much shit that wen't wrong.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 08:56:15
April 21 2013 08:52 GMT
#5
On April 21 2013 17:50 Silvanel wrote:
This doesnt sound good, especially points 2, 3, and 4. Have they realesed a statemnt regarding those accusation? Or You are just gathering the mob?



but in all seriousness they shouldnt have capped the tourney, hopefully theyll put a league restriction or something next time
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 08:54:33
April 21 2013 08:53 GMT
#6
On April 21 2013 17:52 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:47 Grovbolle wrote:
Pretty much. That is the problem when Blizzard effectively kills all competition, it removes any pressure from organizers to actually do a decent job.

I find it hilarious how everyone were pitchforking ESL. So far they have done a better job than MLG that's for sure

I don't understand this. Howcome EU was allowed to have multiple streams but not NA? Aren't they both in WCS so shouldn't the rules be applied equally?

It is the MLG policy against any community streams. It has always been like that. Though as it is not entirely their event, they could make an exception here.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 21 2013 08:54 GMT
#7
On April 21 2013 17:53 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:52 Integra wrote:
On April 21 2013 17:47 Grovbolle wrote:
Pretty much. That is the problem when Blizzard effectively kills all competition, it removes any pressure from organizers to actually do a decent job.

I find it hilarious how everyone were pitchforking ESL. So far they have done a better job than MLG that's for sure

I don't understand this. Howcome EU was allowed to have multiple streams but not NA? Aren't they both in WCS so shouldn't the rules be applied equally?

It is the MLG policy against any community streams. It has always been like that. Though as it is not entirely their event, they could make an exception here.

SO even that was MLG's fault? Great...
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Jknighty
Profile Joined July 2011
159 Posts
April 21 2013 08:55 GMT
#8
7) Only having one bracket so that 2 of the LB sections are completely stacked, with JD, Center, Zenio, Revival and in one and Sage, JYP and Alive in another. Meanwhile the other 2 sections have Heart and Apocalypse in one and Motok, Hwangsin and Miya in another.

I've ignored all the notable foreigners but it doesn't take a genius to work out that QXC, Demuslim and friends are going to have a much tougher time in JD and co's section than incontrol in Apocalypse's or nony in Miya's.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
April 21 2013 08:56 GMT
#9
rofl, they let HyuN play and actualyl eliminate people?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
April 21 2013 08:57 GMT
#10
i heard the aussies got dicked aswell. i went to bed as soon as they said they wernt in the brackets but in the chat pig was saying that he, iaguz, fenner, rossi, megafonzie and petraeus wernt in the brackets and it seemed like they were missing from the brackets after checking in and doing everything correctly aswell.

like i said i could be wrong and it might been resolved for them but it looks pretty fucked
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 21 2013 08:58 GMT
#11
On April 21 2013 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
rofl, they let HyuN play and actualyl eliminate people?

Yeap they did....
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 21 2013 09:00 GMT
#12
Wow, it's just a mess.

2, 3 4 and 5 are all pretty bad.

1 and 6 are a shame, but they might not fix them =S
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 09:00 GMT
#13
What a colossal failure...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
April 21 2013 09:07 GMT
#14
MLG and Blizzard really need to fix this trainwreck of a qualifier or they'll be losing a lot. Especially since they ticked off people already for shooing off NASL for actually HELPING THEM OUT.

This is absolutely stupid.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 09:08 GMT
#15
On April 21 2013 18:07 KanoCoke wrote:
MLG and Blizzard really need to fix this trainwreck of a qualifier or they'll be losing a lot. Especially since they ticked off people already for shooing off NASL for actually HELPING THEM OUT.

This is absolutely stupid.


Imagine if they had let NASL run the online qualifiers, I bet you none of these issues would have happened. We might've had some audio problems here and there () but that's about it. ~_~

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 09:10:48
April 21 2013 09:10 GMT
#16
MLG should not be used anymore for WCS, they obviously can't handle it and screwed a lot of people over.

Perhaps let ESL do it, so the rules of EU and NA are at least the same.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 21 2013 09:10 GMT
#17
Blizzard should've just commissioned NASL to do it, they even failed hard with the invitees.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 09:16:05
April 21 2013 09:15 GMT
#18
Honestly, I don't think that MLG screwed up more than ESL did. The jist though is that they only have one stream and one qualifier, which makes their screwup a lot more gravere compared to what happened with the ESL.

Players being screwed during check-in?
ESL: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the other three Code S qualifiers!
MLG: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the Code A qualifier!

Stream boring (boring game, too much downtime)?
ESL: Ya, sorry, please change to one of the other streams in the meantime.
MLG: Ya, sorry, but you are stuck with us.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
April 21 2013 09:15 GMT
#19
Why are people surprised? I mean, it´s what Hyun does, really, eliminating people online. It´s like his natural habitat.
Hellboy.100
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia135 Posts
April 21 2013 09:16 GMT
#20
I don't even understand how are people organizing this tournament even doing such silly and illogical mistakes? PhysicsLee had topics on reddit aswell as TL, aswell as his team manager defending him and asking people for more evidence first. I'm pretty sure he isn't even the only hacker on the bracket since there's so many on NA lately...it must suck for people to get eliminated in such a way instead of going out with glory by losing to a top notch korean.
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