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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 12:32:12
April 21 2013 12:26 GMT
#81
to sum it up: what a mess.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
April 21 2013 12:32 GMT
#82
There have been quite a few mishaps in the NA qualifier. Some of it being due to confusing and new rules, other just human error I guess. I feel that there should be atleast one open (not capped) qualifier, EVERYONE even if they are bronze should have atleast one opportuinity to participate in my opinion.

Wish they had more streams so if for instance I dont want to watch a zvz, I could go to the other stream and watch another matchup or game.

One BIG positive I will give to MLG is that they had very little downtime during games. Having 2 pc`s is actually a very smart idea, creds to whoever made that happen. The ability to jump fast between games really help them when they have only one stream. I did also like their casters as well, They have gotten a bit of flak in the different threads, but I atleast enjoyed their cast, creds to you Axlav and Axeltoss
FunkQue
Profile Joined October 2010
United States165 Posts
April 21 2013 12:33 GMT
#83
On April 21 2013 21:11 Zarahtra wrote:
I haven't really paid to much attention to... the politics of WCS, but is MLG paying Blizzard to be the only broadcaster for WCS NA? If so, that hardly pulls SC2 forward, especially when you notice just what is missing when TB jumps into the cast and kicks ass like no tomorrow. Makes you wonder how much Bitterdam would've owned it up.


Do you really think MLG is paying Blizz? It's the other way around.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 21 2013 12:36 GMT
#84
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 21 2013 12:36 GMT
#85
On April 21 2013 21:33 FunkQue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 21:11 Zarahtra wrote:
I haven't really paid to much attention to... the politics of WCS, but is MLG paying Blizzard to be the only broadcaster for WCS NA? If so, that hardly pulls SC2 forward, especially when you notice just what is missing when TB jumps into the cast and kicks ass like no tomorrow. Makes you wonder how much Bitterdam would've owned it up.


Do you really think MLG is paying Blizz? It's the other way around.

Well the contract must have atleast some "we're the only ones that can broadcast from WCS NA"(and are enforcing it), which is what I was pointing at, which is aweful. Also I believe MLG wasn't even going to broadcast the qualifiers, didn't axltoss say that early on in the broadcast, that it was quickly hurried together? :/
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 12:49:32
April 21 2013 12:47 GMT
#86
Hyun so imba, he eliminates people from brackets he's not even allowed in.

Next: Hyun becomes the USA president before they realize he's not even born there.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
joopajoo
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland67 Posts
April 21 2013 12:47 GMT
#87
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Well another thing is that Hyun himself actually registered for it, checked in and knowingly took a spot from other players and knocked out others. Shouldn't this kinda behavior be punished?
JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
April 21 2013 12:53 GMT
#88
And I thought EU was badly run*, but WCS.NA seems so much worse off, especially with the issue of Chinese (and aussie?) players not getting to participate because of a ridiculous 512 player cap. I don't know who has the finger on the trigger at MLG regarding those choices, but it seems very stupid to limit the tournament like.

Their stream was run quite smoothly and overall I think Axslav and Axeltoss does a decent job, but I would've liked the option of choosing another stream to see other games!

* In retrospect it wasn't that bad actually, considering how short of a notice ESL probably had on the entire thing.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 12:55:04
April 21 2013 12:54 GMT
#89
On April 21 2013 21:47 joopajoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Well another thing is that Hyun himself actually registered for it, checked in and knowingly took a spot from other players and knocked out others. Shouldn't this kinda behavior be punished?


If the sign up/check in proccess worked as it should, verifying who can/can't play HyuN would have never been able to play those games in the first place.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
April 21 2013 13:18 GMT
#90
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Yehaa but cannot Hyun must be blammed also ? He kenw the rules isn't he M
joopajoo
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland67 Posts
April 21 2013 13:19 GMT
#91
On April 21 2013 21:54 Godwrath wrote:
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On April 21 2013 21:47 joopajoo wrote:
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Well another thing is that Hyun himself actually registered for it, checked in and knowingly took a spot from other players and knocked out others. Shouldn't this kinda behavior be punished?


If the sign up/check in proccess worked as it should, verifying who can/can't play HyuN would have never been able to play those games in the first place.


What is the way it "should" work? It's not hard to trick the system.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
April 21 2013 13:24 GMT
#92
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


they are sooooo lucky they figured it out before he eliminated someone with a good chance of qualifying

it would have been such a PR disaster if he had eliminated someone like demuslim or whatever
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 21 2013 13:24 GMT
#93
On April 21 2013 22:18 vinsang1000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Yehaa but cannot Hyun must be blammed also ? He kenw the rules isn't he M


I think there is a real chance that Hyun could be punished somewhat. Then again the fault is with both parties.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#94
On April 21 2013 22:24 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


they are sooooo lucky they figured it out before he eliminated someone with a good chance of qualifying

it would have been such a PR disaster if he had eliminated someone like demuslim or whatever

The lives saved by DQing HyuN include JYP, aLive, our hero Moosegills, and possibly quasAr as well. haha
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
April 21 2013 13:27 GMT
#95
On April 21 2013 22:24 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 22:18 vinsang1000 wrote:
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Yehaa but cannot Hyun must be blammed also ? He kenw the rules isn't he M


I think there is a real chance that Hyun could be punished somewhat. Then again the fault is with both parties.


iono, I blame a tournament not knowing its OWN RULES a bit more than the player
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 21 2013 13:31 GMT
#96
On April 21 2013 22:27 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 22:24 bittman wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:18 vinsang1000 wrote:
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


Yehaa but cannot Hyun must be blammed also ? He kenw the rules isn't he M


I think there is a real chance that Hyun could be punished somewhat. Then again the fault is with both parties.


iono, I blame a tournament not knowing its OWN RULES a bit more than the player


Agree to a point. If there's anything that's somewhat contractual between players and the tournament then there's something.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 21 2013 13:32 GMT
#97
On April 21 2013 21:36 Fionn wrote:
Some of them aren't really MLG's fault, but letting Hyun play is just stupid.


all of those points made were under mlg's control, things they could have done better. so i think that makes it their fault.

and i dont even think theyve said anything about all the fuck ups at all
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
April 21 2013 13:34 GMT
#98
On April 21 2013 20:55 Lysanias wrote:
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On April 21 2013 20:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 21 2013 20:50 Lysanias wrote:
On April 21 2013 20:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 21 2013 20:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 21 2013 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
rofl, they let HyuN play and actualyl eliminate people?

the best part is he was listed as DQed. then he resurrected himself and knocked out the next person in the bracket and got DQed again


Truly HyuNstoppable ;o


Says alot about Hyun as a person to


Yeah because I'm sure he knew the rules of WCS very well... just like every other player... Oh wait...

Blizzard botched this in every possible way with regards to handling information about their event.


A player in a major team that played in code S, that got 0 instructions.
He got disqualified then just played his next match, yeah nothing fishy going on there.

Offcourse this is true that MLG/Blizzard admins made a big mistake, to let him play for 5 hours, then DQ him and needing to DQ him again, but i doubt he went in there all ignorant.

The first DQ wasn't a DQ it was a walk over loss for being LATE not because he played in Code S, and he kept playing because there is a fucking losers bracket to play in -.- not like he just said fuck it and kept playing people after being eliminated

Don't you dare go blaming HyuN for Blizzard/MLG's Fuck ups!
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Dubag
Profile Joined March 2006
Australia82 Posts
April 21 2013 13:37 GMT
#99
On April 21 2013 21:47 joopajoo wrote:
Well another thing is that Hyun himself actually registered for it, checked in and knowingly took a spot from other players and knocked out others. Shouldn't this kinda behavior be punished?


Bit harsh. He may not have even known considering an obvious lack of information being sent out to players and teams. You can only assume the same in regards to tournament organisers like MLG and ESL. The fact that Hyun is playing in Code S, yet still managed to play in NA qualifiers to me points to a lack of communication between the regions/Blizzard.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 13:38:23
April 21 2013 13:38 GMT
#100
What a joke this WCS has been so far.
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