EPTOn April 21 2013 23:23 Subspace wrote:
Well, what did you expect? It is after all an american company...
Well, what did you expect? It is after all an american company...
As opposed to NASL and IPL?
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
As opposed to NASL and IPL? | ||
Waxangel
United States33715 Posts
yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that | ||
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govie
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On April 21 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote: EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that I think Wax the point, as was made in this thread, is though ESL were far from perfect they gave the players 4 chances which mitigated most of the criticism from the early sign up times on Qualifier #2. If you're only going to run one qualifier you're leaving yourself no room to maneuver. It's either flawless or a fuck up. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On April 21 2013 17:38 MVTaylor wrote: 1) Refusing to allow any community broadcasters to show any of the other games meaning matches such as NrGquasAr knocking JD down to the losers bracket will be reserved for their cast by replays broadcasts. Along with all the games for qualfiication from the Winners Bracket. 2) Allowing in hackers and low tier NA players instead of top players from China, including people such as the WCS China champion despite confirming to the players they will be in. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408776 3) Taking 5 hours to disqualify Quantic HyuN as he is ineligible due to his participation in WCS KR Code S this season but only doing so after he has knocked out 4 people. 4) Banning people from channels who asked why the Chinese players were not entered in to the bracket. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crcp0/chinese_players_left_out_of_wcs_america_qualifier/c9j9xqg http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680¤tpage=34#673 5) Not updating the bracket on their site, leaving it to liquipedia to pick up the slack. http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/tournament/wcs-america-season-1-qualifyin/bracket Worth noting that while the ESL bracket was also a PITA compared to say, Challonge or Binary Beast it didn't force people to name themselves twice (Rootcaliber = Tubbythefat etc), was updated and had collapsible sections as opposed to having later stages off screen. It's also worth noting http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm/ doesn't even exist 6) The decision to cap the bracket size at 512. 1. Is not as as big of a deal, I enjoyed yesterday's cast, I only really watch WR5-Wr6 games. I would have watched MLG coverage anyway. It is really about control of the product they have so you can't really fault them for that. But I feel like NASL could have casted, or the IPL staff they bought. (also why the heck has there been nothing for NASL?) 2. That has to be a check in thing, if you don't check in when the bracket caps you don';t get to play. Besides no offense to any one but I want to see NA players win a NA league. Players from China would just take the money back to China and not help grow NA scene. NA scene needs money to justify players trying. 3.That was super odd. First Hyun or his team manager should have known he shouldn't be playing in this, and next MLG admins gotta become more aware of SC II globally. WCS is a global event and it is good to know what everyone is doing and which players are in which league. Not hard to do. 4.Didn't see that happen much, so think your just complaining cause you got banned. 5.MLG bracket was terrible and always has been, Liquidpedia was fine. think your just complaining about anything. 6. It is fine if your doing double elim bracket that is a lot of games. And it appears like 7 koreans and one foreginer will get in. Opening up the bracket to bigger numbers doesn't matter the koreans are gonna get in. I Don't think you you realize how many games that is to play. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1115 Posts
Kind of getting beyond a joke, looking like atm DreamHack is going to be the only good tournament series this year | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
Blizzard should get his hands into this. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On April 21 2013 23:40 baldgye wrote: Every time I see a WSC thread I wonder; "how can it possibly be anymore of a cluster fuck?" ...and then I read the OP. Kind of getting beyond a joke, looking like atm DreamHack is going to be the only good tournament series this year I bet you that the WCS will match Dreamhack or any other major non-WCS tournament in viewers once we get further into the competition and the games really start to matter. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 21 2013 23:42 nihlon wrote: I bet you that the WCS will match Dreamhack or any other major non-WCS tournament in viewers once we get further into the competition and the games really start to matter. He didn't mention viewers... all he said was that DreamHack is going to be good, compared to WCS which has been pretty messy overall, more so in the NA side of things. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1115 Posts
On April 21 2013 23:42 nihlon wrote: I bet you that the WCS will match Dreamhack or any other major non-WCS tournament in viewers once we get further into the competition and the games really start to matter. perhaps, only time will tell I guess, though I know I'm more interested in Dream Hack now than I was before WSC actually started. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
Now we either dont get to see the games, or they are casted from replays, both options stink. note: Axslav and Axeltoss did a great job, and casted for a long time. I would just like blizzard to contract out a second set of casters so we can get the whole day covered. I mean we missed all the exciting matches in the late rounds. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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baldgye
United Kingdom1115 Posts
On April 21 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote: EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that only thing I will say about the EU version was that at least there was a whole bunch of streams so you could kinda pick and choose as you like... and then Rotty's 24hr marathon random cast was pretty epic. The NA one is just dull, its one game (out of hundreds) and if you don't like it, too bad and if there are better players or players you follow, too bad. Pretty lame | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
On April 22 2013 00:01 Luepert wrote: Maybe they should give NASL a chance... NASL/Dreamhack is actually on the fast track to being the only decent League right now outside of Korea. Are they holding a League this year or did WCS kill them off completely. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 22 2013 00:04 Esoterikk wrote: NASL is actually on the fast track to being the only decent League right now outside of Korea. Are they holding a League this year or did WCS kill them off completely. DreamHack? But yeah, we don't know anything for sure. It is pretty likely that WCS will cut into their viewercount/hype. :/ | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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cekkmt
United States352 Posts
On April 22 2013 00:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote: DreamHack? But yeah, we don't know anything for sure. It is pretty likely that WCS will cut into their viewercount/hype. :/ Not if mlg continues to make questionable decisions. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On April 21 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote: EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that There was a ton of backlash for it, what's your point? ESL made up for it by having multiple qualifiers, even if their incompetence made you miss one you still had more chances. | ||
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