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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 14:28 GMT
#121
On April 21 2013 23:23 Subspace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 23:10 Like a Boss wrote:
Out of all the broadcasters out there, i feel that MLG is the least passionate about the game and most greedy.


Well, what did you expect? It is after all an american company...


As opposed to NASL and IPL?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33703 Posts
April 21 2013 14:29 GMT
#122
EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people

yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 14:29 GMT
#123
8) letting MLG show us the bracket for 15 minutes without casting any games........ this was a frustrating moment it ruined my viewerexperience so much.. darn
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
April 21 2013 14:31 GMT
#124
On April 21 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people

yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that


I think Wax the point, as was made in this thread, is though ESL were far from perfect they gave the players 4 chances which mitigated most of the criticism from the early sign up times on Qualifier #2. If you're only going to run one qualifier you're leaving yourself no room to maneuver. It's either flawless or a fuck up.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 21 2013 14:37 GMT
#125
On April 21 2013 17:38 MVTaylor wrote:
1) Refusing to allow any community broadcasters to show any of the other games meaning matches such as NrGquasAr knocking JD down to the losers bracket will be reserved for their cast by replays broadcasts. Along with all the games for qualfiication from the Winners Bracket.

2) Allowing in hackers and low tier NA players instead of top players from China, including people such as the WCS China champion despite confirming to the players they will be in. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408776

3) Taking 5 hours to disqualify Quantic HyuN as he is ineligible due to his participation in WCS KR Code S this season but only doing so after he has knocked out 4 people.

4) Banning people from channels who asked why the Chinese players were not entered in to the bracket.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crcp0/chinese_players_left_out_of_wcs_america_qualifier/c9j9xqg

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408680&currentpage=34#673

5) Not updating the bracket on their site, leaving it to liquipedia to pick up the slack.

http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/tournament/wcs-america-season-1-qualifyin/bracket

Worth noting that while the ESL bracket was also a PITA compared to say, Challonge or Binary Beast it didn't force people to name themselves twice (Rootcaliber = Tubbythefat etc), was updated and had collapsible sections as opposed to having later stages off screen.

It's also worth noting http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm/ doesn't even exist

6) The decision to cap the bracket size at 512.





1. Is not as as big of a deal, I enjoyed yesterday's cast, I only really watch WR5-Wr6 games. I would have watched MLG coverage anyway. It is really about control of the product they have so you can't really fault them for that. But I feel like NASL could have casted, or the IPL staff they bought. (also why the heck has there been nothing for NASL?)

2. That has to be a check in thing, if you don't check in when the bracket caps you don';t get to play. Besides no offense to any one but I want to see NA players win a NA league. Players from China would just take the money back to China and not help grow NA scene. NA scene needs money to justify players trying.

3.That was super odd. First Hyun or his team manager should have known he shouldn't be playing in this, and next MLG admins gotta become more aware of SC II globally. WCS is a global event and it is good to know what everyone is doing and which players are in which league. Not hard to do.


4.Didn't see that happen much, so think your just complaining cause you got banned.

5.MLG bracket was terrible and always has been, Liquidpedia was fine. think your just complaining about anything.


6. It is fine if your doing double elim bracket that is a lot of games. And it appears like 7 koreans and one foreginer will get in. Opening up the bracket to bigger numbers doesn't matter the koreans are gonna get in. I Don't think you you realize how many games that is to play.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1111 Posts
April 21 2013 14:40 GMT
#126
Every time I see a WSC thread I wonder; "how can it possibly be anymore of a cluster fuck?" ...and then I read the OP.

Kind of getting beyond a joke, looking like atm DreamHack is going to be the only good tournament series this year
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 21 2013 14:41 GMT
#127
Wow, this is a complete no-mans land. What a mess.
Blizzard should get his hands into this.
Chicken gank op
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 21 2013 14:42 GMT
#128
On April 21 2013 23:40 baldgye wrote:
Every time I see a WSC thread I wonder; "how can it possibly be anymore of a cluster fuck?" ...and then I read the OP.

Kind of getting beyond a joke, looking like atm DreamHack is going to be the only good tournament series this year

I bet you that the WCS will match Dreamhack or any other major non-WCS tournament in viewers once we get further into the competition and the games really start to matter.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 14:44 GMT
#129
On April 21 2013 23:42 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 23:40 baldgye wrote:
Every time I see a WSC thread I wonder; "how can it possibly be anymore of a cluster fuck?" ...and then I read the OP.

Kind of getting beyond a joke, looking like atm DreamHack is going to be the only good tournament series this year

I bet you that the WCS will match Dreamhack or any other major non-WCS tournament in viewers once we get further into the competition and the games really start to matter.


He didn't mention viewers... all he said was that DreamHack is going to be good, compared to WCS which has been pretty messy overall, more so in the NA side of things.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1111 Posts
April 21 2013 14:44 GMT
#130
On April 21 2013 23:42 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 23:40 baldgye wrote:
Every time I see a WSC thread I wonder; "how can it possibly be anymore of a cluster fuck?" ...and then I read the OP.

Kind of getting beyond a joke, looking like atm DreamHack is going to be the only good tournament series this year

I bet you that the WCS will match Dreamhack or any other major non-WCS tournament in viewers once we get further into the competition and the games really start to matter.


perhaps, only time will tell I guess, though I know I'm more interested in Dream Hack now than I was before WSC actually started.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
April 21 2013 14:45 GMT
#131
can we add, ending the cast as we got towards the exciting games in the finals, and having no other set of casters allowed to finish out the night?

Now we either dont get to see the games, or they are casted from replays, both options stink. note: Axslav and Axeltoss did a great job, and casted for a long time. I would just like blizzard to contract out a second set of casters so we can get the whole day covered. I mean we missed all the exciting matches in the late rounds.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 21 2013 14:46 GMT
#132
These new WCS guys seem like they are on track to be fired faster than the last WCS guy(s)
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1111 Posts
April 21 2013 14:48 GMT
#133
On April 21 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people

yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that


only thing I will say about the EU version was that at least there was a whole bunch of streams so you could kinda pick and choose as you like... and then Rotty's 24hr marathon random cast was pretty epic. The NA one is just dull, its one game (out of hundreds) and if you don't like it, too bad and if there are better players or players you follow, too bad.

Pretty lame
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
April 21 2013 15:01 GMT
#134
Maybe they should give NASL a chance...
esports
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 15:09:24
April 21 2013 15:04 GMT
#135
On April 22 2013 00:01 Luepert wrote:
Maybe they should give NASL a chance...


NASL/Dreamhack is actually on the fast track to being the only decent League right now outside of Korea. Are they holding a League this year or did WCS kill them off completely.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 15:05 GMT
#136
On April 22 2013 00:04 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:01 Luepert wrote:
Maybe they should give NASL a chance...


NASL is actually on the fast track to being the only decent League right now outside of Korea. Are they holding a League this year or did WCS kill them off completely.


DreamHack?

But yeah, we don't know anything for sure. It is pretty likely that WCS will cut into their viewercount/hype. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 21 2013 15:09 GMT
#137
WCS was a dumb idea from the get-go.
starleague forever
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 21 2013 15:09 GMT
#138
So this is the thread where we are outraged by something that happened during the qualifiers? What are we feigning outrage at about while we wait for the next set of matches to be played? That hackers are allowed into the event? I wasn't aware their wore signs or named their account "I r da hackertron". Or that the entire 512 match bracket wasn't broadcast for us all to see? Or that the games were run at a poor time for Korean players, because we all know MLG controls the sun.
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cekkmt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
April 21 2013 15:10 GMT
#139
On April 22 2013 00:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:04 Esoterikk wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:01 Luepert wrote:
Maybe they should give NASL a chance...


NASL is actually on the fast track to being the only decent League right now outside of Korea. Are they holding a League this year or did WCS kill them off completely.


DreamHack?

But yeah, we don't know anything for sure. It is pretty likely that WCS will cut into their viewercount/hype. :/

Not if mlg continues to make questionable decisions.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 21 2013 15:11 GMT
#140
On April 21 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
EU randomly made their sign-in time for qualifier #2 40 minutes earlier without any prior warning and cut out a bunch of people

yet, that's the kind of mistake SC fans (who are good at feigning outrage) never have any lasting anger about unless Stephano is disqualified ors omething like that

There was a ton of backlash for it, what's your point?

ESL made up for it by having multiple qualifiers, even if their incompetence made you miss one you still had more chances.
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