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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 09:17 GMT
#21
On April 21 2013 18:15 JustPassingBy wrote:
Honestly, I don't think that MLG screwed up more than ESL did. The jist though is that they only have one stream and one qualifier, which makes their screwup a lot more gravere compared to what happened with the ESL.

Players being screwed during check-in?
ESL: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the other three Code S qualifiers!
MLG: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the Code A qualifier!

Stream boring (boring game, too much downtime)?
ESL: Ya, sorry, please change to one of the other streams in the meantime.
MLG: Ya, sorry, but you are stuck with us.


Don't forget ESL also allowed more people to participate...

On April 21 2013 18:15 Daswollvieh wrote:
Why are people surprised? I mean, it´s what Hyun does, really, eliminating people online. It´s like his natural habitat.


People are surprised that MLG allowed him to play at all, considering he had already taken part in WCS KR this season.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Ireniicas
Profile Joined April 2013
66 Posts
April 21 2013 09:19 GMT
#22
Extremely sad to see NA/SA Rest of the World Dreams snuffed out by poorly conceived tournament rules permitting players who live and work in Regions that already enjoy a WCS qualifier able to join weaker 'easier targets'.

Yes, hardcore Starcraft fans that are ever present on forums such as this will rejoice at the opportunity to see more top notch Koreans at convenient times. The casual, silent mass audience will just continue to be disconnected from the scene whilst promising amateurs find it increasingly hard to get noticed and receive the support they need to have that talent nurtured.

TL DR. WCS limiting global growth by snuffing out localised competition and story lines and channelling Starcraft ever deeper into a niche.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 21 2013 09:20 GMT
#23
On April 21 2013 18:10 Technique wrote:
MLG should not be used anymore for WCS, they obviously can't handle it and screwed a lot of people over.

Perhaps let ESL do it, so the rules of EU and NA are at least the same.


A co-op between ESL and NASL wouldn't be bad either. Both parties can help each other out, like NASL did before.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
April 21 2013 09:25 GMT
#24
Maybe it is just because MLG lack admins ... ?
http://twitch.tv/maggrig | @SC2ELVIS | http://www.facebook.com/sc2ELVIS
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
April 21 2013 09:26 GMT
#25
Thankfully I'm not a progamer. I can simply refuse to watch their content and wait until it's not so poorly handled.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 09:27:34
April 21 2013 09:27 GMT
#26
On April 21 2013 18:25 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Maybe it is just because MLG lack admins ... ?


I think they have quite a few, the problem is that, as some people have mentioned in the other threads, the admins either ignore these issues when they are reported or even ban people from channels for having pointed them out. :S
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 09:33:06
April 21 2013 09:32 GMT
#27
On April 21 2013 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
rofl, they let HyuN play and actualyl eliminate people?


Yes, HyuN made it to LBR5 before they realised.

This poor bastard must hate Quantic so much right now: http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/team/ivy

Given walkover against HyuN in Winners Bracket due to him turning up late. Being knocked out of WB by Quantic Center and then knocked out of the tournament in the Losers Bracket by the ineligible HyuN.
@followMVT
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
April 21 2013 09:38 GMT
#28
Wait, isn't this Blizzard's cup?

If so, how in God's name did they come to the conclusion that they should let MLG run this? roflmao

Been away a bit, probably missed something here
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4767 Posts
April 21 2013 09:58 GMT
#29
On April 21 2013 18:15 JustPassingBy wrote:
Honestly, I don't think that MLG screwed up more than ESL did. The jist though is that they only have one stream and one qualifier, which makes their screwup a lot more gravere compared to what happened with the ESL.

Players being screwed during check-in?
ESL: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the other three Code S qualifiers!
MLG: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the Code A qualifier!

Stream boring (boring game, too much downtime)?
ESL: Ya, sorry, please change to one of the other streams in the meantime.
MLG: Ya, sorry, but you are stuck with us.


Right now it seems to me ESL did much better job, You are not even touching biggest isuues.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
April 21 2013 10:03 GMT
#30
On April 21 2013 18:15 JustPassingBy wrote:
Honestly, I don't think that MLG screwed up more than ESL did. The jist though is that they only have one stream and one qualifier, which makes their screwup a lot more gravere compared to what happened with the ESL.

Players being screwed during check-in?
ESL: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the other three Code S qualifiers!
MLG: Ya, we're really sorry, please try again in the Code A qualifier!

Stream boring (boring game, too much downtime)?
ESL: Ya, sorry, please change to one of the other streams in the meantime.
MLG: Ya, sorry, but you are stuck with us.

Thing is, if you only do 1 bracket, you NEED to fucking know what you are doing since you have 0% chance of redemption.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 21 2013 10:06 GMT
#31
and we tought wcg was the worst lol.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
April 21 2013 10:09 GMT
#32
sundance really likes making records doesnt he, in both directions
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
April 21 2013 10:11 GMT
#33
I know that sometimes people exaggerate with the adjectives, but in this case i think that "shocking", "abysmal", "deplorable" and the like are quite fitting. Not regretting at all my decision to go to bed instead of staying up all night for this (EU region).
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Underkoffer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands53 Posts
April 21 2013 10:15 GMT
#34
To be honest I didn't expect it to go any better. It seems like mlg always seems to make some terrible decisions and gets away with it just fine (extended series, even after they're now splitting up the brackets in two parts in their latest tournaments, which i think is bad design as well because you can get 1 way harder bracket than the other). Also I don't like the casting of Axlav and Axeltoss and with no other alternatives I won't be watching WCS America unfortunately.
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
April 21 2013 10:19 GMT
#35
On April 21 2013 19:15 Underkoffer wrote:
To be honest I didn't expect it to go any better. It seems like mlg always seems to make some terrible decisions and gets away with it just fine (extended series, even after they're now splitting up the brackets in two parts in their latest tournaments, which i think is bad design as well because you can get 1 way harder bracket than the other). Also I don't like the casting of Axlav and Axeltoss and with no other alternatives I won't be watching WCS America unfortunately.

They brought TotalBiscuit in, which saved the cast.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 21 2013 10:19 GMT
#36
Foreigners have always been 1-2 step behind koreans when it comes to sc2 skill, and 3-4 steps when it comes down to run a tournament.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 21 2013 10:19 GMT
#37
MLG never ceases to impress . . . . . .
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
April 21 2013 10:24 GMT
#38
On April 21 2013 19:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Foreigners have always been 1-2 step behind koreans when it comes to sc2 skill, and 3-4 steps when it comes down to run a tournament.


Dreamhack or Iron Squid are awesome.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
April 21 2013 10:24 GMT
#39
MLG have actually handled this as bad as they could :S
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 21 2013 10:25 GMT
#40
Imagine being one of the players who got fucked out of being able to play in the qualifier, this is your only chance to get into WCS for season 1 and basically your only chance to make it to the global finals, I highly doubt anyone who doesn't play in all 3 seasons will make it to the global finals.

Yolk tournament, sc2 was better off as it was in 2012 even though there was a tournament every weekend.
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