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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
April 21 2013 10:33 GMT
#41
Wow i didnt realize this was such a fuckup.
Too bad.
MLG needs more people working on WCS.
More admins,more casters.(if they dont want to let anyone broadcast).
Greedy SOBs
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CamoPillbox
Profile Joined April 2012
Czech Republic229 Posts
April 21 2013 10:39 GMT
#42
Add Eu qualifier problems :
1. Np found
2. One hour before start check in time changed from 17:40 to 17:00 even if u register 16:59 it says check in 17:40 so many people cant attend
3. Promised 1024 people somehow changed to 512 you have like 40 sek to check in or u cant play.(i give my place to Runa cause was stupidity when top gm on europe cant attend cause (noobs check in faster ).
4. Bracket page dont show all qualifier until top 16.

There is many mistakes that need to be forced to repair next qualifier for sure something like top 200 GM on Eu have their place secured in all qualifiers , if not come place is free to others etc. + fixed players limit ,check in time .
Czech Terran(Hots) player
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
April 21 2013 10:40 GMT
#43
esl got slated for a lot of things....but organising qualifiers with over 1600 entrants is never going to be smooth sailing.
They did a really good job all things considering.

What let the few mistakes they made not be such a big deal is that they chose to have multiple qualifiers. therefore despite an early check-in meaning some missed out in qualifier 2....all the people who had a shot at qualifying got more chances.

the biggest mistake was definitely in only having a single qualifier.

also the greed of only allowing one cast annoys me. Is this MLG winter championships or whatever....? No, its WCS america. Its annoying that because MLG would pay more money to blizzard all the fans have to suffer because there's now only one stream when hundreds of games are being played simultaneously.

I really hope NASL are allowed to be much more heavily involved in future WCS NA events
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Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
April 21 2013 10:44 GMT
#44
They also said we weren't allowed to leak the bracket.

Yeah, like we're gonna stop 500+ people from leaking tournaments results rofl.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
April 21 2013 10:57 GMT
#45
On April 21 2013 19:39 CamoPillbox wrote:
Add Eu qualifier problems :
1. Np found
2. One hour before start check in time changed from 17:40 to 17:00 even if u register 16:59 it says check in 17:40 so many people cant attend
3. Promised 1024 people somehow changed to 512 you have like 40 sek to check in or u cant play.(i give my place to Runa cause was stupidity when top gm on europe cant attend cause (noobs check in faster ).
4. Bracket page dont show all qualifier until top 16.

There is many mistakes that need to be forced to repair next qualifier for sure something like top 200 GM on Eu have their place secured in all qualifiers , if not come place is free to others etc. + fixed players limit ,check in time .



EU never said they would have 1024 on monday and tuesday.. brackets got messy on the day 2000 guys played its normal but then it go fixed.. anyway players could see their matches
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 21 2013 11:09 GMT
#46
On April 21 2013 17:52 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:50 Silvanel wrote:
This doesnt sound good, especially points 2, 3, and 4. Have they realesed a statemnt regarding those accusation? Or You are just gathering the mob?



but in all seriousness they shouldnt have capped the tourney, hopefully theyll put a league restriction or something next time


You mean like GSL has been doing for ages? WTF man stop being reasonable!

Also yeah, WCS is sooooo horribly organized :/
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
McDrizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
United States131 Posts
April 21 2013 11:10 GMT
#47
6) Is probably because people didnt want to pay 20 dollars to get in. And no one wanted to give up their spots.
5) I didnt really see them being too slow lol. I just cant find Nony or Incontrol in the losers bracket which I find weird. (Unless they announced something while I went to sleep.)
3) That is actually pretty funny.
2) Hackers suck.
1) They should of allowed other community websites show some of their games. Maybe they will next time who knows.

It is all a growing experience next season will hopefully be better. Still you can feel like it was rushed. And the beginning down time was pretty upsetting which was 30 minutes after they went live for their first game.
wait what
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 21 2013 11:14 GMT
#48
Only one official stream is not enough for the guys around the world to see the players and matches they wanna see. But the rules are there and no other unofficial streams/observers are allowed, let alone to share the results or contents of the matches into any kind of websites/communities.
That's the rules inherited from former MLG and that's why it shall be only legal to broadcast only in wcs_amercia channel.
What a pity!
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Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
April 21 2013 11:16 GMT
#49
Blizzard chose the worst partners for WCS in NA and EU. I can't believe the fuckups that have been done in both regions the past week, heads would be rolling all over the place if I was in charge, WCS so far is a farce.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
April 21 2013 11:20 GMT
#50
Give me extended series in the losers bracket!!
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 21 2013 11:21 GMT
#51
On April 21 2013 20:16 Nihilnovi wrote:
Blizzard chose the worst partners for WCS in NA and EU. I can't believe the fuckups that have been done in both regions the past week, heads would be rolling all over the place if I was in charge, WCS so far is a farce.

Blizzard definetely chose the right partner for the online part of EU. There is no organization world wide that has so much experience in big online tournaments and none that could have done it better in such a small time. If it is the right partner for the offline part, we still have to see.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 21 2013 11:23 GMT
#52
I am rather suprised Quantic just let Hyun play ? What team are you if you either don't know the rules or you just ignore them.
And don't tell me no one knew Hyun was going to play either.
Unproffesional and utterly rude, not to mention against the rules and robbing other deserving people from a slot.

And yeah those other points are some serieus flaws we are having with the current qualifiers.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 21 2013 11:31 GMT
#53
On April 21 2013 20:23 Lysanias wrote:
I am rather suprised Quantic just let Hyun play ? What team are you if you either don't know the rules or you just ignore them.
And don't tell me no one knew Hyun was going to play either.
Unproffesional and utterly rude, not to mention against the rules and robbing other deserving people from a slot.

And yeah those other points are some serieus flaws we are having with the current qualifiers.


I was about to say the same thing. How did Quantic and MLG both let something like this slip past them.
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Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
April 21 2013 11:34 GMT
#54
MLG is probably responsible for the whole "koreans in other regions" mess and also failed pretty hard with a pay to play (yes, thats changed, I know) qualifier and a 512 player bracket.
Some of the mistakes they made that are pointed out in the OP realy fit in the picture.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 21 2013 11:37 GMT
#55
If I would have faced Hyun first thing I would have asked "Hey aren't you locked to KR region already?". Would have gotten myself slaughtered anyway. But he could have saved himself some time by asking an admin.
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
April 21 2013 11:40 GMT
#56
Just let dreamhack do everything everywhere...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
April 21 2013 11:44 GMT
#57
Some people were saying in the LR thread that MLG redo the bracket AFTER some people have played their first round matches already, is this true as well?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 11:51:11
April 21 2013 11:46 GMT
#58
On April 21 2013 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
rofl, they let HyuN play and actualyl eliminate people?

the best part is he was listed as DQed. then he resurrected himself and knocked out the next person in the bracket and got DQed again
On April 21 2013 20:10 McDrizzle wrote:
6) Is probably because people didnt want to pay 20 dollars to get in. And no one wanted to give up their spots.
5) I didnt really see them being too slow lol. I just cant find Nony or Incontrol in the losers bracket which I find weird. (Unless they announced something while I went to sleep.)
3) That is actually pretty funny.
2) Hackers suck.
1) They should of allowed other community websites show some of their games. Maybe they will next time who knows.

It is all a growing experience next season will hopefully be better. Still you can feel like it was rushed. And the beginning down time was pretty upsetting which was 30 minutes after they went live for their first game.

you're right i just searched for nony and couldnt find him now.
MLG's bracket has removed everyone that was in Losers' Round 8 after getting knocked out of the WB (the round Nony and Incontrol were in). Not sure what the story is there
they've completely hidden all those people after Losers' Round 6 so idk if that means they decided to reseed the bracket or something for people falling from the winners bracket (which would seem rather unethical) but the bracket is updated on liquipedia for how it was
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blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
April 21 2013 11:46 GMT
#59
GSL has just about never casted any of the qualifier matches. That MLG and ESL does so is and added bonus. They even have the Vods free, something GSL didn't do. In addition, the video quality for MLG/ESL is soooo much better than GSL and the videos loads a lot faster.

... what MLG/ESL is missing is Wolf and Khaldor, they are just awesome casters.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 11:48 GMT
#60
On April 21 2013 20:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
rofl, they let HyuN play and actualyl eliminate people?

the best part is he was listed as DQed. then he resurrected himself and knocked out the next person in the bracket and got DQed again


Truly HyuNstoppable ;o
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