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WCS FAQ update by Blizzard (4/10/2013) - Page 5

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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 10 2013 17:15 GMT
#81
The partners will not be adding additional prize money to the prize pool.

Flash dammit so I guess no one would ever want to play in Korea again, good or bad.
Now we can maybe get a good scene in EU and NA without SC2 Pros that can only have the world Pro because they stream.

But..

This distribution
Each Regional WCS League Season - $100,000
Each Global Season Finals - $150,000
WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon - $250,000


I don't get how the 32player prize pool could be 50k LESS than the 16player pool.
You have to finish top 5 in your region, so you already have made money from the Region and then you get a piece of an even BIGGER pool...

Hopefully Blizzard will fix this because this is a serious problem.
The curse is real
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
April 10 2013 17:18 GMT
#82
On April 11 2013 02:14 Killmouse wrote:
A detailed explanation of how the prize pool breaks down by placement will be published later this week. Please note: Blizzard has not announced this information to date.
"

good to know hopefully wont be as top heavy as rumors say

Didn't 2gd already show the prize money distribution? It was like $35,000 for 1st and a whopping $300 for Ro32. What a joke :___:
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 10 2013 17:19 GMT
#83
On April 11 2013 02:18 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:14 Killmouse wrote:
A detailed explanation of how the prize pool breaks down by placement will be published later this week. Please note: Blizzard has not announced this information to date.
"

good to know hopefully wont be as top heavy as rumors say

Didn't 2gd already show the prize money distribution? It was like $35,000 for 1st and a whopping $300 for Ro32. What a joke :___:

Yes ESFI had it but Incontrol said that it wasn't right but then again he also said that GSL would have a bigger prize pool so... yeah.
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Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
April 10 2013 17:20 GMT
#84
On April 11 2013 02:09 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:01 Sithril wrote:
GSL loosing a big chunk (38%) of its prize pool??? And not being able to add to it their OWN finances?! Is Blizzard trying to undermine Korea or what?

How did Gom and OGN agree to this?!! It would be awesome if someone interviewed them :-(

Nothing is stopping them from running other tournaments. Well, besides possibly their own finances...

But Blizzard made cut on regular GSL for having 5-6 a year to 3 a year now. Not to mention that there are no additional individual league beside GSL in Korea at moment. KeSPA players are fine with their regular salaries, but for eSF players, not many of them have steady income besides prize money from GSL.
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
April 10 2013 17:20 GMT
#85
On April 11 2013 02:18 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:14 Killmouse wrote:
A detailed explanation of how the prize pool breaks down by placement will be published later this week. Please note: Blizzard has not announced this information to date.
"

good to know hopefully wont be as top heavy as rumors say

Didn't 2gd already show the prize money distribution? It was like $35,000 for 1st and a whopping $300 for Ro32. What a joke :___:


That was a nonfinal "suggestion fom players" and already confirmed false from by Incontrol, who claims to have a pal in blizzard.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:24:36
April 10 2013 17:23 GMT
#86
On April 11 2013 02:20 Tanatos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:09 syllogism wrote:
On April 11 2013 02:01 Sithril wrote:
GSL loosing a big chunk (38%) of its prize pool??? And not being able to add to it their OWN finances?! Is Blizzard trying to undermine Korea or what?

How did Gom and OGN agree to this?!! It would be awesome if someone interviewed them :-(

Nothing is stopping them from running other tournaments. Well, besides possibly their own finances...

But Blizzard made cut on regular GSL for having 5-6 a year to 3 a year now. Not to mention that there are no additional individual league beside GSL in Korea at moment. KeSPA players are fine with their regular salaries, but for eSF players, not many of them have steady income besides prize money from GSL.


Well there is OSL and I'm sure we will either see a bigger push for the prize pool in GSTL or some small event.
I also bet they will try to do some Arena stuff like the have done in the past but having a time slot for that might be very hard.
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Lawliet
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
April 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#87
So basically no more MVP, nesstea, Mc, MMA, Hero, Taeja, etc in code s ?

Ooookay...... This is going to help the scene how?

It forces certain high caliber players into MLG, GSL/OSL, etc?

Well damn. I'm glad dreamhack isn't part of the circuit then. Those non WCS tourneys will have a better player pool.

This seems like a very, very dumb idea...
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:26:34
April 10 2013 17:26 GMT
#88
On April 11 2013 02:15 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
The partners will not be adding additional prize money to the prize pool.

Flash dammit so I guess no one would ever want to play in Korea again, good or bad.
Now we can maybe get a good scene in EU and NA without SC2 Pros that can only have the world Pro because they stream.

But..

This distribution
Show nested quote +
Each Regional WCS League Season - $100,000
Each Global Season Finals - $150,000
WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon - $250,000


I don't get how the 32player prize pool could be 50k LESS than the 16player pool.
You have to finish top 5 in your region, so you already have made money from the Region and then you get a piece of an even BIGGER pool...

Hopefully Blizzard will fix this because this is a serious problem.


This isn't a problem. If the prize distribution for Code S is the exact same as it was before for players placing 32nd-6th, then nothing has changed in terms of prestige. The top 6 will get to go to a finals event and take in even more guaranteed prize money.
dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:28:39
April 10 2013 17:27 GMT
#89
It seems something wrong in this FQA:

GSL S1 CodeA players will have chance to partipant in other region's Season1 Premier League (depends if he is invited or pass special qualifier match);

But for GSL S1 CodeS players, according to FQA, they can only participant Season 2 Qualifier which means can only participant S3 Premier League. I don't think that's the case.
Horiken
Profile Joined April 2013
Japan68 Posts
April 10 2013 17:28 GMT
#90
I have a question.
However, we are interested in ensuring players are not locked into a region due to confusion or lack of information.

Does this means that if Scarlett failes to qurify for WCS Korea challenger league tomorrow,she can play WCS NA season1 Premier League?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 17:33:13
April 10 2013 17:31 GMT
#91
On April 11 2013 02:26 Branman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:15 Tobblish wrote:
The partners will not be adding additional prize money to the prize pool.

Flash dammit so I guess no one would ever want to play in Korea again, good or bad.
Now we can maybe get a good scene in EU and NA without SC2 Pros that can only have the world Pro because they stream.

But..

This distribution
Each Regional WCS League Season - $100,000
Each Global Season Finals - $150,000
WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon - $250,000


I don't get how the 32player prize pool could be 50k LESS than the 16player pool.
You have to finish top 5 in your region, so you already have made money from the Region and then you get a piece of an even BIGGER pool...

Hopefully Blizzard will fix this because this is a serious problem.


This isn't a problem. If the prize distribution for Code S is the exact same as it was before for players placing 32nd-6th, then nothing has changed in terms of prestige. The top 6 will get to go to a finals event and take in even more guaranteed prize money.


Ye thats a big if however and I would really like to see a little cut to the ones in Code A or contender division...(fuck these Riot names)
You could even argue why the top 6/5 should receive anything from the regional pool else than a seed to the bigger pool.
Edit hell even they wont.
The curse is real
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
April 10 2013 17:32 GMT
#92
I went directly to Battlenet's thread and I found this,
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c1slt/my_views_on_wcsregional_based_leagues_region/
which are some opinions from Catz about the subject.

I won't say if I agree or disagree with his points, but they deserve to be read in my opinion: coming from a guy who believes foreigner players to be generally quite lazy and arrogant (there are a lot of exception, though... like in everything) Catz's post made me reflect.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 10 2013 17:33 GMT
#93

Can players change their World Championship Series region at any point during the year?

For the 2013 World Championship Series only, there will be an optional, one-time region change between Season 1 and Season 2. Players who would like to compete in another region in Season 2 will need to play in the Season 1 Qualifier and Challenger Division of the region they are looking to switch to. This will essentially mean that there will be players finishing their Season 1 commitments in their current region, while establishing their position in a new region.Any requests for exceptions must be submitted to Blizzard and will be considered.

This is so confusing.

So, basically.. for Season 1, a player can participate in the KR Code A qualifiers and participate in the "Code A" qualifiers (still Season 1) of a different region, assuming he decides to switch in Season 2? Huh. I bet a lot of people would've been happy to know that yesterday..
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
April 10 2013 17:33 GMT
#94
The big problem with WCS is the complete lack of clarity and accessible information. We have seen this over and over again. The tournament was announced when? April 3rd? It has been a week since these and the confusing is beyond belief. Axiom is doing a 180 as a cause of the confusion and Western Wolves has also stated lack of information. Why you would announce something on this scale and force teams to make tremendous decisions with the span of ~2 weeks while information is lacking and confusing; is beyond my belief.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 10 2013 17:34 GMT
#95
GOMtv represents ESF and therefore the players. So why are they allowing Blizzard to fuck the players in the ass? They better do something more with the GSTL or side events otherwise I could see a lot of ESF players retire.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
April 10 2013 17:34 GMT
#96
The big issue I have with the system is that it's the same for a country and two continents. You can't just have a Code A-esque qualifier in, say, Germany and expect everyone from the EU to show up. I feel like they need to split it up more.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 10 2013 17:37 GMT
#97
On April 11 2013 02:34 Ljas wrote:
The big issue I have with the system is that it's the same for a country and two continents. You can't just have a Code A-esque qualifier in, say, Germany and expect everyone from the EU to show up. I feel like they need to split it up more.


Ofc they can, it's a bit of travel yes in Europe for a lot of people but if you want to try out for the big league it shouldn't come on a silver platter.
But I in all honestly doubt it will ever be a offline qualifier for NA/EU region, it will be online the after that it will be offline.
The curse is real
dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
April 10 2013 17:38 GMT
#98
It also will be some issues for current WCS GSL S1. for players droped from S32 like MC (or Taeja Hyun possible), it's really no meaning to continue their Code A, it will open a door for throwing away matches. How GSL will handle this situation?
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
April 10 2013 17:39 GMT
#99
On April 11 2013 02:37 Tobblish wrote:
Ofc they can, it's a bit of travel yes in Europe for a lot of people but if you want to try out for the big league it shouldn't come on a silver platter.
But I in all honestly doubt it will ever be a offline qualifier for NA/EU region, it will be online the after that it will be offline.

Of course it shouldn't, but it's not a two hour drive from almost everywhere in the region like it is in Korea.

And they did say the ultimate goal is to move it entirely offline.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 10 2013 17:40 GMT
#100
On April 11 2013 02:39 Ljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 02:37 Tobblish wrote:
Ofc they can, it's a bit of travel yes in Europe for a lot of people but if you want to try out for the big league it shouldn't come on a silver platter.
But I in all honestly doubt it will ever be a offline qualifier for NA/EU region, it will be online the after that it will be offline.

Of course it shouldn't, but it's not a two hour drive from almost everywhere in the region like it is in Korea.

And they did say the ultimate goal is to move it entirely offline.


And they did say this is a 10year long commitment thing
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