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WCS FAQ update by Blizzard (4/10/2013) - Page 7

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dj_holgie
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany12 Posts
April 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#121
No borders. Open your mind.
Pain is temporary glory lasts forever
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 20:04:14
April 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#122
Is the prize pool the same across all regions or do partners put in additional prize money on top of the Blizzard prize money?

All of the regional leagues will have identical prize pools and point distribution. The partners will not be adding additional prize money to the prize pool.


Yay, GSL is officially ruined!

Sigh. Thanks Blizz.

I mean it was already kinda the case with a big chunk of "important" Koreans abandoning it for WCS NA/EU, but now it is just fact that there is no advantage to playing in KR at all (aside from not having to travel), the prestige is lost and no doubt more players will switch over the coming months or going into next year. The greatest leagues in SC2 (because it affects OSL as well) are no longer the sickest gathering of elite players, just a sect of players who were stubborn enough not to switch (or forced not to).

Why would GOM/OGN go along with this when it's only going to hurt them?? I mean, it's great for MLG/IEM, but...?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 10 2013 20:16 GMT
#123
So has it been cleared by now why the switching players must play in the first season qualifier of the region they are switching to? Doesn't that mean that players who failed in the GSL like MC get two chances are participating in the first season of WCS (in Korea and in Europe)?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 10 2013 20:20 GMT
#124
On April 11 2013 04:56 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is the prize pool the same across all regions or do partners put in additional prize money on top of the Blizzard prize money?

All of the regional leagues will have identical prize pools and point distribution. The partners will not be adding additional prize money to the prize pool.


Yay, GSL is officially ruined!

Sigh. Thanks Blizz.

I mean it was already kinda the case with a big chunk of "important" Koreans abandoning it for WCS NA/EU, but now it is just fact that there is no advantage to playing in KR at all (aside from not having to travel), the prestige is lost and no doubt more players will switch over the coming months or going into next year. The greatest leagues in SC2 (because it affects OSL as well) are no longer the sickest gathering of elite players, just a sect of players who were stubborn enough not to switch (or forced not to).

Why would GOM/OGN go along with this when it's only going to hurt them?? I mean, it's great for MLG/IEM, but...?

Possibly because there is no money in hosting SC2 tournaments in Korea?
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 20:24:03
April 10 2013 20:21 GMT
#125
So the qualifier in the KR-region is GSL, in the NA region it's MLG? What about EU? IEM?
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
ztranger
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden57 Posts
April 10 2013 20:34 GMT
#126
I love the sc2 official league, even though GSL have global in the name, it's so few foreigners in it. Maybe the future will have 3 regions stacked with koreans, but as it looks right now atleast there will be some space in the european zone for foreigners.
iNviSible.yunO
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany211 Posts
April 10 2013 20:37 GMT
#127
On April 11 2013 01:45 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 01:33 ch33psh33p wrote:
On April 11 2013 01:32 Marconos wrote:
On April 11 2013 01:29 Ben... wrote:
Blizzard did not think this through at all.

GSL is about to lose a huge number of very popular players, the NA scene is now irrelevant, and they made it so there is no reason to compete in GSL anymore. Why play in the toughest tournament when you can make just as much money in an easier one?


Look down the road not at your feet. It appears to weaken things some now but the goal is a stronger competition around the world. 2 - 3 year down the road EU or NA could be the powerhouse. That is the end goal, develop the markets.


What?

You don't build infrastructure around EU and NA by gutting the KR scene completely.


At the moment, big amounts of money are funneled from outside of Korea to SK in salarys, transportion costs and prizes. Right now, sponsor money that could be used to the benefit of players outside of SK is instead spent on players in SK. There is a pretty massive subsidization going on. The SC2 scene in SK needs to grow its own scene in order to support the current amount of SC2 pro gamers in Korea.

I don't mean to say that that is "unfair". But it is probably not a healthy system either. Most likely there will be a culling of heads of Korean SC2 progamers. I don't see anything wrong with that. At the moment there are many more Korean progamers than in EU/US put together.


This needs to be quoted, since it is true.
Yes, GSL is losing significance. But thats nothing bad, just something new. There is a lot of change going on atm and it scares people, as change always does. If the Korean scene is strong it will be able to carry itself.

Also, as soon as premier and challenger leagues are completely offline in EU and NA, there will be sort of a region lock.
I really hope this happens as soon as possible, because this will actually be a huge step forward for everyone, who wants the foreign scene to develop.
Every Korean who wants to move permanently will be welcome, of course. But just flying somewhere for a weekend and taking all the prize money away from "the locals" that could have been used to develop the "local" scene will not be possible anymore, at least as far as WCS-events are concerned.
Other than that, lets hope that the prize money distribution is as anti-top-heavy as possible.

I think Blizzard is moving into the right direction.

o.O''
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2144 Posts
April 10 2013 20:39 GMT
#128
Love it
Rccodes
Profile Joined March 2013
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 21:00:17
April 10 2013 20:42 GMT
#129
just like anything else the more information that gets released the more questions that are raised...
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
April 10 2013 20:54 GMT
#130
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I am getting depressed. Blizzard is not riot. Blizzard cannot be Riot. Blizzard relied on the Korean scene and was happy to use broodwars success as a way to launch sc2, and now they're trying to put everything under their umbrella. WCS will never be more prestigious than GSL or Proleague. I am worried that they are going to fucking ruin our scene with thier ineptitude, and they're going to steam-roll ahead with their plan no matter how retarded it is.


-sky is falling- ber.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
April 10 2013 20:55 GMT
#131
How exactly is the Korean scene destroyed? The way I understand it, GOM can still make an event that is non code S/A/B related and players can play in that. Somthing like the Super Tournament.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 10 2013 20:56 GMT
#132
I want to know why Gom/OGN/MLG/ESL aren't allowed (or why they will not) add prize money of their own. Code A meaning a semi-regular payday was a great thing, and it's very sad that it's gone.
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StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
April 10 2013 21:00 GMT
#133
People think that the Koreans that come to NA to take our money will be able to maintain their skill level. I wonder if this will be the case. I think its the team houses, discipline and the competition on the Korean ladder that make good players, not simply being Korean. Koreans coming over here will be giving up a lot of what made them great to do that. I predict a slow steady decline of these players that switch.
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 10 2013 21:00 GMT
#134
On April 11 2013 05:55 shockaslim wrote:
How exactly is the Korean scene destroyed? The way I understand it, GOM can still make an event that is non code S/A/B related and players can play in that. Somthing like the Super Tournament.


The question is not if they can but if they will.
evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
April 10 2013 21:01 GMT
#135
On April 11 2013 05:56 Zealously wrote:
I want to know why Gom/OGN/MLG/ESL aren't allowed (or why they will not) add prize money of their own. Code A meaning a semi-regular payday was a great thing, and it's very sad that it's gone.


I would presume that Blizzard was concerned that the different vendors would try and sweeten the pot to entice players to play in their region and thus undermine the principal behind the WCS. Unfortunately for Blizzard, the majority of the community seems to think that was already accomplished by region locking issues.
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Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
April 10 2013 21:09 GMT
#136
My immediate thought was that Blizzard wants to have their cake and eat it to. They want to have both situations available for the WCS NA/EU Korean stomp-

A) NA/EU Players actually get better, and people actually watch (best case scenario). Since they didn't officially say that offline competition will be extended in Season 2, they can postpone it to allow teams to have more time to find accomodations.

B) NA/EU Players get stomped, and viewership/foreigner participation plummets (Most likely, logical scenario). They can automatically make Season 2's offline a week long or even more, and force the "soft" region lock they're trying to have now into a "hard" region lock due to a two week long offline portion.

They're playing chicken, hoping that they'll end up correct in the long run. Even though literally every ounce of logic and viewership numbers go against them, they hope that not only will NA players magically get better over the course of a WCS season, but that viewers will keep watching when they don't and all fall out of the competition.

But hey, at least they gave everyone the ability to run off to another WCS region at the end of Season 1. How 'bout that?
Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 10 2013 21:20 GMT
#137
Everything that we talk about the tournament are based on assumption. Let set aside all the suggestions and move on and let the tournament run for 2013, and see if there is any facts to support our suggestions.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 10 2013 21:20 GMT
#138
so confusing that I have no idea wtf is going on with this league tbh.
Jknighty
Profile Joined July 2011
159 Posts
April 10 2013 21:38 GMT
#139
The format is rubbish. The GSL (now WCS KR) is going to have a final 4 playing for a very small amount of money (compared to the past) and they'll already be locked into the regional final for the season. The ro4 and finals, which used to be the high points of the SC2 world, are now going to be an irrelevance almost. And where is the final spot going to come from?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 10 2013 21:40 GMT
#140
On April 11 2013 00:30 Kinky wrote:
This is going to be an interesting year for Starcraft.

Can't wait.
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