EPTTo me it seems like blizzard basically purchased gsl (unsure about how much funding they had put toward it before this point) and wants to somehow make a single, exclusive league of 32 for korea(which seems far too small especially with the kespa players now fully involved) with their own rules. The problem is that it feels like its taking away opportunity for both new korean players and those that aren't currently at the code s level of success. The retroactive qualifier, distribution of prize money, and the points system all seem pretty questionable. Osl and gsl especially are probably the best examples of how sc2 leagues should be run and I can't say I'm pleased so far at how blizzard is having its way with them.
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Averse
United States40 Posts
To me it seems like blizzard basically purchased gsl (unsure about how much funding they had put toward it before this point) and wants to somehow make a single, exclusive league of 32 for korea(which seems far too small especially with the kespa players now fully involved) with their own rules. The problem is that it feels like its taking away opportunity for both new korean players and those that aren't currently at the code s level of success. The retroactive qualifier, distribution of prize money, and the points system all seem pretty questionable. Osl and gsl especially are probably the best examples of how sc2 leagues should be run and I can't say I'm pleased so far at how blizzard is having its way with them. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:42 sAsImre wrote: what's even more amazing it that they tried to copy Riot's model (even in the names lol) while last year was a success imo. except for the shitty race ratios but it wasn't due to the model. I'm also surprised that while copying Riot's model they decided to leave a region lock out of it, or at least force the players to physically be where they're competing. Part of why LCS is so successful imo is the way it copied the old WCS and has NA teams playing NA teams and EU teams playing EU teams. Even if the NA teams can't hold a candle to the Chinese or Korean teams, it's fun to watch and get to know the players who we see every week in studio/media. It lets you root for your region and hope that if they work hard enough they can compete with other regions. I love watching Oz, Jaedong, Ryung, MC, Mvp - but I don't want to see them stomping hapless NA/EU players, I want to see them playing opponents that can actually stand up to them. Similarly I want to see the NA/EU players grow by playing one another and having interesting games and learning. | ||
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HobyHarro
United States30 Posts
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tozi
United States506 Posts
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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t3hmatze
Germany13 Posts
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MythZero
Korea (South)102 Posts
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animagne
United Kingdom47 Posts
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TheSir
1830 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:51 Swords wrote: I love watching Oz, Jaedong, Ryung, MC, Mvp - but I don't want to see them stomping hapless NA/EU players, I want to see them playing opponents that can actually stand up to them. You will in the season finals and grand final, MLG's, IEM's, DH's, NASL and what not On April 11 2013 01:51 Swords wrote: Similarly I want to see the NA/EU players grow by playing one another and having interesting games and learning. Well you can as well, its called the Challenger and Qualifier for NA and for Europe a couple or Koreans doesn't matter. I really dont see what all the fuzz is about. | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:55 mrRoflpwn wrote: All this would be solved if they simply made a residency requirement. Seriously its not fucking hard. Just one new rule would fix most of the problems. From the looks of thinks participation in GSTL/Proleague + NA/EU offline is already a soft-residency requirement. All 8 proleague teams + FXO, Startale, Axiom-Acer, Azubu have matched scheduled during, or very shortly after WCS NA Ro16 lan. | ||
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Sithril
Slovakia169 Posts
How did Gom and OGN agree to this?!! It would be awesome if someone interviewed them :-( | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:59 TheSir wrote: You will in the season finals and grand final, MLG's, IEM's, DH's, NASL and what not Well you can as well, its called the Challenger and Qualifier for NA and for Europe a couple or Koreans doesn't matter. I really dont see what all the fuzz is about. There's also tournaments outside of the WCS that won't contain that many Korean's, or at all. Blizzard not providing enough information for teams and players to make a decision sucks but I feel the whole "OMG, EU AND NA SCENE WILL BE DESTROYED"-posts all over extremely hyperbolic. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:01 Sithril wrote: GSL loosing a big chunk (38%) of its prize pool??? And not being able to add to it their OWN finances?! Is Blizzard trying to undermine Korea or what? How did Gom and OGN agree to this?!! It would be awesome if someone interviewed them :-( But they can arrange tournaments outside the WCS with whatever pricepool they want. This is a good opportunity for more arena's, champion tournaments and whatnot. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:01 Sithril wrote: GSL loosing a big chunk (38%) of its prize pool??? And not being able to add to it their OWN finances?! Is Blizzard trying to undermine Korea or what? How did Gom and OGN agree to this?!! It would be awesome if someone interviewed them :-( Maybe because the SK interest in SC2 does not support the previous amount of tournaments? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:06 nihlon wrote: But they can arrange tournaments outside the WCS with whatever pricepool they want. This is a good opportunity for more arena's, champion tournaments and whatnot. yeah money that'll go to code A players... oh wait | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:01 Sithril wrote: GSL loosing a big chunk (38%) of its prize pool??? And not being able to add to it their OWN finances?! Is Blizzard trying to undermine Korea or what? How did Gom and OGN agree to this?!! It would be awesome if someone interviewed them :-( Nothing is stopping them from running other tournaments. Well, besides possibly their own finances... | ||
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Megiddosc
United States966 Posts
I was excited about WCS 2013 when I first head about it. Now it's just more and more like a nightmare tailspin that will probably do more damage than good when all things are said and done/ | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
" good to know hopefully wont be as top heavy as rumors say | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:07 sAsImre wrote: yeah money that'll go to code A players... oh wait Just dump it into GSTL. Problem solved, money for everyone! | ||
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