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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 56

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:46:44
April 03 2013 02:46 GMT
#1101
On April 03 2013 11:45 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:43 AgentW wrote:
Screw moving, just play with the lag and go to the LANs when you win. Any Korean not in GSL presently should do this if they have the funding to go to the MLG or whatever event is hosting.


So this leaves Koreans on MVP, FXO, ST, Azubu and Axiom that could actually do this. Or maybe NSHS players will try and just forfeit the spot if they get to the lan and just pocket the online prize money.

NSH is part of a school. whole team is studying abroad for the next 2 semesters? :D
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 03 2013 02:46 GMT
#1102
On April 03 2013 11:44 Maghetti wrote:
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet 2m
A: Top five players from each region will play in each seasonal final, +1 more player from the hosting region.

Really? The koreans who are so greatly better than the foreigners and more so have more good players than everywhere else combined only get 5 spots, equal to the much weaker regions? Im all for foreigner only infrastructure but that is pure robbery.


Don't be surprised if the 5 NA representatives will be polt, violet and 3 esf/kespa guys
Terran & Potato Salad.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1103
On April 03 2013 11:42 StarStruck wrote:
One region will still dominate boys. Do the work and if you really want to train move to Korea for a prolonged period of time. I don't see the Koreans practicing outside of Korea will get better. In fact I think they would hurt from not having the same resources as they would with the other guys. It's actually a smart in leveling the playing field by having them compete in other regions lol.

Moving is pretty useless now because you deprive yourself of the biggest opportunity to get money and into the spotlight if you do.

Worst career move ever if you decide to move.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1104
On April 03 2013 11:45 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:43 AgentW wrote:
Screw moving, just play with the lag and go to the LANs when you win. Any Korean not in GSL presently should do this if they have the funding to go to the MLG or whatever event is hosting.


So this leaves Koreans on MVP, FXO, ST, Azubu and Axiom that could actually do this. Or maybe NSHS players will try and just forfeit the spot if they get to the lan and just pocket the online prize money.

They have to be Code B, though. Axiom is all in Code B right now, so that seems viable, and then a bunch of "no name" guys for the other teams. I fear guys like Dream (obviously decently known but I'm thinking more obscure) winning all of the NA stuff.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1105
Dude, if a player is caught cheating online for this, the community will never forgive them. I think the community will be its own watch dog, plus blizz will have extra incentive to scrutinize so much more.
Clan: QQGC - wundertunge#1850
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Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1106
CONFIRMED: VODs are not free!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1107
On April 03 2013 11:46 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:44 Maghetti wrote:
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet 2m
A: Top five players from each region will play in each seasonal final, +1 more player from the hosting region.

Really? The koreans who are so greatly better than the foreigners and more so have more good players than everywhere else combined only get 5 spots, equal to the much weaker regions? Im all for foreigner only infrastructure but that is pure robbery.


Don't be surprised if the 5 NA representatives will be polt, violet and 3 esf/kespa guys


Kespa feels too strict to allow their B-teamers to play in anything online.
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1108
On April 03 2013 11:44 Maghetti wrote:
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet 2m
A: Top five players from each region will play in each seasonal final, +1 more player from the hosting region.

Really? The koreans who are so greatly better than the foreigners and more so have more good players than everywhere else combined only get 5 spots, equal to the much weaker regions? Im all for foreigner only infrastructure but that is pure robbery.


That's just region restriction though, not nationality.

Don't worry if you want more than proportional Korean representation in the Grand Finals. I am sure that at least more than half will be Koreans.

There are just so many Korean players who will play NA/EU.

I imagine most teams will split their team in half or something even if they don't move. to avoid competition.

Let's say Startale. It makes sense for them to split half their team ( the Code S Players) to play KR but for the lesser players ( non Code S, they should just go NA).

This way, they don't compete with each other so they can train more freely and don't hide builds from each other as well as spreading eggs in many basket.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1109
Q: How was the broadcasting rights/fees situation resolved?

Mike Morhaime: All of the partners have received licenses. The exclusivity period has ended.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 03 2013 02:47 GMT
#1110
On April 03 2013 11:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:45 stuchiu wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:43 AgentW wrote:
Screw moving, just play with the lag and go to the LANs when you win. Any Korean not in GSL presently should do this if they have the funding to go to the MLG or whatever event is hosting.


So this leaves Koreans on MVP, FXO, ST, Azubu and Axiom that could actually do this. Or maybe NSHS players will try and just forfeit the spot if they get to the lan and just pocket the online prize money.

NSH is part of a school. whole team is studying abroad for the next 2 semesters? :D

I'll apply for that school if that happens. Time to learn korean.
The Bomber boy
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1111
The benefit for a Korean to play in NA/EU does not outweigh the cons imo.

Yes you might get entry into the season finals which you otherwise would have no chance.
but you don't get a chance at GSL/OSL for a whole year which is really prestigous and has pretty good money.
You get no respect from any fans as you are just (that korean who isn't good enough for korea)
and you get no competitive experience against the best players until the seasonal finals where you get your dick hammered in
R1 by some code S player.
It does have short team benefits but in the long run it makes no sense for someone who wants to make it as a progamer to
play from Korea to outside of Korea
Zerg for Life
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1112
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 1m
In 2014, Blizzard expect a much higher prize pool than the 1.6million$$$$ this year


moar money in 2014 nice! 1 season more, moar money
yo
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1113
On April 03 2013 11:46 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:44 Maghetti wrote:
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet 2m
A: Top five players from each region will play in each seasonal final, +1 more player from the hosting region.

Really? The koreans who are so greatly better than the foreigners and more so have more good players than everywhere else combined only get 5 spots, equal to the much weaker regions? Im all for foreigner only infrastructure but that is pure robbery.


Don't be surprised if the 5 NA representatives will be polt, violet and 3 esf/kespa guys

I presumed viOLet wasn't coming back to the US, with his team in GSTL now. Anyone have any news on this?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1114
On April 03 2013 11:47 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:45 stuchiu wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:43 AgentW wrote:
Screw moving, just play with the lag and go to the LANs when you win. Any Korean not in GSL presently should do this if they have the funding to go to the MLG or whatever event is hosting.


So this leaves Koreans on MVP, FXO, ST, Azubu and Axiom that could actually do this. Or maybe NSHS players will try and just forfeit the spot if they get to the lan and just pocket the online prize money.

They have to be Code B, though. Axiom is all in Code B right now, so that seems viable, and then a bunch of "no name" guys for the other teams. I fear guys like Dream (obviously decently known but I'm thinking more obscure) winning all of the NA stuff.


Like Yugioh.
Moderator
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1115
Only way this is great is if there's a lot more prize money allocated to korea > europe > NA. That'll keep players where they should be, reward them properly, and just make more sense in general.
SooYoung-Noona!
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1116
Ok, if the split for a WCS season finals go 5 from each region for a season, how do you get the fifth player for each split? Obviously the top 4 from a season are good to go, but then how would the fifth player be determined?
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1117
So looking past that OGN and GSL have merged into one big WCS event:

- We have 2 more gsl seasons (this one and 4th quarter 2013)

- and 1 OSL (summer season)

Is that correct?
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 03 2013 02:48 GMT
#1118
On April 03 2013 11:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:46 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:44 Maghetti wrote:
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet 2m
A: Top five players from each region will play in each seasonal final, +1 more player from the hosting region.

Really? The koreans who are so greatly better than the foreigners and more so have more good players than everywhere else combined only get 5 spots, equal to the much weaker regions? Im all for foreigner only infrastructure but that is pure robbery.


Don't be surprised if the 5 NA representatives will be polt, violet and 3 esf/kespa guys


Kespa feels too strict to allow their B-teamers to play in anything online.


My guess is that kespa will have to adapt to online play.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 03 2013 02:49 GMT
#1119
On April 03 2013 11:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:47 AgentW wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:45 stuchiu wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:43 AgentW wrote:
Screw moving, just play with the lag and go to the LANs when you win. Any Korean not in GSL presently should do this if they have the funding to go to the MLG or whatever event is hosting.


So this leaves Koreans on MVP, FXO, ST, Azubu and Axiom that could actually do this. Or maybe NSHS players will try and just forfeit the spot if they get to the lan and just pocket the online prize money.

They have to be Code B, though. Axiom is all in Code B right now, so that seems viable, and then a bunch of "no name" guys for the other teams. I fear guys like Dream (obviously decently known but I'm thinking more obscure) winning all of the NA stuff.


Like Yugioh.

Yugioh to move to Catz's house
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 02:49 GMT
#1120
On April 03 2013 11:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:47 AgentW wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:45 stuchiu wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:43 AgentW wrote:
Screw moving, just play with the lag and go to the LANs when you win. Any Korean not in GSL presently should do this if they have the funding to go to the MLG or whatever event is hosting.


So this leaves Koreans on MVP, FXO, ST, Azubu and Axiom that could actually do this. Or maybe NSHS players will try and just forfeit the spot if they get to the lan and just pocket the online prize money.

They have to be Code B, though. Axiom is all in Code B right now, so that seems viable, and then a bunch of "no name" guys for the other teams. I fear guys like Dream (obviously decently known but I'm thinking more obscure) winning all of the NA stuff.


Like Yugioh.

Exactly. I could see ROOT getting YugiOh and Sage into NA and pooling their funds to send them to MLG etc.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
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