Stephano leaving Korea, giving up his Code S match - Page 11

On March 28 2013 04:05 archonOOid wrote:
If only the other team members were more inclusive perhaps the Koreans should brush up their English skills. I think you should treat players differently in a team and perhaps have a laxed schedule for someone like stephano.

On March 28 2013 03:31 Incomplet wrote:
Good decision. Some people just aren't good enough for Code S.
White flag + pants down duly noted.

On March 28 2013 04:28 zanga wrote:
I know this is not about Naniwa - but I just want to say that at least he dares to lose in public, and then work hard to fight back to stand tall again. That is true spirit.

On March 28 2013 03:15 Plansix wrote:


The Red Sox didn’t win a world series for 86 years, it was called the Curse of the Bambino and it was a huge part of the lore of the city of Boston for years. They are a good baseball team, but not the second best for raw numbers(hopefully my father won’t read this). And I am talking about America sports, I don’t follow soccer at all, but I am sure that some clubs have a good number of titles. I don’t know about these “comical affirmative action rules” are, unless you are talking about salary caps for teams.

But this is what you get for calling me a fan boy and mindlessly cheering for Stephano.

On March 28 2013 04:43 Irre wrote:
I wonder if EG will renew his contract. You might say, " ARE YOU CRAZY HES THE BEST FOREIGNER!" and while this is true, I am not sure he is making EG very happy right now. Hes not much of a promoter the way the rest of the teams foreign players are. He is not cooperating with the top priorities of EGs A Team- wont play in GSL and Proleague. He has personality and skill, but without playing in those leagues, is he really offering EG enough to warrant the 100k a year investment? I would say no, and given the past behavioral issues and the efforts made to accomodate him without the return of practice, participation or promotion, I would actually be surprised if his contract is renewed next time around.

On March 28 2013 03:41 StarStruck wrote:


It's next to impossible with stupid salary caps but they do this to keep all the teams competitive and level the playing field. There are consequences when you expand your league to the point the player pool just isn't the same, or expand to areas that aren't necessarily viable or market proven or how about lockouts between ownership and the players? The '94 lockout destroyed the Blue Jays in terms of attendance, mystique and losing core players. This doesn't even address the process of losing and what it does to your fan's morale to show up. Salary caps are a bitch and the game changes to maintaining your core and finding players for the supporting roles. Dynasties are a thing of the past.

It's fun to talk about such things but when we're talking about RTS gaming especially over here? I find it somewhat irrelevant because it's mostly based on individual achievements. In Korea, sure there's more emphasis on the Team Leagues but player's have said all the time they want that individual sense of accomplishment as well. Not only that, but the onus is truly on the players for them to be successful. They have a lot of responsibility. In the past we've seen certain players dominate the scene for small to lengthy periods of time whether it be Brood War, Warcraft 3 or SC2. It does happen. Regardless of the format like our Western Gauntlet Lans or long dragged out processes like your OSLs/GSLs/team leagues. Time and time again the Koreans have shown they can shine in both. Ofc it's only a weekend in a foreign place to them when they show up here and do there thing. It's like a holiday; whereas, if you want to compete in the GSL/OSL shindigs you're basically relocating. It's much easier to take a holiday compared to relocating. It's much easier on them. I'd like to see the correlation between Koreans joining/moving elsewhere and still finding some success. Polt will be fun to watch out for now that he's in Texas and found some success but I'm not sure when he finally moved back to Korea or how long he stayed inside the U.S.

On March 28 2013 04:20 dUTtrOACh wrote:


The inverse could be argued much more easily.

It's actually easier for an individual to make compromises than an entire team. Stephano obviously lacks the character traits that make someone a successful pro-gamer under the Korean formula. The Korean formula is also proven to work, so this isn't really a matter of "I think the way I train is better".

When you go to a place it is not the responsibility of the people who live there to make a bunch of compromises for you and allow you to call the shots. That's called entitlement, and people don't like having to pamper someone whose sense of entitlement is that high. It's also a waste of time and money. Airplane tickets aren't free and neither is accommodation for a lengthy stay. A coach doesn't volunteer his time at the whim of the trainee, nor does a coach have to treat everybody differently if his coaching style works. It's not like the guy has brain damage or something that warrants a more relaxed schedule, he's just lazy and ungrateful.

This guy has honestly wasted so many people's time it's disgusting and I'm amazed at the patience that everybody extends to him, especially his fans. How can anybody support someone who throws away opportunities as much as Stephano?

On March 28 2013 02:52 Plansix wrote:

Real sports are no more consistent than Esports. Winning 5 super bowls in a row is unheard of, or 5 masters or any number of World Series. The Yankees are known for winning 26 world series in the life of the ball club, which dates back nearly 100 years. They are the only club with that many titles in all of professional sports. The only reason teams seem consistent in real sports is because their seasons take a full year. And people who cheer for a team one year, only to leave them when they lose next year.

Once again, you can cheer for the top player if you want, but don’t go out of your way to mock the people who are fans the guys who lost or are doing poorly.