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gronnelg
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway354 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 08:00:05
March 27 2013 07:52 GMT
#61
This is sort of like the paralympics. You think "Oh these guys are disabled, but I bet they can be pretty good at their stuff!".
And then it turns out that, not only are they good, but they're true athletes, that despite their disabilities are LEAGUES ahead of what you can even hope to achieve.

Inspiring. Well played sir, well played.

Edit: Typos.
Lulzez || My stream: http://www.twitch.tv/gronnelg
wardou
Profile Joined October 2010
France54 Posts
March 27 2013 07:56 GMT
#62
Playing sc2 wih a Xbox controler, are u f*cking kidding me ?!
HuK for the win.
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
March 27 2013 07:57 GMT
#63
I can see it. People have won GSL championships off of proxy barracks, which is doable with a game pad.
BwCBlueBox.837
MidgetHumper
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 09:11:58
March 27 2013 09:11 GMT
#64
On March 27 2013 16:52 gronnelg wrote:
This is sort of like the paralympics. You think "Oh these guys are disabled, but I bet they can be pretty good at their stuff!".
And then it turns out that, not only are they good, but they're true athletes, that despite their disabilities are LEAGUES ahead of what you can even hope to achieve.

Inspiring. Well played sir, well played.

Edit: Typos.


This isn't really similar unless someone chops off some limbs to be eligible for said Paralympics.. ^_^
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284255#1
recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
March 27 2013 09:19 GMT
#65
On March 27 2013 16:00 Type|NarutO wrote:
Hahaha, holy shit man :D! That really is impressive, I can't even play shooters with that damn controller! Great job right there, doesn't even matter if you 'only' make masters (mid-high) , its already impressive. Next challenge 'I owned you with a steering wheel, you mofo!' :D


new challenge, get masters with mario kart steering wheel with the accelerator and brakes only. LOL
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 27 2013 10:34 GMT
#66
On March 27 2013 16:52 gronnelg wrote:
This is sort of like the paralympics. You think "Oh these guys are disabled, but I bet they can be pretty good at their stuff!".
And then it turns out that, not only are they good, but they're true athletes, that despite their disabilities are LEAGUES ahead of what you can even hope to achieve.

Inspiring. Well played sir, well played.

Edit: Typos.


You mean like Cartman participating in some sort of paralympics for the prize money, pretending to be mentally disabled, only to finish last place and get the consolation prize?

Anyways, I still can't believe somebody is this much better than me with an xbox controller... o.o
Good job, gl hf.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 27 2013 11:00 GMT
#67
On March 27 2013 09:09 dr.fahrenheit wrote:
I like the comments along the lines of "it's impossible to make it to gm with a 360 pad" "it wont happen" "impressive, but you wont make it"... all those comments made with the certainty and the firm conviction of narrow mindedness that is found through the history of mankind and perfectly align with statments like "the world is flat, and if you continue to sail west you will fall of the earth"...
don't get discouraged by all the very smart and successful sc2 players here (who have made it into plat several seasons in a row!!) and keep working on it!


Humans have known the world is round for 2000 years, films have overplayed on the idea that the world is flat just like many other things.
What people are doing in the thread is posting their thoughts, this is a forum and its for discussion, not everyone needs your opinion.

Best of luck OP, hope you make it!
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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
March 27 2013 11:04 GMT
#68
Oh my god, I support your projet a hundred percent mate, great work !
I got five reasons for you to shut up
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
March 27 2013 13:20 GMT
#69
I hope you do it! GM might be really hard just because of the sheer difficulty of getting GM and it's going to get harder now with cross server play. Not saying it's impossible, but I do think you get definitely get GM level MMR,etc quite easily with a bit of work. If you watch people like Goody or Elfi it looks like they are using an Xbox 360 controller to play so I don't see what would stop you. Don't you find forcefields hard?

Good luck.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
March 27 2013 13:44 GMT
#70
On March 27 2013 18:19 recklessfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 16:00 Type|NarutO wrote:
Hahaha, holy shit man :D! That really is impressive, I can't even play shooters with that damn controller! Great job right there, doesn't even matter if you 'only' make masters (mid-high) , its already impressive. Next challenge 'I owned you with a steering wheel, you mofo!' :D


new challenge, get masters with mario kart steering wheel with the accelerator and brakes only. LOL


rofl! Hell, I'd pay money to see someone get into silver with a Wii-mote
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dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 14:34:57
March 27 2013 14:34 GMT
#71
I think it's very doable with protoss or zerg, good luck!!
hku
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
169 Posts
March 27 2013 14:44 GMT
#72
Don't listen to all the haters. I am (newly) GM on SEA and I watched your stream for a bit. You're apm is unbelievably high for a controller and more over startlingly precise.

I have a ~130 apm, and I got to GM with only creative strats. Don't let the haters get to you (you could probably kick 90% of these jerks with Terran). Do what you want and own those noobs.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 14:49:59
March 27 2013 14:47 GMT
#73
At first glance it looks like the controller would put limitations on him, which means he would hit a wall eventually.
If you think about it though, he has basically access to two mouse controllers, the two analogs.
He can use one of them to navigate the camera, and the other to navigate the mouse.
You cant do that with keyboard + mouse except if you bind the arrow keys to the left side of the keyboard, which no one does.
Even if you do bind the arrow keys to the left side, you only have so many fingers available, while the OP can use just the thumbs to navigate both mouses, and then has 8 fingers left for buttons, while a keyboard + mouse player has only access to 5 fingers on the left hand.
With enough practice, he could potentially become better than even someone that uses keyboard + mouse.
The amount of practice required is much, MUCH higher though, so kudos to him that he is already at masters level.

I believe he can reach grandmaster rather easily if he keeps practicing and refining his mechanics.
The mechanics on the controller are much harder to perfect than the mechanics on keyboard + mouse, but the ceiling is higher imo, so if he keeps practicing he should be able to get grandmaster just fine.

Continue playing dude, you are awesome.
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
March 27 2013 14:48 GMT
#74
Does anyone not consider that the controller probably has some distinct advantages, such as mouse precision and easy hotkeys?
SC2 Mapmaker
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 27 2013 14:58 GMT
#75
I'll send you $20 via PayPal if you reach GM. Because I don't think it's possible.
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
March 27 2013 15:04 GMT
#76
I believe you can do it. Hell, there are players like Goody,Elfi,Delphi in GM. They have worse APM than many people here, nevertheless they get their macro going and do everything that needs to be done. You can do it, too


And congratz, really immense achievement already, Cress for next MLG owning fools with his controller
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 27 2013 15:11 GMT
#77
On March 27 2013 23:48 lorestarcraft wrote:
Does anyone not consider that the controller probably has some distinct advantages, such as mouse precision and easy hotkeys?


it also has some distinct disadvantages such as lack of buttons. How do you keep 7-8 control groups of units and buildings on a controller? you don't because it probably only has 8 buttons, all of which have to be bound to other things like the unit/building command card or using spells. There are always two sides to a story. Plus lets be honest here, no matter how good you got with a controller, there will always be people who plays with keyboard and mouse who stomp you because you are limited in ways they are not.

It's impressive that hes made it to master, I can't even do that with a mouse and keyboard but then perhaps it says more about the design of Protoss and their 1a deathball potential than his skill with a pad. I certainly couldn't imagine him having the same success with Terran or Zerg, you need too many hotkeys and control groups to play effectively with a pad.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
misspoo
Profile Joined December 2012
France63 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 15:19:11
March 27 2013 15:17 GMT
#78
I'm sorry, you did a good job to reach your level but you will never be GM with a game pad ... You will be stop by micro and multitask at a higher level. They only reason why GMs would play against you will be to see your limits in term of what a said before.
hku
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 15:26:40
March 27 2013 15:23 GMT
#79
I just can't believe everyone is dying to express their close-mindedness.

Sure a controller is different. Sure the keyboard/mouse is the established setup. Yes the best players right now use keyboard/mouse.

What offends me is that the people here seem to believe that the only way to be good at Starcraft is to perfectly mimic Stephano or MC or MVP.

Starcraft's beauty comes from it's intricacies and how a person's personality shines through their play.

This man comes along, clearly massively talented (honestly, how many of you thought getting to masters with a controller was impossible before this thread?), and all anybody has to say is that it is impossible.

Don't you guys see that having different people playing differently is how the community, the strategic base, the knowledge of the game evolves?

Stop being a pile of giant pricks.

Just as a reminder to anyone that didn't read my previous post, I am newly GM on SEA.
gkts
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany56 Posts
March 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#80
Seeing your games im really interested if you could get to master in EU or even KR...
Nice idea though!
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