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On March 27 2013 10:21 Let it Raine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 10:14 jinorazi wrote:On March 27 2013 09:55 Iwik wrote:On March 27 2013 09:42 jinorazi wrote:
not the derail too much but i think it kinda speaks for the game itself.
at first i thought this was impossible because i'm thinking of stuff like muta micro, accurate clicks like goon control vs spider mines, load/unload micro, marine splitting and dodging would cap the player, then further thinking such intensive micro is most focused on terran and micro prowess of bw is almost all gone in sc2.
i think you're doing great stuff being unique and able to do things not many can do at a higher level than most, but at the same time to think sc2 has become a game that can be played with a controller (in master) disappoints me. This is an insult to virtually every sc2 player; please think this through. How can you even look at the mechanics of top-level players and imply that sc2 has become a game that requires less skill? All this means is that someone can reach masters league with more of an emphasis on macro. No offense to op, but I seriously doubt that he would be able to win at the highest level of play with a controller. Don't pass judgement on an entire race/game because of the method of play of one guy...wtf. i dont see how its an insult... o.O you see sc2 as a lesser game because one man, with years of practice, is able to beat mid masters players on NA with a controller. Everything about that is completely ridiculous. anyways awesome job with the controller sir, I played some fps's with the 360 controller because I love it after playing halo for a decade, couldn/t imagine playing sc2 with it though. kudos.
you're misinterpreting my words or you're putting words in my mouth.
i was merely pointing out that sc2 does not focus on micro (and more on unit composition, build, w/e). and i'm almost certain controller doesn't work too well with wide range of playstyles or situations like bane vs bane or marine vs bane, things that needs quick and accurate micro but i'd love to be proven wrong since i say this without any experience playing sc with a controller, i'm only imagining it. i'm not discrediting OP, rather downplay sc2 if anything.
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On March 27 2013 09:15 selboN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 09:08 408xParadox wrote:
Im less impressed by you making it to masters than saddened by the masters i have seen on your stream and how bad they look. I'm sure he has the system rigged to only play "really bad masters". People are way too critical of players when they're watching. Chances are you just don't realize how bad you are while you're playing. On topic, very impressive play, especially considering it's with a 360 controller. Might consider increasing your scroll speed though, seems to be a bottleneck in your play.
No as a high diamond zerg i realize I am god awful at this game. But when a zerg is on three base at the 18 minute mark, with no corrupters after having scouted triple stargate and a fleet beacon over six in game minutes before it saddens me. The same can also be said for cress though. He just sat on three base for 18 minutes with no scouting and amoved across the map. Had the zerg actually known how to play (doubting the zerg was master at all) this would have been an auto loss.
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220 apm (I assume you mean sc2gears apm and not fake blizz apm) is quite impressive lol. Prob around what I have if not slightly more... would be glad to play you sometime 
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cress, you have been constantly proving people wrong and setting new bars.
I would not be surprised at all if you hit GM. GLHF
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One day, I want to see you go pro. I want to see you in that MLG or GSL booth, connecting your controller to the computer, and then proceeding to woop some butt. And then I want to see you do a ceremony with your controller.
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That's a pretty bad ass goal.
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On March 27 2013 12:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
One day, I want to see you go pro. I want to see you in that MLG or GSL booth, connecting your controller to the computer, and then proceeding to woop some butt. And then I want to see you do a ceremony with your controller.
While I don't think that'll ever happen that would be the most hilarious thing to see a player with a controller do that lmao 
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On March 27 2013 12:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
One day, I want to see you go pro. I want to see you in that MLG or GSL booth, connecting your controller to the computer, and then proceeding to woop some butt. And then I want to see you do a ceremony with your controller.
Dude if this guy wins any games in a booth with his feet all kicked up on the table, hes going to have a 500 page fan club.
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On March 27 2013 08:45 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 08:31 eNtitY~ wrote:
Grandmasters is infinitely harder to get than Masters, it's not possible and won't happen. thats a stupid thing to say and a bad mentality.
but sadly true, the mechanis on GM are like the 100* of mid masters
i am mid-high masters myself and from GM there are ages away 
but amazing you did master with it ^^ but now everyone shit on protoss again ;(
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Hahaha, holy shit man :D! That really is impressive, I can't even play shooters with that damn controller! Great job right there, doesn't even matter if you 'only' make masters (mid-high) , its already impressive. Next challenge 'I owned you with a steering wheel, you mofo!' :D
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took a look at your stream, gotta say I'm extremely impressed
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Really cool! Would be awesome to see a series "quest to GM" or "how I got to GM using 360controller" during or after you have gotten there
Good luck, you'll need it, but I think it's possible!
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On March 27 2013 10:40 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 10:24 Antimatterz wrote:On March 27 2013 08:31 eNtitY~ wrote:
Grandmasters is infinitely harder to get than Masters, it's not possible and won't happen. Would you have said that it would be possible to reach masters with just an Xbox controller? I dont want to rain on the OP's parade and I think his journey has revealed alot about the potential of the controller. But I think the difference between Masters and GM is night and day. I mean can you micro 2x drops+ army and also keep up with immaculate macro? Surely all the little "micro tricks" that are pretty much essential at the top level of play are nigh on impossible with a pad no? You can win at masters simply by being better and smarter than the average NA masters.. But when you take that step up to High Masters(like 1300+) and into GM, you are talking guys who are generally very smart with very strong skillsets to complement this. I won't say don't try as you should try, I won't say you cant as I don't believe in the word, but I would say its highly unlikely. Saying that, I am a mid-masters Terran and would be more than happy to practice with you. Add me Gangstarr 380. Would love to play with you simply to find out whether GM is actually possible. I'll be the first to admit I'd love to be proved wrong! Also I think what you've done should be a sign to Blizzard to port this game to 360/ps3. Most players will suck at it and not have the 2 years of patience like you did, but I can't see the harm in it since it is clearly physically possible. It will bring more exposure to the game and I'm sure some people will like the game but not like the controller and thus buy the PC version! Edit: I thought I would throw in. I could easily believe you could take a game off a GM if you practiced enough. The difficulty would be in getting good enough to not only be within the MMR range of these guys but to be in the Top200. I mean it's a tough road for most of us on M&K.
I think the biggest obstacle he faces ahead of him is the amount of multitasking required to consistently beat high masters + GM players. He seems to have a lot of trouble moving the camera quickly from base position x to position y and thats goanna hurt him a lot against players who are good at abusing that.
I think the only way he can get to GM within 1 year or someting like that would be to play an insanely abusive deathballoriented style, and try to minimize the amount of multitasking required by overinvesting in static structures while playing very defensively.
From watching his games protoss definitely seems to fit very well, though I believe that ultra turtle mech could work as well (I saw him play one game with bio and that was tbh terrible).
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Maybe you should just buy a keyboard and a mouse and EZ mode to a MLG championship, hahahaha.
Seriously though if you are that good at, I wonder how high you could get with a mouse (Did you ever try?)?
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On March 27 2013 08:31 eNtitY~ wrote:
Grandmasters is infinitely harder to get than Masters, it's not possible and won't happen.
If a guy with no hands can get GM, I think Cress has a good chance
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Give it your best shot man With enough time and dedication, you might make it!
Sending you my energy Genkidama style!
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That's impressive Cress, but I don't think you can win GSL with this.
Good luck man! This is great stuff.
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Wow!
Very impressive!
Congrats and good luck!
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On March 27 2013 16:30 nomyx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 08:31 eNtitY~ wrote:
Grandmasters is infinitely harder to get than Masters, it's not possible and won't happen. If a guy with no hands can get GM, I think Cress has a good chance
what guy with no hands got gm?
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