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Reaching Grand Masters with the xbox360 controller - Page 2
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ObeseHydra
Brazil196 Posts
Hope you reach your goal! =) | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
at first i thought this was impossible because i'm thinking of stuff like muta micro, accurate clicks like goon control vs spider mines, load/unload micro, marine splitting and dodging would cap the player, then further thinking such intensive micro is most focused on terran and micro prowess of bw is almost all gone in sc2. i think you're doing great stuff being unique and able to do things not many can do at a higher level than most, but at the same time to think sc2 has become a game that can be played with a controller (in master) disappoints me. | ||
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Iwik
57 Posts
btw i totally feel you on that ladder fear | ||
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sur_reaL
Canada278 Posts
Maybe this will allow rts games to be more prevalent on the consoles If only I could play as good using keyboard and mouse haha | ||
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Shikada
Serbia976 Posts
On March 27 2013 09:42 jinorazi wrote: not the derail too much but i think it kinda speaks for the game itself. at first i thought this was impossible because i'm thinking of stuff like muta micro, accurate clicks like goon control vs spider mines, load/unload micro, marine splitting and dodging would cap the player, then further thinking such intensive micro is most focused on terran and micro prowess of bw is almost all gone in sc2. i think you're doing great stuff being unique and able to do things not many can do at a higher level than most, but at the same time to think sc2 has become a game that can be played with a controller (in master) disappoints me. This sums up my thoughts about all this perfectly. Still, I saw Cress stream and it was awesome. You did something new and optimized it to a very respectable degree. | ||
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
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Iwik
57 Posts
On March 27 2013 09:42 jinorazi wrote: not the derail too much but i think it kinda speaks for the game itself. at first i thought this was impossible because i'm thinking of stuff like muta micro, accurate clicks like goon control vs spider mines, load/unload micro, marine splitting and dodging would cap the player, then further thinking such intensive micro is most focused on terran and micro prowess of bw is almost all gone in sc2. i think you're doing great stuff being unique and able to do things not many can do at a higher level than most, but at the same time to think sc2 has become a game that can be played with a controller (in master) disappoints me. This is an insult to virtually every sc2 player; please think this through. How can you even look at the mechanics of top-level players and imply that sc2 has become a game that requires less skill? All this means is that someone can reach masters league with more of an emphasis on macro. No offense to op, but I seriously doubt that he would be able to win at the highest level of play with a controller. Don't pass judgement on an entire race/game because of the method of play of one guy...wtf. | ||
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rza
Canada384 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On March 27 2013 09:55 Iwik wrote: This is an insult to virtually every sc2 player; please think this through. How can you even look at the mechanics of top-level players and imply that sc2 has become a game that requires less skill? All this means is that someone can reach masters league with more of an emphasis on macro. No offense to op, but I seriously doubt that he would be able to win at the highest level of play with a controller. Don't pass judgement on an entire race/game because of the method of play of one guy...wtf. it's a fact that sc2 requires less mechanical skill, micro makes less of a difference because things like improved pathfinding put everyone on a much more even footing, macro is easier because MBS, etc. no one ever claims that sc2 requires more mechanics than bw. that just means "skill" in sc2 is measured differently, ie how well can you choose builds that counter your opponents | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
You really, really like your pylons XD Hm, I think you should scout more, though. You kind of blindly macroed up. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On March 27 2013 09:55 Iwik wrote: This is an insult to virtually every sc2 player; please think this through. How can you even look at the mechanics of top-level players and imply that sc2 has become a game that requires less skill? All this means is that someone can reach masters league with more of an emphasis on macro. No offense to op, but I seriously doubt that he would be able to win at the highest level of play with a controller. Don't pass judgement on an entire race/game because of the method of play of one guy...wtf. i dont see how its an insult... o.O | ||
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13JackaL
United States577 Posts
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
you see sc2 as a lesser game because one man, with years of practice, is able to beat mid masters players on NA with a controller. Everything about that is completely ridiculous. anyways awesome job with the controller sir, I played some fps's with the 360 controller because I love it after playing halo for a decade, couldn/t imagine playing sc2 with it though. kudos. | ||
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
On March 27 2013 08:31 eNtitY~ wrote: Grandmasters is infinitely harder to get than Masters, it's not possible and won't happen. Would you have said that it would be possible to reach masters with just an Xbox controller? | ||
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niladorus
Greece116 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10671 Posts
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
GL dude. Listen to some of these disbelievers. Listen to them but don't take in any of it! Go for it | ||
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GaNgStaRR.ElV
Canada535 Posts
On March 27 2013 10:24 Antimatterz wrote: Would you have said that it would be possible to reach masters with just an Xbox controller? I dont want to rain on the OP's parade and I think his journey has revealed alot about the potential of the controller. But I think the difference between Masters and GM is night and day. I mean can you micro 2x drops+ army and also keep up with immaculate macro? Surely all the little "micro tricks" that are pretty much essential at the top level of play are nigh on impossible with a pad no? You can win at masters simply by being better and smarter than the average NA masters.. But when you take that step up to High Masters(like 1300+) and into GM, you are talking guys who are generally very smart with very strong skillsets to complement this. I won't say don't try as you should try, I won't say you cant as I don't believe in the word, but I would say its highly unlikely. Saying that, I am a mid-masters Terran and would be more than happy to practice with you. Add me Gangstarr 380. Would love to play with you simply to find out whether GM is actually possible. I'll be the first to admit I'd love to be proved wrong! Also I think what you've done should be a sign to Blizzard to port this game to 360/ps3. Most players will suck at it and not have the 2 years of patience like you did, but I can't see the harm in it since it is clearly physically possible. It will bring more exposure to the game and I'm sure some people will like the game but not like the controller and thus buy the PC version! Edit: I thought I would throw in. I could easily believe you could take a game off a GM if you practiced enough. The difficulty would be in getting good enough to not only be within the MMR range of these guys but to be in the Top200. I mean it's a tough road for most of us on M&K. | ||
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